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Feb 4 2011, 04:05
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grumpymal
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Here's what you do. Click on the links and post your level, what the actual value is, and what it scales down to at your level. M1S2S3I suspect that Banshee probably doesn't scale down since it leeches so little, but the other two probably have the same factor. This post has been edited by cmal: Mar 14 2011, 23:19
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Feb 4 2011, 04:28
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skillchip
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I found 35.5 gets me closer, but 40 works out well.
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Feb 4 2011, 04:43
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marcho
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should that be your_level / actual_level?
or am i misinterpreting the meaning?
ie. i have a lvl 262 staff with a wonderfully whole numbered 10 int bonus. so 10 * (158 + 40) / (262 +40) gets me 6.556, and the true scaled value on the popup is 6.51
This post has been edited by marcho: Feb 4 2011, 04:45
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Feb 4 2011, 05:44
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(marcho @ Feb 3 2011, 21:43)  should that be your_level / actual_level?
or am i misinterpreting the meaning? ie. i have a lvl 262 staff with a wonderfully whole numbered 10 int bonus. so 10 * (158 + 40) / (262 +40) gets me 6.556, and the true scaled value on the popup is 6.51
I'll double check with my notes. I'll change it to make it clearer. This post has been edited by cmal: Feb 4 2011, 05:47
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Feb 4 2011, 06:26
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dkplee
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Currently level 84 1) level 286 scytheStrength: 16.21 * (84 + 40) / (286 + 40) = 6.1658 (Actual scaled value: 6.03) Dexterity: 2.70 * (84 + 40) / (286 + 40) = 1.0270 (1.01) 2) level 206 estocStrength: 3.38 * (84 + 40) / (206 + 40) = 1.7037 (1.68) Dexterity: 2.03 * (84 + 40) / (206 + 40) = 1.0233 (1.01) 3) level 202 estoc Dexterity: 10.65 * (84 + 40) / (202 + 40) = 5.4570 (5.36) Agility: 5.32 * (84 + 40) / (202 + 40) = 2.7260 (2.68) 4) level 266 scytheStrength: 7.60 * (84 + 40) / (266 + 40) = 3.0797 (3.02) Dexterity: 1.69 * (84 + 40) / (266 + 40) = 0.6848 (0.67) 5) level 141 pantsDexterity: 6.93 * (84 + 40) / (141 + 40) = 4.7476 (4.69) Agility: 2.47 * (84 + 40) / (141 + 40) = 1.6922 (1.68) Enough for now? Or at least until more people post I guess?
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Feb 4 2011, 07:12
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grumpymal
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The more data I have from a wider level range, the better. So far, it looks like the factor is more accurate in the 35-37 range at lower levels.
If this doesn't work out, then we'll have to figure out a new formula for scaling that takes into account both scaling factors rather than the single simplified factor.
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Feb 4 2011, 07:36
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MisterLemon
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My level: 41
Lv. 116 Fine Redwood Staff of Focus Max Wisdom Bonus = 2.12 Actual Wisdom Bonus = 1.07 Max Intelligence Bonus = 1.27 Actual Intelligence Bonus = 0.64 Projected Wisdom Bonus = 2.12*(41 + 40)/(116 + 40) = 2.12*81/156 = 1.10 (Error of -0.03) Projected Intelligence Bonus = 1.27*(41 + 40)/(116 + 40) = 1.27*81/156 = 0.66 (Error of -0.02)
Lv. 104 Fine Cotton Robe of Warding Max Dexterity Bonus = 2.35 Actual Dexterity Bonus = 1.29 Max Agility Bonus = 2.35 Actual Agility Bonus = 1.29 Projected Bonus For Both = 2.35*(41 + 40)/(104 + 40) = 2.12*81/144 = 1.32 (Error of -0.03)
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Feb 4 2011, 14:43
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(cmal @ Feb 4 2011, 05:12)  The more data I have from a wider level range, the better. So far, it looks like the factor is more accurate in the 35-37 range at lower levels.
If this doesn't work out, then we'll have to figure out a new formula for scaling that takes into account both scaling factors rather than the single simplified factor.
It's 36, at least I don't get a error bigger than 0.01 in the dkplee's scythes, plus I recalculated his data and it seems to fit as well.
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Feb 4 2011, 20:12
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WoopsE
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Current level: 34 L.69 Crude Platinum Dagger of the NimbleMax DEX Bonus = 1.76 Actual DEX Bonus = 1.17 Projected DEX Bonus = 1.76*(34 + 40)/(69 + 40) = 1.76(74)/109 = 1.194 (Error of -0.02) L. 279 Crude Shortsword of BalanceMax STR Bonus = 4.41 Actual STR Bonus = 0.98 Max DEX Bonus = 6.17 Actual DEX Bonus = 1.37 Projected DEX Bonus = 6.17*(34 + 40)/(279 + 40) = 6.17(74)/319 = 1.43 (Error of -0.05) Projected STR Bonus = 4.41*(34+40)/(279+40) = 4.41(74)/319 = 0.951 (Error of 0.3) --- I think I got all my math right. Might want to check me. Had some pretty interesting disparities, especially with my L. 279 item (that I mostly use for IW levelling). Just a thought, would the quality of the item have any effect? That's all I have time for (and it was all I had in my inventory); I'll check back later to try and get some more data. This post has been edited by WoopsE: Feb 4 2011, 20:21
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Feb 22 2011, 00:20
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Argos
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Level 44
Level 120 / Fine Ebony Staff of Focus
Wisdom + 1.74 (+ 0.89) 1,74*(44+40)/(120+40)=1,74*0,525=0,9135
Intelligence + 3.92 (+ 2.01) 3,92*0,525=2,058
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Feb 22 2011, 17:05
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Sayo Aisaka
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QUOTE(WoopsE @ Feb 4 2011, 18:12)  I think I got all my math right.
Actually, you got the STR bonus wrong on the Shortsword. So there isn't some huge error in the value for STR,in case anyone was worrying about that... QUOTE Just a thought, would the quality of the item have any effect?
It would make things interesting, but no. Anyway, a value of 36 seems to work for me.
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Feb 25 2011, 01:58
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Argos
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Level 46: Level 170 itemDexterity + 3,46 (+ 1,37) 3,46*0,4095= 1,42Agility + 0,58 (+ 0,23) 0,58*0,4095= 0,24Level 281 itemDexterity + 3,55 (+ 0,92) 3,55*0,2679= 0,95Agility + 5,32 (+ 1,37) 5,32*0,2679= 1,43
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Feb 25 2011, 02:13
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hgbdd
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Cmal you should change/update your OP with the correct scaling factor, or better, ask sayo to close the thread.
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Mar 13 2011, 22:45
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grumpymal
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Read the OP.
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Mar 13 2011, 23:17
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KamuiSeph
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Lvl 164: H1 15% chance to drain 154.6 (96.1) points of health M1 15% chance to drain 3.5 (2.2) points of magic M2 21% chance to drain 3.0 (1.8) points of magic S1 22% chance to drain 1.0 (0.6) points of spirit S2 14% chance to drain 1.5 (0.9) points of spirit
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Mar 13 2011, 23:34
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Ballistic9
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Lv103
H1: 154.6 (65.1) points of health M1: 3.5 (1.5) points of magic M2: 3.0 (1.2) points of magic S1: 1.0 (0.4) points of spirit S2: 1.5 (0.6) points of spirit
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Mar 14 2011, 04:38
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grumpymal
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Mar 14 2011, 14:32
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Sayo Aisaka
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Since we're recycling: QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Mar 13 2011, 13:15)  QUOTE(Ichy @ Mar 13 2011, 08:42)  Base 6 points drained, scales by 1/25 of base value per level. In case anyone's interested. Level 190. H1: 154.6 (109.3) H2: 152.5 (104.4) M1: 3.5 (2.5) M2: 3.0 (2.0) S1:S2: 1.5 (1.0)
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Mar 14 2011, 16:25
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futaria
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H1: 44.2
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