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Jan 17 2013, 22:17
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MSimm1
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I know this thread is for posting monsters whose names don't conform with the "Monster Lab" guidelines in EHWiki However, people are people and they will name their creation whatever came to their mind at the time But, it's name isn't that big a deal, if your a mage and cast a spell at the monster and it had no effect, cast a different spell If your a melee player, just hack the crap out it Just kill it and move on, problem solved (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 17 2013, 23:23
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roadgray
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QUOTE(krautbernd @ Jan 17 2013, 21:09) This is the last time i will reply to you in this thread as i dont want to derail it. If you feel the need to discuss this further please upon up a new thread or write me a pm.
Yeah, no. QUOTE Be aware that generalizing this is a very dangerous thing. It implies people should rather shut up and carry on than question what they feel is wrong. Sure, constructive criticism is the best kind of criticism, but no one can be presumed to have all the answers - or even the right ones. If you have been on the internet for a while you'll realize that criticism (especially on games) will be ignored if it's just "me not like stuffs" because there are way too many idiots who do just that. I don't know if I can be blamed for putting you in that category. QUOTE It is not my intention to get *your* monsters banned. Your's were just the first ones i noticed and brought up here. You shouldn't have reported them if you didn't want to get them banned, since that was the entire purpose of this thread. It doesn't matter if you knew they were mine. They are mine and that's why I'm defending them. QUOTE I merely want to report monster that go against the monster naming guideline and are in my opinion "unfitting" (see thread title). I got that. I disagree. I say they don't violate any rules. What's so strange about a disguised item attacking players? QUOTE While i do understand that naming +40 monsters has it's difficulties, one should be able to come up *some* own inventions and not just merely take elements already in the game. This game does not offer much in terms of immersion, so having someone just copy+paste names while i (and many others) try to conform to the naming guideline is not what i would call gratifying. For a long time we've been encouraged to create armies of monsters (and mine are not even giants). With idk-how-many-thousands of monsters naming becomes... hard, to say the least. Blame the game, not the player. Get past lvl100 and it will never ever be a problem again. QUOTE If i have offended you by anything i wrote in my first post i hereby appologize, but as i already mentioned i can - for whatever reason - not edit that post. I have already reported it. It is not my intention to insult anyone by posting here. I'm not offended. Again, I'm merely challenging your claim that my monsters should be banned and of course asking for suggestions. Not that I actually fear that my lowly monsters will be picked out form the mass of questionable monsters, at least not as long 501st is still going strong.
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Jan 17 2013, 23:59
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Byledalej
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QUOTE(MSimm1 @ Jan 17 2013, 21:17) I know this thread is for posting monsters whose names don't conform with the "Monster Lab" guidelines in EHWiki However, people are people and they will name their creation whatever came to their mind at the time But, it's name isn't that big a deal, if your a mage and cast a spell at the monster and it had no effect, cast a different spell If your a melee player, just hack the crap out it Just kill it and move on, problem solved (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I think some people (maybe even most of them) post here to get rid of monster, whose name annoy them for some reasons and doesn't fit the rules. It may be only cosmetic change, but people don't post here to just whine about difficulty (in most cases), but to achieve something making HV a better place - get rid of Retarded monsters - just as title suggest. So stop defending all rules-disobeying monster creators QUOTE(roadgray @ Jan 17 2013, 19:26) I was merely voicing my dislike for your efforts of getting my monsters banned. I asked for better suggestions (which you still haven't given).
God forbid that we could have a productive discussion on a forum. Me hates x names lololol is wayy btr amiright? Criticism without a solution is cheap and makes whoever raises it look like an idiot.
In my opinion monsters should somehow fit in the world of Hentai aka Hentaiverse - names should be funny or represent something annoying to us all, characters of galleries content, players, or some known concept of monster type. For your case I think these names are perfectly fine - they don't violate rules and even fits - robots looking like items makes sense tactically (from designers view) But just for the record I think, that mechanoid names are easiest. Think of generation name and add serial number to this. Example: UBARSM model31 which could stand for Urban-fights design, Bipedal, Armored, equipped with Rocket launchers, Self-sufficient, Machine
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Jan 18 2013, 00:47
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MSimm1
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QUOTE(Byledalej @ Jan 17 2013, 15:59) I think some people (maybe even most of them) post here to get rid of monster, whose name annoy them for some reasons and doesn't fit the rules. It may be only cosmetic change, but people don't post here to just whine about difficulty (in most cases), but to achieve something making HV a better place - get rid of Retarded monsters - just as title suggest. So stop defending all rules-disobeying monster creators
I do agree, but I'm not defending rule disobeying monster creators If the name doesn't fit the class or just not appropriate then it should be dealt with I'm all for following the appropriate guidelines or rules set for anything, wouldn't really have it any other way
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Jan 18 2013, 01:23
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eleeinos
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Jan 17 2013, 04:20) If you have any better idea for naming "individuals" in an army of homogeneous robots that doesn't violate the random letters/numbers rule, please do share.
Robot One, Robot Two, Robot Three...? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jan 18 2013, 02:49
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roadgray
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QUOTE(Byledalej @ Jan 17 2013, 22:59) For your case I think these names are perfectly fine - they don't violate rules and even fits - robots looking like items makes sense tactically (from designers view)
But just for the record I think, that mechanoid names are easiest. Think of generation name and add serial number to this. Example: UBARSM model31 which could stand for Urban-fights design, Bipedal, Armored, equipped with Rocket launchers, Self-sufficient, Machine
That's actually not bad if it is allowed. The problem I saw with having abbreviations is that they would appear as just gibberish for other players. But It should be obvious enough with the model or mk. or whatever after the name. Of course things would be a lot easier if we had monster class icons already. QUOTE(eleeinos @ Jan 18 2013, 00:23) Robot One, Robot Two, Robot Three...? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I thought that would be definitely against the rules... Mild forms of uncreativity ok, severe cases not ok? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jan 21 2013, 01:23
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Necromusume
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Jan 17 2013, 02:20) If you have any better idea for naming "individuals" in an army of homogeneous robots that doesn't violate the random letters/numbers rule, please do share.
Hundreds of them, all alike. You should have seen them. Identical. Like ants. They're not a race. They're mechanical killers. You made them to destroy. That's all they can do. They're machines with a job. You let them stamp themselves, repair themselves. Made them more and more intricate. It's your fault [ en.wikisource.org] this happened.
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Jan 21 2013, 20:09
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krautbernd
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Scanning Binding Of The Spirit-ward... HP: 2183/2646 MP: 48/146 SP: 11/51 Monster Class: Mechanoid, Power Level 77 Monster Trainer: roadgray Melee Attack: Slashing Weak against: Elec Resistant to: Piercing, Fire, Cold, Wind, Holy, Soul Impervious to: Nothing Scanning I Am Not Mechanoid... HP: 1521/3032 MP: 96/150 SP: 12/53 Monster Class: Mechanoid, Power Level 75 Monster Trainer: 007neverdie Melee Attack: Slashing Weak against: Elec Resistant to: Piercing, Fire, Cold, Wind, Holy, Soul Impervious to: Nothing Yes you are. Stop lying. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by krautbernd: Jan 21 2013, 21:41
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Jan 23 2013, 20:31
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MikukoAya
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2 Scanning First Zombi... HP: 551/6003 MP: 239/366 SP: 79/140 Monster Class: Dragonkin, Power Level 302 Monster Trainer: FirstUser2000 Melee Attack: Crushing Weak against: Cold, Wind, Dark Resistant to: Crushing, Fire Impervious to: Nothing QUOTE(MSimm1 @ Jan 17 2013, 14:47) I do agree, but I'm not defending rule disobeying monster creators
If the name doesn't fit the class or just not appropriate then it should be dealt with
I'm all for following the appropriate guidelines or rules set for anything, wouldn't really have it any other way
The problem is that the majority of players disagree with the not fitting unless it is very obvious from experience. They'll get annoyed at "weak against " monsters and "dragonkin" monsters, but anything less exact they consider ok. I really wish Tenboro would just make the rules very clear about what is/isn't allowed. I've seen so many pen**/vag***/ra**/lo**/etc. monsters at this point that I don't even report them anymore because I don't have the time. I'd be reporting like two monsters every minute I'm fighting. Heck, the monster that I just reported, a few people would probably argue that it is ok if they saw this post saying that it doesn't clearly state undead. A few might even argue that the spelling is fine. This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Jan 24 2013, 15:55
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Jan 24 2013, 15:49
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MikukoAya
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oops.... my bad
This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Jan 24 2013, 15:50
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Jan 24 2013, 18:00
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roadgray
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QUOTE(MikukoAya @ Jan 23 2013, 19:31) ... pen**/vag***/ra**/lo**/etc. ...
Genuinely confused as to what the last 2 words are supposed to be.
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Jan 24 2013, 23:57
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Necromusume
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probably rape and loli.
just make disguise proficiency an official stat. If the monster makes its disguise roll, it displays a different monster class icon and a pseudo-randomly generated name. Hmm, an Avion Penis Raping Loli Vagina... *$%#, it's Lisi in disguise again! Then even high-level players can be trolled, because they won't know who to Weaken/Slow/MagNet/Imperil. : >
actually, to make it most useful, the disguise should often be a random monster whose PL is appropriate for it to be able to appear, but which has few or no chaos upgrades.
This post has been edited by mechafujoshi: Jan 25 2013, 00:02
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Jan 25 2013, 03:57
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MikukoAya
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QUOTE(mechafujoshi @ Jan 24 2013, 13:57) probably rape and loli.
just make disguise proficiency an official stat. If the monster makes its disguise roll, it displays a different monster class icon and a pseudo-randomly generated name. Hmm, an Avion Penis Raping Loli Vagina... *$%#, it's Lisi in disguise again! Then even high-level players can be trolled, because they won't know who to Weaken/Slow/MagNet/Imperil. : >
actually, to make it most useful, the disguise should often be a random monster whose PL is appropriate for it to be able to appear, but which has few or no chaos upgrades.
You know, considering how few humanoids I've seen, I was surprised when I saw like five earlier... We should make disguise an ability that humans get a bonus to... but only after Tenboro has added in monster race icons. Make them appear as one class until scanned, lol. Possibly even disguise their name! Kind of sad how accurate my way of figuring out what a monster's race/weaknesses actually is/are... (The lower the PL, the more accurate it is) "If it has a human (anime character specifically) name, it is probably a mechanoid. If not a mechanoid, then undead or celestial." "If it says a race, it is not that race. If it says a weakness, that is the strong point. If it says it isn't something, that is what it is." Don't even deny it >.> Ok, really now? (SpaQhetti?) Scanning Flying Spaqhetti Monster... HP: 4087/7895 MP: 135/385 SP: 9/144 Monster Class: Dragonkin, Power Level 319 Monster Trainer: 一期一会 Melee Attack: Crushing Weak against: Cold, Wind Resistant to: Crushing, Fire Impervious to: Nothing Scanning Real Live... HP: 2557/8030 MP: 189/345 SP: 63/139 Monster Class: Mechanoid, Power Level 330 Monster Trainer: 一期一会 Melee Attack: Piercing Weak against: Elec, Dark Resistant to: Piercing, Fire, Cold, Wind, Holy, Soul Impervious to: Nothing Now I'm actively looking for lnvisible Pink Unicorn lnvisibIe Pink Unicorn and every other variation =_= This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Jan 25 2013, 23:57
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Jan 25 2013, 11:43
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lolzerznijmniewdupe
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10 3 Dxxa1 gains the effect Weakened.
9 3 Fxaax23 gains the effect Weakened.
2 3 Dbdbdb has been defeated.
7 2 Duhhhhhhhhhhh has been defeated.
2 3 Abcde has been defeated.
This post has been edited by lolzerznijmniewdupe: Jan 25 2013, 12:24
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Jan 25 2013, 22:02
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flint
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27 2 Named Humanoid has been defeated. 23 5 Bbddtte has been defeated.
And rightly so.
This post has been edited by flint: Jan 25 2013, 22:30
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Jan 27 2013, 01:53
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lolzerznijmniewdupe
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8 4 Jhfgjkgthjk has been defeated. 9 3 Dddthee has been defeated. 7 2 Asdasfa has been defeated. 3 2 Mmddtte has been defeated.
EDIT: 6 3 Ggddtte has been defeated. 9 3 Qqddtte has been defeated. 1 3 Vvddtte has been defeated. 6 3 Eeddtte has been defeated. 3 2 Ppddtte has been defeated. 3 4 Ssddtte has been defeated. 4 4 Nnddtte has been defeated. 7 3 Iiddtte has been defeated.
What a bunch of stupid monster names. Can we ban their owner from making any monsters please?
This post has been edited by lolzerznijmniewdupe: Jan 27 2013, 19:05
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Jan 27 2013, 21:26
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flint
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Ouzai Big Brother Cat has been defeated.
Oh come fucking on!
Ed: Gfr5464hh has been defeated.
This post has been edited by flint: Jan 28 2013, 23:52
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Feb 3 2013, 11:28
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flint
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Yeah, double posting. Mainly because I don't know if this is thread is being checked upon at all.
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=49461 (Need0255) LV=310 HP=141766 0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=19284 (Need0213) LV=313 HP=163077 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=47445 (Need0201) LV=308 HP=120313
I mean... come on. This is shit.
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Feb 3 2013, 18:25
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varst
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QUOTE(flint @ Feb 3 2013, 17:28) Yeah, double posting. Mainly because I don't know if this is thread is being checked upon at all.
No it isn't. For a long time.
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Feb 5 2013, 04:31
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qazzy5
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This seems like the best thread to ask, how acceptable is it to bend the rules as far as Monster Class goes? I want to make one based on Lovely Ghost Kana, but as far as Skills and Resists the Undead class looks to me like it's mainly corporeal ones. I was thinking of going with Sprite (especially for the ability to have a Cold attack) if I go with just "Kana" or some other name that doesn't have Ghost in it would that be ok?
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