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post Feb 4 2011, 04:05
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Here's what you do. Click on the links and post your level, what the actual value is, and what it scales down to at your level.

M1
S2
S3

I suspect that Banshee probably doesn't scale down since it leeches so little, but the other two probably have the same factor.

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post Feb 4 2011, 04:28
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I found 35.5 gets me closer, but 40 works out well.
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post Feb 4 2011, 04:43
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should that be your_level / actual_level?

or am i misinterpreting the meaning?



ie. i have a lvl 262 staff with a wonderfully whole numbered 10 int bonus. so
10 * (158 + 40) / (262 +40) gets me 6.556, and the true scaled value on the popup is 6.51

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post Feb 4 2011, 05:44
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QUOTE(marcho @ Feb 3 2011, 21:43) *

should that be your_level / actual_level?

or am i misinterpreting the meaning?
ie. i have a lvl 262 staff with a wonderfully whole numbered 10 int bonus. so
10 * (158 + 40) / (262 +40) gets me 6.556, and the true scaled value on the popup is 6.51

I'll double check with my notes. I'll change it to make it clearer.

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post Feb 4 2011, 06:26
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Currently level 84

1) level 286 scythe

Strength: 16.21 * (84 + 40) / (286 + 40) = 6.1658 (Actual scaled value: 6.03)
Dexterity: 2.70 * (84 + 40) / (286 + 40) = 1.0270 (1.01)

2) level 206 estoc

Strength: 3.38 * (84 + 40) / (206 + 40) = 1.7037 (1.68)
Dexterity: 2.03 * (84 + 40) / (206 + 40) = 1.0233 (1.01)

3) level 202 estoc

Dexterity: 10.65 * (84 + 40) / (202 + 40) = 5.4570 (5.36)
Agility: 5.32 * (84 + 40) / (202 + 40) = 2.7260 (2.68)

4) level 266 scythe

Strength: 7.60 * (84 + 40) / (266 + 40) = 3.0797 (3.02)
Dexterity: 1.69 * (84 + 40) / (266 + 40) = 0.6848 (0.67)

5) level 141 pants

Dexterity: 6.93 * (84 + 40) / (141 + 40) = 4.7476 (4.69)
Agility: 2.47 * (84 + 40) / (141 + 40) = 1.6922 (1.68)


Enough for now? Or at least until more people post I guess?
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post Feb 4 2011, 07:12
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The more data I have from a wider level range, the better. So far, it looks like the factor is more accurate in the 35-37 range at lower levels.

If this doesn't work out, then we'll have to figure out a new formula for scaling that takes into account both scaling factors rather than the single simplified factor.
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post Feb 4 2011, 07:36
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My level: 41

Lv. 116 Fine Redwood Staff of Focus
Max Wisdom Bonus = 2.12
Actual Wisdom Bonus = 1.07
Max Intelligence Bonus = 1.27
Actual Intelligence Bonus = 0.64
Projected Wisdom Bonus = 2.12*(41 + 40)/(116 + 40) = 2.12*81/156 = 1.10 (Error of -0.03)
Projected Intelligence Bonus = 1.27*(41 + 40)/(116 + 40) = 1.27*81/156 = 0.66 (Error of -0.02)

Lv. 104 Fine Cotton Robe of Warding
Max Dexterity Bonus = 2.35
Actual Dexterity Bonus = 1.29
Max Agility Bonus = 2.35
Actual Agility Bonus = 1.29
Projected Bonus For Both = 2.35*(41 + 40)/(104 + 40) = 2.12*81/144 = 1.32 (Error of -0.03)


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post Feb 4 2011, 14:43
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QUOTE(cmal @ Feb 4 2011, 05:12) *

The more data I have from a wider level range, the better. So far, it looks like the factor is more accurate in the 35-37 range at lower levels.

If this doesn't work out, then we'll have to figure out a new formula for scaling that takes into account both scaling factors rather than the single simplified factor.
It's 36, at least I don't get a error bigger than 0.01 in the dkplee's scythes, plus I recalculated his data and it seems to fit as well.

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post Feb 4 2011, 20:12
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Current level: 34

L.69 Crude Platinum Dagger of the Nimble
Max DEX Bonus = 1.76
Actual DEX Bonus = 1.17
Projected DEX Bonus = 1.76*(34 + 40)/(69 + 40) = 1.76(74)/109 = 1.194 (Error of -0.02)

L. 279 Crude Shortsword of Balance
Max STR Bonus = 4.41
Actual STR Bonus = 0.98
Max DEX Bonus = 6.17
Actual DEX Bonus = 1.37
Projected DEX Bonus = 6.17*(34 + 40)/(279 + 40) = 6.17(74)/319 = 1.43 (Error of -0.05)
Projected STR Bonus = 4.41*(34+40)/(279+40) = 4.41(74)/319 = 0.951 (Error of 0.3)

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I think I got all my math right. Might want to check me. Had some pretty interesting disparities, especially with my L. 279 item (that I mostly use for IW levelling).

Just a thought, would the quality of the item have any effect?

That's all I have time for (and it was all I had in my inventory); I'll check back later to try and get some more data.

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post Feb 22 2011, 00:20
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Level 44

Level 120 / Fine Ebony Staff of Focus

Wisdom + 1.74 (+ 0.89)
1,74*(44+40)/(120+40)=1,74*0,525=0,9135

Intelligence + 3.92 (+ 2.01)
3,92*0,525=2,058
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post Feb 22 2011, 17:05
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QUOTE(WoopsE @ Feb 4 2011, 18:12) *

I think I got all my math right.

Actually, you got the STR bonus wrong on the Shortsword. So there isn't some huge error in the value for STR,in case anyone was worrying about that...
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Just a thought, would the quality of the item have any effect?

It would make things interesting, but no.

Anyway, a value of 36 seems to work for me.
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post Feb 25 2011, 01:58
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Level 46:

Level 170 item
Dexterity + 3,46 (+1,37)
3,46*0,4095=1,42

Agility + 0,58 (+0,23)
0,58*0,4095=0,24


Level 281 item
Dexterity + 3,55 (+0,92)
3,55*0,2679=0,95

Agility + 5,32 (+1,37)
5,32*0,2679=1,43
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post Feb 25 2011, 02:13
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Cmal you should change/update your OP with the correct scaling factor, or better, ask sayo to close the thread.
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post Mar 13 2011, 22:45
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Read the OP.
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post Mar 13 2011, 23:17
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Lvl 164:
H1 15% chance to drain 154.6 (96.1) points of health
M1 15% chance to drain 3.5 (2.2) points of magic
M2 21% chance to drain 3.0 (1.8) points of magic
S1 22% chance to drain 1.0 (0.6) points of spirit
S2 14% chance to drain 1.5 (0.9) points of spirit
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post Mar 13 2011, 23:34
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Lv103

H1: 154.6 (65.1) points of health
M1: 3.5 (1.5) points of magic
M2: 3.0 (1.2) points of magic
S1: 1.0 (0.4) points of spirit
S2: 1.5 (0.6) points of spirit

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post Mar 14 2011, 04:38
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Added H2.
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post Mar 14 2011, 11:18
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Current level 105

15% chance to drain 154.6 (66.1) points of health
21% chance to drain 152.5 (63.1) points of health
15% chance to drain 3.5 (1.5) points of magic
21% chance to drain 3.0 (1.2) points of magic
No such item ;_;
14% chance to drain 1.5 (0.6) points of spirit

I have these by the way.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=06bb922313 H
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f919c1bf2b M
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=988d0efb71 M
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post Mar 14 2011, 14:32
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Since we're recycling:
QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Mar 13 2011, 13:15) *

QUOTE(Ichy @ Mar 13 2011, 08:42) *

Base 6 points drained, scales by 1/25 of base value per level. In case anyone's interested.

Level 190.

H1: 154.6 (109.3)
H2: 152.5 (104.4)
M1: 3.5 (2.5)
M2: 3.0 (2.0)
S1:
S2: 1.5 (1.0)
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post Mar 14 2011, 16:25
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