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I don't mind non humanoid monster have human name but I really hate false information monster name, meeting 2 thing name zombies which is not undead, 1 giant in name which is undead and a few "I fear" etc ... today =.=

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I don't mind non humanoid monster have human name but I really hate false information monster name, meeting 2 thing name zombies which is not undead, 1 giant in name which is undead and a few "I fear" etc ... today =.=

As a fire elementalist, it can be quite expensive mana-wise, even deadly. Add a monster or two resisting, and even normal can easily get me killed at this point if a few of these show up. And they do.

I don't mind it if it has any base in the actual character, eg. if char has died at a point during the show making it an undead, or making a 'hero of justice' char a celestial. Random assignments are not player-friendly, especially when scanning a monster takes a full turn - it's a death sentence for a mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Anyways, back on topic...
Namewise, I saw a Makisekurisu and a Kurisu Makise (couldn't get a scan, see 'death sentence' in the above paragraph (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)). There's probably a Makise Kurisu around, too, I'd wager.
Also: Hououin Ky0uma (that zero in there... why?), Bgkjgkj (random jumble)

This post has been edited by brzonogizmaj: Jan 3 2013, 04:24

0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=47710 (Mutant Peacocks) LV=82 HP=1383

Another pluralization of a basic monster.

Also, can we cool it on the trying to report monsters for not being the class we THINK they should be? I mean, if it says "I'm a giant" and it is an Avion, that is one thing, but random ass anime characters being something you don't agree with is a little bit particular.

EDIT:

Got another one, this time a misspelling:
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=9233 (Cookie Monstek) LV=83 HP=1948

This post has been edited by moopster: Jan 3 2013, 11:29

Also, can we cool it on the trying to report monsters for not being the class we THINK they should be? I mean, if it says "I'm a giant" and it is an Avion, that is one thing, but random ass anime characters being something you don't agree with is a little bit particular.

Have to agree with this. Random anime characters can be whatever the hell class they want (otherwise the pool would be 90% Humanoids, and that's boring). The name needs to convey information well enough to remember the monster next time. A name can do that, a jumble of gibberish can't. That random Polish-looking name is a viable name, it's memorable (if completely unpronounceable to anyone not familiar with Polish orthography).

Homura Akemi being a Mech (almost) makes sense, that's fine. Close enough for government work.

Giant Named As An Anime Character the Dragonkin? That's a meta-joke, I'd even call that one fine (come on, who here really expected that name to not lie?)

I Fear Fire the Elemental? Less than enthused about that one, but the English speaking Fire mages in the audience will remember that bastard at least. The name is unique enough to convey information (unlike Generic Name 37) Drop an Imperil on him and the name is now accurate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Corpses the Giant? Yeah, fuck you.

Zombie 003 the Giant? That should cost someone a monster slot.

I should name my next monsters as 'Alasklerbanbastos', 'Ingeloakastimizilian', 'Mergandevinasander', 'Otaaryliakkarnos', and 'Xexillidaulgrymm'. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I should name my next monsters as 'Alasklerbanbastos', 'Ingeloakastimizilian', 'Mergandevinasander', 'Otaaryliakkarnos', and 'Xexillidaulgrymm'. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Dragons? What's so wrong with that? Almost all fantasy histories gives long and almost unpronounceable names to them.

This post has been edited by Byledalej: Jan 3 2013, 13:20

Dragons? What's so wrong with that? Almost all fantasy histories gives long and almost unpronounceable names to them.

According to PK678353, I should then be able to name it whatever class I want to! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by varst: Jan 3 2013, 13:23

According to PK678353, I should then be able to name it whatever class I want to! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Sadly, I think those names would actually improve the name pool at some common PLs. At least I can remember to Imperil Alaskerbanblastos, unlike Aww-833 or Sick In 37.

I may have phrased 'whatever the hell they want' slightly wrong. If you don't know Madoka, Homura being a Mech makes no sense (she's definitely not a robot), but she definitely depends on mechanical stuff for all of her attacks. To the outside eye, it looks like they just went with the mechanically optimal Mech (read: whatever the hell they want), and let's face it, they probably did. Certainly a tenuous connection, but a huge chunk of anime characters people care about enough to create a monster for are Humanoids of some stripe, so if we enforced that strictly we'd be kind of limited there (especially if you start counting humanoid oni and other supernaturals as Humanoid). I'm more than willing to accept tenuous relationships there (though I wish people would find tenuous ways to make things that weren't Mechs/Undead/Elementals, I'm wearing out my Imperil finger here).

My point was that the pool's already fucked, we may as well admit that and focus on the egregious stuff. It would be arbitrary to deactivate say Homura when there's a thousand other examples sitting there, and I don't like arbitrary. Homura's my example because unlike some random crap I can actually remember what she is. That and I'm a Homura fanboy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

My other point is that we don't know what they were thinking when they created the monster, and a lot of crap can be justified with a few (hundred. . .) logical leaps. I'd rather not kill someone's monster that makes sense to them when they believed they were obeying the rules, since some of the references are pretty damn obscure. Take one of my monsters, Armada Peach (Humanoid, PL 25). The reference is to a top Melee player (Armada, who mains Peach), but lets face it, how many of the people here have any clue who the hell that is?

On the other hand, if Tenboro is actually deactivating complained about monsters, I wish he'd let us know on occasion. Since I haven't seen any posts from him or from people bitching that Generic Zombie 17 the Giant isn't fighting anymore and they can't replace him, I'm assuming he's given up on curating the monster pool for now.

This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 3 2013, 14:24

I'm more than willing to accept tenuous relationships there (though I wish people would find tenuous ways to make things that weren't Mechs/Undead/Elementals, I'm wearing out my Imperil finger here).

That's the point I was trying to make earlier. I can squint on Homura the Mech (I haven't seen the anime, but I have seen lots of illustrations...). But, e.g., Kotegawa Yui the Dragonkin makes absolutely zero sense to me. If someone else can find a connection, please tell me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

On the other hand, if Tenboro is actually deactivating complained about monsters, I wish he'd let us know on occasion. Since I haven't seen any posts from him or from people bitching that Generic Zombie 17 the Giant isn't fighting anymore and they can't replace him, I'm assuming he's given up on curating the monster pool for now.

Reading 10 or so pages back, it seems that only really offensive names are being dealt with, and the other rules are pretty much null and void. Damn. Updating the first post to reflect this would be nice.

Why don't we have Humuhumunukunukuapuaa and Lauwiliwilinukunukuoioi yet?

if nobody ninjas them, I'd make a set of three:
Humuhumunukunukuapuaa
Homuhomunukonukoapuaa
Homohomonupunupuahaha

This post has been edited by mechafujoshi: Jan 3 2013, 16:21

Just named it "Good bye" and "Thank you" is hard enough for the players to guess what the hell kind of monster they are.

Reading 10 or so pages back, it seems that only really offensive names are being dealt with, and the other rules are pretty much null and void. Damn. Updating the first post to reflect this would be nice.

Went 10 or so pages back and saw this. It is kinda disappointing, I'm getting frustrated at some of the monsters I am seeing over and over that clearly break the rules.

7 Spawned Monster F: MID=24894 (Cold Weakness) LV=61 HP=1230

Went 10 or so pages back and saw this. It is kinda disappointing, I'm getting frustrated at some of the monsters I am seeing over and over that clearly break the rules.

Yeah I see ones that brake the rules ALL THE TIME.

This post has been edited by wolfgirl of autumn92: Jan 4 2013, 01:57

Scanning Kanzaki H Aria...
HP: 668/3310 MP: 113/263 SP: 30/107
Monster Class: Undead, Power Level 208
Monster Trainer: mgsdmj
Melee Attack: Slashing
Weak against: Fire, Holy
Resistant to: Piercing, Cold, Elec, Wind, Dark
Impervious to: Nothing

vs

Scanning Aria The Scarlet Ammo...
HP: 1659/2463 MP: 53/216 SP: 11/101
Monster Class: Mechanoid, Power Level 166
Monster Trainer: Loli connnnn
Melee Attack: Slashing
Weak against: Elec
Resistant to: Piercing, Fire, Cold, Wind, Holy, Soul
Impervious to: Nothing



Both are referring to the same person. Hidan no Aria, Aria the Quatra, Aria The Scarlet Ammo, Kanzaki H Aria, Aria H Kanzaki, etc.

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The scarlet ammo is later in the series though and H stands for Holmes.

I wouldn't mind them not being humanoid except... It is misleading. Humans are really only weak to darkness. Undead are strong to darkness. Mechanoids are not strong against darkness, but aren't really weak against darkness either.

I personally think that if you are going to name a monster after a character, it should be based on said character. As an example, I wouldn't make an undead named Zeus or a sprite named Hercules or a dragonkin named Fenrir (though Fenrir could be a name, it is a famous name of a certain 'wolf').

I mean, if multiple races fit the bill, then sure. Like what's his name from a certain zombie series that turns into a zombie. Humanoid or Undead would both make sense. Or like birdy (the mighty), I could see her being humanoid or mechanoid. Heck, the person that made birdy chose celestial and that makes some sense.

But otherwise, it is just misleading. Especially if the original race is weak to one element and the actual race is strong against that element. (or attack type). To me, it is just a more discreet way of saying: "Weak to piercing" As an example, if I made "God"/"Metatron"/"Gabriel the messenger of God"/"Michael the messenger of God"/"Servant of God" undead, most mages would try to fire a dark attack at it and find it effectively negated. I didn't directly say it was strong against holy or weak against dark, but I IMPLIED it.

Similarly, if I named a Mechanoid (strong against holy and soul, neutral to dark, strong/neutral to physical) "Lucifer the Fallen," most would assume it is weak to holy (Implied Daimon race). Or named an Undead (strong against dark) "Lucifer the Right Hand of God" a few would assume I was referring to an angel (weak to dark).


As for diversity. I don't see that many humanoids honestly. I mostly see Mechanoids and Undead with a few Dragonkin and Elementals. I rarely see Daimons and Celestials. Anthropods, Avions, Beasts, Reptilian, and Sprites I don't see often. Giants I've been seeing a few of. Humanoids? Almost never.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Jan 5 2013, 21:31

For some people like me who didn't watch Hidan no Aria, it doesn't make any different with a mob with a strings of gibberish name though

For some people like me who didn't watch Hidan no Aria, it doesn't make any different with a mob with a strings of gibberish name though

Then what is the point even of naming monsters? I see more "Weak to pierce" mobs that are strong to pierce and "Afraid of dagger" mobs that are strong against daggers than I see realistic names. So why not just have all mobs be a set of random numbers and letters then? Then there would be no misunderstandings at all.

As I said, it isn't the "they aren't really this" that bothers me. It is the weakness reversal that does. And I do agree somewhat about the "as long as there is a link" thing, but I'd like to see references to the link. There are already countless monsters based on the same characters so if the "link" is pushing it, I'd like to see some sort of hint about it rather than just a name.

Otherwise, misspellings should be completely fine as well as pluralization since "it doesn't make any different with a mob with a strings of gibberish name". I mean, if we just consider every monster name to be a random string, then misspellings shouldn't matter and pluralization shouldn't matter.

I mean, yes, I totally get that people want to make it so their mob gets wins. But there is winning because you made your monster well or because of pure luck and then winning because your monster hinted one thing but was actually something else. I think implication is just as bad as outright stating, personally.

I will admit though that I only really look at the name of the last mob standing though. Otherwise I fight based on "feel". The monster "Feels" like a celestial and thus it probably is. Nothing to do with the name, it is more of there is this sort of feeling it gives off depending on the race. It "Feels" like I should use lightning/crush/pierce/etc. so I use it.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Jan 5 2013, 21:44

As i said, human name on non humanoid is still acceptable because for the people who didn't know the show, they will not know what types of monster they are, or their reference's weakness so it is fair game. Not like the falsed information named mobs like "I fear cold" on a Elemental monster or named "Zombie No1" even they are not undead type

-- When creating monsters based on characters, use the full name (first + last order). If there are monsters with similar names, usually only one of them will stay, based on name accuracy and seniority.


Kanzaki H Aria is Last+First order in English. Family name then personal name in Japanese.

And there are multiple. My later post was more referring to that, which is why I pointed out that they both referred to the same person.

Personally, Kanzaki H Aria makes more sense since it is her name rather than her name + title.

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undead makes SOME sense due to her having been shot with a shot that probably should have been fatal. As I said though, the only thing I don't like about misleading races is the implied weaknesses of the races.

Isn't the name kinda misleading?

Scanning I Fear Fire...
HP: 35171/43075 MP: 83/464 SP: 152/159
Monster Class: Elemental, Power Level 525
Monster Trainer: gc00018
Melee Attack: Wind
Weak against: Crushing, Piercing, Soul
Resistant to: Fire, Cold, Elec, Wind, Holy, Dark
Impervious to: Nothing
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Name is I Fear Fire... and it is resistant to fire