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Feb 1 2011, 18:43
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lovehcomics
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Feb 1 2011, 10:28)  Is the value for HVStat the chance per round? Attempt? Each turn that it's possible to attempt? I swear it's several times harder to get it to go, now. ::EDIT:: Mentioning bugs, it seems we're supposed to be able to retry an item world immediately just so long as we die/flee. Confirmed not a bug, heh. This post has been edited by lovehcomics: Feb 1 2011, 18:47
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Feb 1 2011, 18:55
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 2 2011, 00:28)  You're focusing on one single stat. You need to stop doing that.
Sadly, this isn't the case. Nobody actually cares what the other stats do aside from that item's primary stat. That's why even after this update, nobody really cares if Redwood staffs have 50% ET now, or that Willow staffs have more Deprecating prof. When it comes to staffs, the only thing that really matters to the players is damage, and that's why only Ebony and Katalox are used. Same thing with armor. That's the reason why many people are whining about the Phase change. If people want Evade, they will just get Silk Fleet. When people get a Phase Cheetah/Raccoon, what they're really thinking is "Crap, this is almost as good as a Silk Fleet. Almost."
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Feb 1 2011, 18:56
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HNTI
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QUOTE Drop rates for some of the rare items were adjusted. I guess with a new possibility of obtaining them from artefacts they will be rare no more xD.
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Feb 1 2011, 19:05
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Feb 1 2011, 08:55)  Same thing with armor. That's the reason why many people are whining about the Phase change. If people want Evade, they will just get Silk Fleet. When people get a Phase Cheetah/Raccoon, what they're really thinking is "Crap, this is almost as good as a Silk Fleet. Almost."
Most are probably thinking. Fuck, this could have been something good. (Mjolnir, Surtr, Elementalist, etc.) When I get an Exquisite Phase Robe of the Cheetah, I'm going to break something. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Feb 1 2011, 19:14
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mikol
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how do i use crystals i can't figure that out
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Feb 1 2011, 19:15
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hyl
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QUOTE(mikol @ Feb 1 2011, 18:14)  how do i use crystals i can't figure that out
you can't untill the next update arrives
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Feb 1 2011, 19:16
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Darq
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QUOTE(mikol @ Feb 1 2011, 18:14)  how do i use crystals i can't figure that out
It is not implented yet. edit: to slow... This post has been edited by Darq: Feb 1 2011, 19:17
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Feb 1 2011, 19:20
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 1 2011, 09:18)  Phase is supposed to be superior to both Gossamer and Silk, for both purposes, depending on how you roll it.
What other use could silk possibly be for besides evade? A good silk of the fleet piece will always have a higher evade than a phase piece despite phase having a naturally higher base evade simply because it doesn't have a fleet suffix. There's only one reason people use silk for, and that's to avoid the shit out of attacks.
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Feb 1 2011, 19:35
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Feb 1 2011, 15:28)  Crap. You were right cmdct. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) It happens sometimes (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(lovehcomics @ Feb 1 2011, 16:43)  Is the value for HVStat the chance per round? Attempt? Each turn that it's possible to attempt? I swear it's several times harder to get it to go, now.
You should ask cmal instead.
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Feb 1 2011, 19:37
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Msgr. Radixius
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Either I have really poor luck with tokens or I've not trained something correctly. I've probably accrued 6 or 7 Tokens of Healing and a single Token of Blood total.
Currently going through the ranks of Scavenger to see if that fixes anything.
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Feb 1 2011, 19:44
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hyl
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QUOTE(radixius @ Feb 1 2011, 18:37)  Either I have really poor luck with tokens or I've not trained something correctly. I've probably accrued 6 or 7 Tokens of Healing and a single Token of Blood total.
Currently going through the ranks of Scavenger to see if that fixes anything.
Most of the tokens are obtained from the arena token bonusses. The more arena's you can clear, the more tokens you can get. They rarely drop as monster loot
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Feb 1 2011, 19:45
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buktore
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Feb 2 2011, 00:05)  Most are probably thinking. Fuck, this could have been something good. (Mjolnir, Surtr, Elementalist, etc.) When I get an Exquisite Phase Robe of the Cheetah, I'm going to break something. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Heh, I was going to post exactly this! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Seeing all the RAGE! from this thread.. I might try it too! Ahem....Please! Make Niten gain prof! Please, I beg you! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Or otherwise, combined the 2H bonus with Niten too! It supposed to be a powerful fighting style and get the best of both world but doesn't gain prof. Now you get convoluted Siamese-twin kind of fighting style instead! Why would it not get what it deserve...? This is simply unfair! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Make Katana easier to drop! Please! It's make no sense it still so hard to find while there hardly any demand for it... On the other hand, all the oh so powerful mage up there keep producing phase after phase it almost looks like they were just fucking start a new industrial revolution or something...! While at it, made melee blah blah blah *superawesomeonewhackIWBTH* blah blah! And make every drop a Legendary Quality. I will not contribute until this is done! OK!? kthxbye. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by buktore: Feb 1 2011, 19:50
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Feb 1 2011, 19:49
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Feb 1 2011, 17:20)  What other use could silk possibly be for besides evade? A good silk of the fleet piece will always have a higher evade than a phase piece despite phase having a naturally higher base evade simply because it doesn't have a fleet suffix. There's only one reason people use silk for, and that's to avoid the shit out of attacks.
Yeah, but that's only because until now basically full silk was the best approach. If you mix gear, the absence of compromise stats of phase can also "avoid the shit out of attacks". We need more trophies to get the phase "we" want, that was the propose all along. But the drop rate should be increased, it's ridiculous how hard is to get a single piece. @buktore: If you trade trophies of 2H weapons you'll probably get katanas like phase.
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Feb 1 2011, 19:54
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Sushilicious
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It's funny how in just 2 days there are more posts in this thread than every other patch notes thread.
And half of them are QQ posts.
I can see it now, HV 0.5.1 : Balancing changes 2.0
This post has been edited by sushi0: Feb 1 2011, 19:54
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Feb 1 2011, 19:55
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buktore
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That's exactly what I did. I trade much less trophies for cloth, yet get more phase than katana.
I was just joking btw... in case if you're not notice.
This post has been edited by buktore: Feb 1 2011, 19:59
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Feb 1 2011, 20:07
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Feb 1 2011, 17:54)  It's funny how in just 2 days there are more posts in this thread than every other patch notes thread.
There's still one with more +20 posts, but at this rate not for long QUOTE(buktore @ Feb 1 2011, 17:55)  That's exactly what I did. I trade much less trophies for cloth, yet get more phase than katana.
I was just joking btw... in case if you're not notice.
Maybe because there's 5 different 2H weapons against the 4 different cloth. And I noticed, but I thought it was a half joke (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Feb 1 2011, 20:11
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Darq
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QUOTE(buktore @ Feb 1 2011, 18:45)  Or otherwise, combined the 2H bonus with Niten too! It supposed to be a powerful fighting style and get the best of both world but doesn't gain prof. Now you get convoluted Siamese-twin kind of fighting style instead! Why would it not get what it deserve...?
Also i must say, that niten gets no profiency gain is a little bit dump. Even if it is powerful, it should get at least a reduced prof gain.
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Feb 1 2011, 20:15
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bladejtr
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Feb 1 2011, 11:55)  Sadly, this isn't the case. Nobody actually cares what the other stats do aside from that item's primary stat. That's why even after this update, nobody really cares if Redwood staffs have 50% ET now, or that Willow staffs have more Deprecating prof. When it comes to staffs, the only thing that really matters to the players is damage, and that's why only Ebony and Katalox are used.
Same thing with armor. That's the reason why many people are whining about the Phase change. If people want Evade, they will just get Silk Fleet. When people get a Phase Cheetah/Raccoon, what they're really thinking is "Crap, this is almost as good as a Silk Fleet. Almost."
The they're idiots, a phase robe with 5% evade and +10 agi is absolutely better than a silk robe with 6% evade and 1 agi.
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Feb 1 2011, 20:17
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(bladejtr @ Feb 2 2011, 02:15)  The they're idiots, a phase robe with 5% evade and +10 agi is absolutely better than a silk robe with 6% evade and 1 agi.
But we have 9% and 10% evade silk robes.
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Feb 1 2011, 20:19
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bladejtr
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Feb 1 2011, 13:17)  But we have 9% and 10% evade silk robes.
My numbers were intended to be a generic comparative example, not specific maximum possible stats.
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