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The power of a monster is determined primarily by its type. No matter how much you spend on a humanoid they'll still die easily and won't do much damage, while other types are very powerful at low levels.

Kennel Vampiress is only level 146 and Revenant Druag is only 150, yet both of them cause me far more trouble than Eila who is level 428. I dread to think what would happen if the owners of Kennel Vampiress and Revenant Druag spent some serious crystals on upgrading them. They'd be invincible.

Personally I think all types of monsters should have the same initial attributes to make them more balanced. As things stand some types are overpowered while others are useless.

This post has been edited by Frith: May 6 2011, 14:21

Just wondering are we ever going to get anything at all from our monster kills in future updates?

The power of a monster is determined primarily by its type. No matter how much you spend on a humanoid they'll still die easily and won't do much damage, while other types are very powerful at low levels.

Kennel Vampiress is only level 146 and Revenant Druag is only 150, yet both of them cause me far more trouble than Eila who is level 428. I dread to think what would happen if the owners of Kennel Vampiress and Revenant Druag spent some serious crystals on upgrading them. They'd be invincible.

They're stronger already because of high attack/barrier ratings (probably), and they have 75% elec resistance, but if use fire instead, they'll die easily, and so long "been powerful"...

Just wondering are we ever going to get anything at all from our monster kills in future updates?

Don't think so, everyone would make a cheap army of giants.

This post has been edited by cmdct: May 6 2011, 16:12

Don't think so, everyone would make a cheap army of giants.

Then im wondering why everyone is just making those monsters stronger and making grinding alot harder for yourself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

ppl just like to see other suffer dont they (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Then im wondering why everyone is just making those monsters stronger and making grinding alot harder for yourself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

High level humanoids are actually making grinding much easier because they die easily but give big Exp bonuses. A round with Eila (4.28x Exp bonus) and Liselotte (3.48x Exp bonus) is worth about double what a round with regular monsters is worth, even though it generally takes about the same number of attacks to clear.

Then im wondering why everyone is just making those monsters stronger and making grinding alot harder for yourself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

ppl just like to see other suffer dont they (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well in my case, it's just for fun. I like to see my own monsters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Kennel Vampiress is only level 146 and Revenant Druag is only 150, yet both of them cause me far more trouble than Eila who is level 428.

Eila doesn't cause me any trouble now, mainly due to the fact that I no longer encounter her. I wonder if it's possible to make a monster that's so powerful, no one will ever see it...

Eila doesn't cause me any trouble now, mainly due to the fact that I no longer encounter her. I wonder if it's possible to make a monster that's so powerful, no one will ever see it...

Um....Let's have some calculation.
1. Set a level that nobody has reached yet (lv.350)
2. Calculate the limit PL level for this level (350^1.2 - 151 = 978, rounded off to 1000)
3. Calculate how we can reach that power level (1000)
Summation from 3 to 46 should give 1078, so it means we need a monster which has raised 43 times of its primary status.

Conclusion: Should be possible given enough crystals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Edit: How high can a monster's PL possibly be?

Tenboro has said that the maximum amount of primary status is 25, so it will go to 150 total status point.
Among the custom monsters now the one with lowest basic primary status total is undead with 34 total status point.
So there's another 116 points to add.
So we add up 3 to 119 to give 7137.
Probably we should add another 200 for those ER.
So the total should be about 7337.
Translate it back to character level should give about 1664.
So if we have enough crystals to make a monster, we can possibly make one that can only be faced at level 1664.

Okay, i am really in insomnia right now. Boring enough to calculate this.


This post has been edited by varst: May 7 2011, 22:11

Eila doesn't cause me any trouble now, mainly due to the fact that I no longer encounter her. I wonder if it's possible to make a monster that's so powerful, no one will ever see it...

I think the highest level player is 320, which means the monster would have to be above level 863 for nobody to encounter it. The crystal cost of upgrades gets pretty brutal at high levels so I doubt anyone will make a monster of that level for some time (if ever), by which time the highest level player will have increased further.


Edit: I must have started typing when Varst posted. Just to add that Eila's current primary attribute upgrades cost 9400 crystals for a 9 level increase. The price seems to be doubling so I suspect a 10 level increase will cost over 18000 and an 11 level increase will cost 32000. The crystals required to reach level 1000 would therefore be astronomical.

This post has been edited by Frith: May 7 2011, 22:01

The power of a monster is determined primarily by its type. No matter how much you spend on a humanoid they'll still die easily and won't do much damage, while other types are very powerful at low levels.

Humanoids can have 50% resistance to everything but dark. They can become a huge pain in the ass once you can make them a Boss or Mini Boss.

Just to add that Eila's current primary attribute upgrades cost 9400 crystals for a 9 level increase. The price seems to be doubling so I suspect a 10 level increase will cost over 18000 and an 11 level increase will cost 32000. The crystals required to reach level 1000 would therefore be astronomical.

I don't have data on crystals required for each level increase.
Otherwise i will be bored enough to calculate the amount of crystals required and the amount of credits to spend on. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Humanoids can have 50% resistance to everything but dark. They can become a huge pain in the ass once you can make them a Boss or Mini Boss.

Don't forget they will have weapons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Don't forget they will have weapons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I don`t think you can give them weapons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

*brb looking for a Slaughter Scythe*

I don`t think you can give them weapons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

*brb looking for a Slaughter Scythe*

What? But in the description it said they will have weapons or something in future upgrades, I WANT MY CRYSTALS BACK!.. not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It would certainly make things interesting if we could equip our monsters. A few pieces of Fire-eater and Thrice-blessed gear would be just what my Undead needs...

BTW, the power level isn't based on the total number of points in all stats. The first point put into each stat increases it by 3, the second by 4 and so on.

I run into Ichy's customed mobs pretty regularly. It was not that overpowerful at this moment, but it always caught my attention because of its owner's level. I will try to get rid of that monster as fast as I can.

It would certainly make things interesting if we could equip our monsters. A few pieces of Fire-eater and Thrice-blessed gear would be just what my Undead needs...

BTW, the power level isn't based on the total number of points in all stats. The first point put into each stat increases it by 3, the second by 4 and so on.

Yea then obviously i have some mis-calculation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Sorry about that

Assuming ER boosts are always flat 1 rather than ramping like stats. . .

Max Power Level
Arthropod 1690
Avion 1630
Beast 1674
Celestial 1578
Daimon 1574
Dragonkin 1668
Elemental 1633
Giant 1719
Humanoid 1581
Mechanoid 1600
Reptilian 1663
Sprite 1704
Undead 1592

The Giant would only meet characters of level 533 and up.

This post has been edited by PK678353: May 8 2011, 19:15

Yeah,those mosters which power level is 100+ are strong...almost strong as boss...

This post has been edited by pantyhosemaina: May 9 2011, 09:40

Some are actually stronger. Physically, anyway.