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post Aug 3 2024, 01:43
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QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Aug 1 2024, 04:24) *

Planned obsolescence maybe? We shall burn your chip for you, so you will never stop spending more money on us!


The microcode fix only guarantees the chips will last at least 3 years. If it was a manufacturer defect that they acknowledged people would be entitled to longer periods or demand a recall during the warranty period.

QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Aug 1 2024, 04:24) *

I usually cheap out on the mobo. This time I decided to go a bit nuts and got their Dark Hero Z790. Can't say I am too impressed by the constant need to update my BIOS, or the fact that they are using "we have an error code display!" as a selling point.


That sucks? I thought intel did not require as many bios updates. My AMD processor / Asus mobo has had like 20 bios releases. Largely because loads of the features were not available at release.

I'd maybe buy AMD again, but for the 5900x its super dependent on buying ultra low latency ram, which might not even be in production anymore and once manufacturers released they had a captive market they put a giant premium on those kits.
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post Aug 3 2024, 02:43
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QUOTE(-terry- @ Aug 1 2024, 13:16) *
I remember when it used to be standard on mid range or even lower boards.
I have a PCI POST card for my "whatever" asrock Z77 and H77 boards from 2012 (They have a parallel PCI bridge on them).

QUOTE(cate_chan @ Aug 1 2024, 14:14) *
ordered some new (second hand bargains) stuff to go from 2012 of my current era hardware to mostly 2016
Why tho
AVX2 is the only thing I can think of that I don't have in 2012/2013.

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post Aug 3 2024, 04:33
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A new mouse. Because my logitech buttons keep dying so I changed to Glorious brand instead. So far so much better.

Tell you something I didn't buy - an Intel.
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post Aug 3 2024, 04:43
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You can usually take apart and clean and re-assemble mouse buttons, unless they are the tiny perfectly square box kind. The microswitch kind that make the sound most people think of as "the sound a computer mouse makes" are cleanable.
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post Aug 3 2024, 09:20
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Intel stock price is going in a freefall.

Their response?

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This company is horribly mismanaged.

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 2 2024, 23:43) *
The microcode fix only guarantees the chips will last at least 3 years. If it was a manufacturer defect that they acknowledged people would be entitled to longer periods or demand a recall during the warranty period.
And now they extended the warranty by 2 years.
- [www.tomshardware.com] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...core-processors

I have a 12900KS as an insurance plan, so even if it dies today I'd still be fine. I really don't have the time to fuck with and (more importantly) wait for RMA now.

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That sucks? I thought intel did not require as many bios updates. My AMD processor / Asus mobo has had like 20 bios releases. Largely because loads of the features were not available at release.

I'd maybe buy AMD again, but for the 5900x its super dependent on buying ultra low latency ram, which might not even be in production anymore and once manufacturers released they had a captive market they put a giant premium on those kits.
I have sworn off AMD for the past ~10 years, so I donno how good/bad their chips really are. But my friends using a 7800x3D/7950x3D are really satisfied with them so far, in the sense that they don't need to go nuts with the cooler, and uh, it doesn't die in few months.

They did have issues with the DDR5 XMPs though. Even with manual tinkering, they couldn't get them to run stable beyond 6000 MT/s, or 5600 MT/s if they go for tight timings.

The industry has been very fixated on making the largest e-penis product, to the point they forgot performance means dick if the freaking thing just disintegrates on its own.
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post Aug 3 2024, 11:33
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QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Aug 2 2024, 21:20) *

They did have issues with the DDR5 XMPs though. Even with manual tinkering, they couldn't get them to run stable beyond 6000 MT/s, or 5600 MT/s if they go for tight timings.


Yeah its a like a combo of the AMDs being picky with which ram dimms they like and variability in silicon quality with the onboard memory controller.

It doesn't help that some manufacturers now will change the chips on a kit and keep the same SKU number / product designation.

So even if it was a known good kit, that doesn't mean it will be in the future. The other shitty thing is when resellers buy up the best kits to resell.

There were people working on tools that would automagically help you dial in the best settings but the reddit community had a falling out with them and so they stopped development.

Looks like the new versions might exist but paywalled.


edit: The AMD x3D chips were all pretty good out of the box. Intel was better with tuning except now you can't really push them lol. The new 9800x3D will be good when it releases next year.



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post Aug 4 2024, 02:42
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post Aug 4 2024, 13:44
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QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ Aug 3 2024, 02:43) *

Why tho
AVX2 is the only thing I can think of that I don't have in 2012/2013.
with things becoming worse and worse to compile (gtk mainly) I wanted to give myeslf a fighting chance. not particularly fond of the near hour I have to spend currently just recompiling gtk junk.
and the price was right felt like a good excuse and deal
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post Aug 4 2024, 14:27
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Nice technology.
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post Aug 5 2024, 01:09
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QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Aug 4 2024, 02:27) *

Nice technology.



I was thinking, bots are technology.. though the rest of their posts seem to be legit unless their account was captured due to weak password or something.

QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Aug 2 2024, 21:20) *

Intel stock price is going in a freefall.

Their response?


Intel has literally had problems since they made all the executives be MBAs and Marketing and pushed out all the engineers. AMD started making a come back when they did the reverse. Jensen at Nvidia is an engineer.

eg Intel were the first to start working on AI acceleration hardware and the last to bring it to market due to poor management.

In that case the marketeers had retarded strategies like splitting the development teams, making them work on competing products and against each other then being surprised when they ended up with delays and poor results.

In other cases they had bizarre management practices like insisting that hardware have a 30-50% profit margin. You can only maintain those margins during the early and developing phases of a market / technology. As a result they would dominate markets but then cut investment and development and then slowly fall behind everyone.

In the case of the SSD market, they should by all rights be the number 1 competitor but stupid practices cost them the consumer segment first and then much of the enterprise and data center markets.



edit: Lol wow, they are trying to discourage people from doing an RMA by not guaranteeing it will be from the same product sku that might be from a random generation or possibly lower in the product line from a newer generation and might not be compatible with your current mobo.... They are offering a refund though if you have all your original paper work.

If you need it for work its a pain in the butt.

They do offer cross shipping, so you buy a new CPU from them, but you only get the refund credit when you send the new CPU in and its deemed as eligible as a refund return.



edit: I couldn't work out which version of Neon Genesis Evangelion to buy (previously owned VHS, DVDs, and Directors Cut). I ended up getting the pirated version of one of the latest release.

-VHS Manga Entertainment: Shit quality, washed out colors, gray blacks, low resolution.
-Madman / ADV DVD release: Based on VHS masters - so disappointing.
-Directors Cut DVD: Slightly higher resolution, deeper colors but much darker.

-Netflix 2019 Rescan: Higher resolution, they redubed certain things and cut out certain things apparently. I did not watch much of it.

-Latest Renewal Rescan from 2022/23: Looks great, its a bluray but super resolution like 1440 x 1080. Color looks wild, and looks like it might have HDR or maybe just maxing the range on bluray? The flashes look legitimately bright, and some neons look super neon. The only problem was people are raging that they went heavy with the DNR which removed a lot of film grain from most scenes. The previous 960 x 720 bluray preserved the film grain. Also all new versions only have directors cut extended scenes for 21-24 because Gainax lost some of the directors cut masters for earlier episodes.

Edit2: NGE was filmed on 16mm, which means with current technology maxing out the rescan, DNR processing and remastering, 1440x1080 is the absolute maximum and pushing it at that. 35mm can max out with current tech at 4k. So there will never be a Evanglion series 4k unless they us AI up-scaling and is probably pointless. With Gainax losing some of the original masters, this is probably the best quality possible.

I was going to buy the latest release but its confusing AF over which is the best version, and which version is in what box set...

I would say this is the version that is the first that matches the promotional high res scans that were on the back of some previous releases. The back of the box images always looked amazing, it was false advertising so many times.

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post Aug 5 2024, 09:32
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I've got most of the laserdiscs and that's it. Probably the VHS master. But Japanese domestic.
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post Aug 5 2024, 12:10
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QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ Aug 4 2024, 21:32) *

I've got most of the laserdiscs and that's it. Probably the VHS master. But Japanese domestic.



I feel like 4k UHDs are getting the Laserdisc treatment. Where they have the high end special editions that cost a mint and are limited and then standard editions which are cheaper.

Its like they are farming the collectors.


Also some people are saying Intel processors 13th / 14th gen degrade >65W.

65W is nothing for total package power.
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post Aug 5 2024, 21:21
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lol, the tdp on my 2012 CPU is 69W
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post Aug 6 2024, 00:55
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QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ Aug 5 2024, 09:21) *

lol, the tdp on my 2012 CPU is 69W



The package voltages have gotten really stupid, especially on high end parts. like 200-400w is possible.
I looked it up, with the unrestricted power setting that is auto on some mobos, a 14900k can pull up 622W. In spec it is supposed to go up to 253W. 622W peak is probably not sustained power draw but is quite hectic. When run at in spec voltages techpowerup got 92% average performance, so they are pumping potentially up to double power to get 8% more performance?


Laptops are still sane though, but they get the chips binned for efficiency usually.


edit: I suppose its a bit like my graphics card, it was pulling 380w, a little underclocking and I get 95% performance and it now pulls 220w.

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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 4 2024, 23:09) *
Lol wow, they are trying to discourage people from doing an RMA by not guaranteeing it will be from the same product sku that might be from a random generation or possibly lower in the product line from a newer generation and might not be compatible with your current mobo.... They are offering a refund though if you have all your original paper work.
Everyone fucks up at some point, so that's really the big elephant in my eyes. My main problem with Intel is how they "address" the problem.

AMD has QC issues from time to time (arguably much worse than Intel) but their responses aren't this fucking atrocious.
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post Aug 6 2024, 11:43
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QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Aug 5 2024, 19:32) *

Everyone fucks up at some point, so that's really the big elephant in my eyes. My main problem with Intel is how they "address" the problem.


It seems their policy very much depends on the distribution channel you purchased the processor from. If you bought through a brick and mortar the return process seems fairly easy through them, but through online sellers, even Amazon, it can be chaotic.

Though the RMA rate through retailers is sitting around 5-7% (4x the normal rate), the issue is that its a bit of a slow burn problem where its generating instability. People might not think its the CPU as for a decade or so CPUs have been the last problem.


The last time I had a CPU burnout was 1997?
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Let's hope the microcode gig actually puts an end to this and not just another damage control dance show.

(I don't have my hopes up)

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post Aug 6 2024, 18:11
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I don't have any issues at all, but i thought about trying to return my cpu and just buying the equivalent Zen5 cpu with the money. The resell value of my cpu probably dropped quite a bit.
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post Aug 6 2024, 18:52
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No one would dare to touch the used market of 13th/14th gen that's for sure.
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I knew epyc had one of the bigger footprints but seeing it in person is almost comedy. the thing is like 3 times the size of a regular cpu.
I wish it kept going this way and we'd have had hotplate sized ones by now, imagine the cooling surface
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in other quality news one memory slot refuses to show up on my amazing bargain supermicro board even though theres no visible damage to the slot or dust, so I guess its going to be another odd numbered memory setup

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