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post Dec 11 2024, 21:27
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so I'm redoing my network since I got a managed switch from work, I see two options regarding vlans and if router has to deal with them or not. wonder if anyone with more networking knowledge could tell me which is sane(r)

options outlayed in a plaintext file in my home dir:
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A) interface based logic in router
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switch | vlan 10 | vlan11 | vlan12 |
--------+----------+-------+--------
        |          |       |         <- access ports
--------+----------+-------+--------
router                             |
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++ in my mind more optimal since full interface bandwidth per network uplink
++ arguably more simple router config since its just interface seperated
-- recommended against everywhere since flexability limits and other enterprise things


B) vlan based logic in router
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switch | vlan 10 | vlan11 | vlan12 |
------+------------+-------+--------
     |||                             <- trunk port
------+------------+-------+--------
router                             |
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++ recommended everywhere since flexability and other enterprise things
-- arguably more complex router config since vlan interfaces need to be made first
-- possibly performance limiting since now everything is shoved through one gigabit port?
in my limited networking knowledge option A seems nicer to not deal with on router, I dont need it to scale much beyond what I have as physical interfaces. the only reason I'm posting this as the more traditional setup I see is only ever B, presumably and understandably it makes far more sense in big enterprise setups compared to having to wire everything, but I'm wondering if theres any compelling reason on a small setup like this.

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post Dec 11 2024, 21:38
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post Dec 12 2024, 14:51
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Not sure what retarded fucking shit pixiv pulled but apparently the shithole is triggered by my adblock filters and it's auto refreshing 12 times a second, probably putting my IP on a blacklist.
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post Dec 13 2024, 02:47
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I can't decide whether to go ATX, mATX, or ITX for my new build.

ATX: Highest parts compatibility, easier to upgrade and add parts, the widest range of parts to choose from. If I ever change motherboards in the future, this will give me the most flexibility since ATX cases can take all sizes. But most ATX cases are too large and bulky, taking up desk space (putting it on the floor isn't an option for me).

mATX: Nice blend of compactness and parts compatibility. Less upgrades (M2 slots, etc.) than ATX. Not as many mATX motherboards compared to ATX so upgrading one might be a problem if I choose to keep the case. Cases are smaller and sit nicely on a desk but this also means that I have to make compromises or sacrifices to get everything to fit.

ITX: This size is perfect for my desk. Actually the cheapest option according to the parts I chose. But future upgrades are basically nil, and I'm stuck on ITX unless I change the case.

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post Dec 13 2024, 12:14
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RIP the high quality satelite imagery by Esri dated 2022 on OpenStreetMap. Bright and sharp compared to Bing's outdated imagery. Very easy to distinguish the different house/shop units within the same structure, the building/house's outlines are very clear and I could even make out miniscule details like fences and benches on plain ground.

Esri's 2023-2024 update imagery on the other hand is grainy and dark and blurry in many places.
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post Dec 13 2024, 14:08
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QUOTE(KTZ @ Dec 13 2024, 08:47) *

I can't decide whether to go ATX, mATX, or ITX for my new build.

ATX: Highest parts compatibility, easier to upgrade and add parts, the widest range of parts to choose from. If I ever change motherboards in the future, this will give me the most flexibility since ATX cases can take all sizes. But most ATX cases are too large and bulky, taking up desk space (putting it on the floor isn't an option for me).

mATX: Nice blend of compactness and parts compatibility. Less upgrades (M2 slots, etc.) than ATX. Not as many mATX motherboards compared to ATX so upgrading one might be a problem if I choose to keep the case. Cases are smaller and sit nicely on a desk but this also means that I have to make compromises or sacrifices to get everything to fit.

ITX: This size is perfect for my desk. Actually the cheapest option according to the parts I chose. But future upgrades are basically nil, and I'm stuck on ITX unless I change the case.


ATX. If you are really ass, put it sideways and put the monitor on top. Why is putting the case on the floor not an option for you?


QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ Dec 12 2024, 20:51) *

Not sure what retarded fucking shit pixiv pulled but apparently the shithole is triggered by my adblock filters and it's auto refreshing 12 times a second, probably putting my IP on a blacklist.


Too hasty with my judgement. Turned out to be 2 conflicting filters that triggered an endless cookie update -> refresh loop.

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post Dec 13 2024, 18:33
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QUOTE(KTZ @ Dec 13 2024, 02:47) *

I can't decide whether to go ATX, mATX, or ITX for my new build.
personally I'd never want to subject myself to some tiny no space build. but with your list maybe then mATX if you must go smaller. any reason you cant just hang your ATX build on the wall?
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post Dec 14 2024, 02:03
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Dec 13 2024, 06:33) *

personally I'd never want to subject myself to some tiny no space build. but with your list maybe then mATX if you must go smaller. any reason you cant just hang your ATX build on the wall?



I went Mini ITX because before that I had a giant server rack PC. The Mini ITX build is more powerful with better cooling but a serious serious pain in the ass to build. Also a lot of parts have a Mini ITX tax and cost way more.

I had to get a lot parts from boutique German and Chinese suppliers.
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post Dec 15 2024, 06:25
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 14 2024, 02:03) *

I went Mini ITX because before that I had a giant server rack PC. The Mini ITX build is more powerful with better cooling but a serious serious pain in the ass to build. Also a lot of parts have a Mini ITX tax and cost way more.

I had to get a lot parts from boutique German and Chinese suppliers.
so besides the more powerful which coudlve also been a thing when you got better hardware in the same formfactor. the most compelling other selling points are more expensive and a pain to build.
its not quite selling it for me
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post Dec 15 2024, 06:30
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"Unable to reach OpenStreetMap API"

Grab, Organic Maps etc. must be downloading and compiling the latest map data from OSM today.

Turns out there's a maintenance going on due to network. I was hoping for vandalism purging though.

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post Dec 16 2024, 05:57
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what has made mini itx and the like so popular all of a sudden?
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post Dec 16 2024, 12:45
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QUOTE(ramenpunch @ Dec 15 2024, 17:57) *

what has made mini itx and the like so popular all of a sudden?



A lot more support in terms of power supplies and cases and niche parts. There are a lot more people on social media and youtube doing builds and guides as well.

Power supply is a big deal, not that long ago it capped at 350w and most were 180w in the SFX / ITX form factor unless you got expensive server power supplies. Now it goes 1000w+.

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post Dec 16 2024, 22:15
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survived since last thursday without central heater (pipe blew inside) thanks to my inefficient hardware. was 15°C or warmer in my pc room the entire time.
take that efficient hardware
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post Dec 31 2024, 10:22
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Dec 16 2024, 10:15) *

survived since last thursday without central heater (pipe blew inside) thanks to my inefficient hardware. was 15°C or warmer in my pc room the entire time.
take that efficient hardware


The heat from my current PC is really annoying if I game on it. I imagine the RTX 5080 will be nuts.



The thing that really annoys me about 4k UHD is the poor technical reporting of disks. Between different regions and releases there can be vast differences in quality. When they report the specs of a disk on the back cover they rarely include the technical specs.

With updates from the past few years, its basically a consumer version of the theatrical format but there is no guarantee they will use the best encoding for video and audio. Even for the same movie there can be multiple different releases so it can be a real shit show.

At the top end, 100gb disk with 12 bit color and maxing out the REC 2020 color space, with 90 mbps bit rate and maxed out consumer dolby atmos, UHD 4k can exceed the cinema experience potentially.

TLDR: Rambo collection has been released six times on 4K UHD already however the actual full remaster from negatives and full audio restoration is not out until next year.

Also for Lord of the Rings, they keep lying and putting out different upscales based on the HD DVD and Bluray versions. They look pretty decent after the incremental fixes, but not as good as they could from a full rescan and remaster. The fact that they have lied multiple times, is an issue too. EG flagging that the upcoming release will be the remaster but then just doing an encoding update for the upscale.


It kind of reminds me of the laser disk days back when different regions could get releases of vastly different quality depending on which distributor was in charge.



edit: Also for anime movie releases on 4K crunchyroll has really screwed up some of its releases. For Your Name and Suzume for example the Crunchyroll 4k used the 4k streaming version with low bit rate, color depth and audio encoding... Their 4k releases were worse than the Bluray releases but at a premium price.

I pirated those movies, as it was the only way to get the proper 4k releases. I am not sure if its crunchyroll being totally inept or Japan restricting the best quality releases like the old days. Other countries in Asia did get the high quality 4k releases, though they were sold as limited edition with a premium.

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post Jan 1 2025, 05:04
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I barely notice heat coming out of my desktop and i like it that way
my dual netburst xeon monster was a space heater when i had that though
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I barely notice heat coming out of my desktop and i like it that way
my dual netburst xeon monster was a space heater when i had that though


As long as noise levels are good i don't much care about heat
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post Jan 1 2025, 22:53
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As long as noise levels are good i don't much care about heat
heat means higher electric bills and probably lower lifespans on parts
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heat means higher electric bills and probably lower lifespans on parts


Underclocking my current pc dropped my electric bill at the cost of maybe 5% performance. Still produces a fair bit of heat though.
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 3 2025, 05:37) *

Underclocking my current pc dropped my electric bill at the cost of maybe 5% performance. Still produces a fair bit of heat though.

undervolting will help even more.
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QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ Jan 5 2025, 07:20) *

undervolting will help even more.



Yeah sorry, I did both. With modern hardware its almost like a similar difference. You are tweaking the voltage / max clock algorithms to have the highest clocks for the lowest voltage.

For the GPU, a 5-10% drop is performance for 150w decrease in peak power..

For CPU a 5% drop for 50w decrease in peak power but depends on settings, as some mobos just yolo the power and hope the overvoltage and heat protection will save them.
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