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post May 1 2024, 19:45
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amazing, a tiny piece of overbranded cable
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post May 2 2024, 03:32
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ May 1 2024, 07:45) *

amazing, a tiny piece of overbranded cable


Noctua has an impressive line up of these small adapters and different fittings etc, its great when they are 'free' but can be expensive when bought separately.


Noctua's price premium has also opened up room for competitors. The thermalright phantom spirit 120, beats or matches a few of their products even with noise adjusted performance for 50-75% of the price. You won't get the same warranty or product support but if its half the price you can buy a new one if there is an issue.
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post May 2 2024, 06:37
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AirAsia "hates" the web browser for whatever reason. Or maybe just Firefox derivatives of browsers.
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post May 2 2024, 09:55
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By Dijkstra's observation, a majority of software experts found joy in the "black magic" of constructing software without being able to fully comprehend their facilitations, in fact joyous that they could not understand if. He said it spoke to an inherent human urge to desire black magic, which was otherwise lacking in the modern sterilized world.

Is it such a surprise that after generations of this development and the introduction of both the market and (subsequently) the common man to technology that the conversation underlying black magic eclipses everything else about technology?
yes because nothing is sacred and we shouldn't try to make things sacred

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Wait, do motherboards actually still use "proprietary fan connectors?"

Oh never mind, I get it. It's for non-PC uses.

I have a soldering iron and heat shrink tubes for things like that.
Aren't Scotchlok™ connectors from the 1960's or 1970's?

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post May 2 2024, 10:16
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yes because nothing is sacred and we shouldn't try to make things sacred

Wait, do motherboards actually still use "proprietary fan connectors?"

Oh never mind, I get it. It's for non-PC uses.

I have a soldering iron and heat shrink tubes for things like that.
Aren't Scotchlok™ connectors from the 1960's or 1970's?

In my case it was for a PSU, not a motherboard. The fan was directly connected to the pcb and i didn't want to bother with that, so i just used the adapter and connected it to the fan header on the motherboard. I'm sure they are still a thing on dell and HP hardware..

Also yea Scotchlok connectors are nothing new, but its nice to have it included with everything else you need, its part of the premium with noctua.

IIRC their "redux" fans are the same or similar quality, just without all the fancy packaging and accessories.
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post May 2 2024, 14:50
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Kemono fanbox importer revived. I wonder if it's just the importer being fucky wucky or fanbox actively patching shit to prevent people from downloading stuff.
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post May 2 2024, 14:51
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Kemono fanbox importer revived. I wonder if it's just the importer being fucky wucky or fanbox actively patching shit to prevent people from downloading stuff.

i read something about them running out of space
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post May 2 2024, 19:25
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QUOTE(-terry- @ May 2 2024, 20:51) *

i read something about them running out of space

If that's true, it would be a rather funny, and dumb, cause considering storage is dirt cheap these days.
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post May 7 2024, 00:59
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People were giving AMD shit for their latest processors not having the voltage headroom of previous generations... but now Intel 12/13 gen are starting to fail for the same reason.

The problem is that they had a fairly standard safe headroom limit on previous gens, and mobo manufacturers were pushing voltages to that old limit but on smaller nodes there is far lower headroom.

AMD forced vendors to patch it a while back because chips were burning out near launch. Intel did not immediately have the issue so it was left unpatched for much longer and causing more chips to fail prematurely.

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post May 9 2024, 13:52
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People were giving AMD shit for their latest processors not having the voltage headroom of previous generations... but now Intel 12/13 gen are starting to fail for the same reason.

The problem is that they had a fairly standard safe headroom limit on previous gens, and mobo manufacturers were pushing voltages to that old limit but on smaller nodes there is far lower headroom.

AMD forced vendors to patch it a while back because chips were burning out near launch. Intel did not immediately have the issue so it was left unpatched for much longer and causing more chips to fail prematurely.
what mainly causes these things? I see people complaining about kiling new stuff left and right. is it just higher thermal load these days or the smaller transistor scale its on?
I have some highly abused amd stuff from early 2012 and even with overclocks it always seemed to hold up pretty solid. I know even earlier stuff tended to get a bit thermonuclear but when they stopped doing that it was fine for a while. but now it seems we're on a downhill of longevity again
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post May 9 2024, 22:20
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post May 10 2024, 04:18
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Shitple's new ad is so tonedeaf I can't believe someone actually greenlit it.
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post May 10 2024, 14:54
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QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ May 10 2024, 04:18) *

Shitple's new ad is so tonedeaf I can't believe someone actually greenlit it.
saw some drama about it but I really dont see the big issue, it isnt as horrible as the "whats a computer" one by any stretch. that said I wouldve personally liked it more if they just crushed a bunch of previous gen ipads and then said 'the most powerful and flattest one yet'
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post May 11 2024, 07:03
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what mainly causes these things? I see people complaining about kiling new stuff left and right. is it just higher thermal load these days or the smaller transistor scale its on?
I have some highly abused amd stuff from early 2012 and even with overclocks it always seemed to hold up pretty solid. I know even earlier stuff tended to get a bit thermonuclear but when they stopped doing that it was fine for a while. but now it seems we're on a downhill of longevity again


AMD and Intel CPUs algorithmically guesstimate the thermal / power window applicable to a particular CPU to push the performance window on the parts.

Some of the mobo manufacturers are pushing the voltages and limiters on default settings so they get better reviews.

When the AMD parts were burning out, and appears to be the case for Intel that the combo of the release micro-code, the hardware and the mobo bios settings is that chips can be pushed too hard with high voltages or voltage swings.


So if you get a new CPU and make sure all the voltage are the correct in spec defaults, it will probably be fine. Though Ryzen master from within windows was not misbehaving at one point.


TLDR: The cpu manufacturers and the mobo vendors are removing the limiters and relying on the algorithmic guestimations to set voltages and then pointing their fingers at each other when something goes wrong.



edit: Also now Asus has joined Samsung with sketchy RMA practices... seemingly damaging products or finding minor faults inorder to claim warranty is voided.

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post May 12 2024, 16:50
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once again i get to act smug about people with shiny new stuff syndrome
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post May 13 2024, 04:06
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QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ May 12 2024, 04:50) *

once again i get to act smug about people with shiny new stuff syndrome


Old stuff was far more likely to fail, but... I suppose in many cases possible to repair.

The issue is when manufacturers are making things difficult or impossible to repair.


Also when they make weird design choices. Like the 4090 has so many failure modes... and is their super 'premium' (overpriced) product.

-Power connector melting due to poor design
-PCI-E slot design problems (connector snapping)
-Board warping and chip needing re-soldering / reballing (thermal warping AND heatsink weight warping)
- VRM issues from some vendors



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Internet plan speeds are starting to come down in price here.. sort of. They made the lowest plans more expensive with less upload (25/10 mbps, $65 month) and brought down the top plan (1000/50 $120 monthly).

As the plans go up they are drip feeding upload speed. To get 1000/1000 is still like $2000 a month.

They offering to 'upgrade' me from 100/40 to 250/20. Seems upload costs way more than download in the current pricing. Also what they don't tell you is the massive shaping that occurs. Without a VPN I often get 1/3 that max speed on youtube / torrents / streaming. I had relatives on a 500/20 plan that downloaded slower than my plan because of the extreme shaping.

Whats the point of paying more if they are going to shape it so hard?


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They added a new 'fair use' policy pfft. Heavy users during peak will get harsher differential shaping now, they can buttrape your connection down to 3mbps. For wireless they have guidelines but for fixed they say there is a fair use guideline but there is no set metric anywhere. They are talking about starting to go after vpn traffic now too.





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post May 14 2024, 21:03
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Internet plan speeds are starting to come down in price here.. sort of. They made the lowest plans more expensive with less upload (25/10 mbps, $65 month) and brought down the top plan (1000/50 $120 monthly).

As the plans go up they are drip feeding upload speed. To get 1000/1000 is still like $2000 a month.

They offering to 'upgrade' me from 100/40 to 250/20. Seems upload costs way more than download in the current pricing. Also what they don't tell you is the massive shaping that occurs. Without a VPN I often get 1/3 that max speed on youtube / torrents / streaming. I had relatives on a 500/20 plan that downloaded slower than my plan because of the extreme shaping.
this all seems absolutely criminal, what remote area are you in that its that horribly priced? do they have to pull the fiber lines still for you to get 1000/1000 or something? even then $2000 seems excessive, to say the least. (I pay 45/month atm for such, not to brag but as reference). I've heard horrors from other american friends in copper only zones but never that bad

in thoughts, slightly related to the 'joy' of ever repairable old technology. my central gas heater experience of the week:
- no more hot water
- fault code 6A, burner fault, I've had it before when it was just the ignition electrodes
- check those, half gone, order some new ones (-35 bux)
- replace them, still not working, check further, main gas valve block has a melted coil on it (-105 bux)
currently waiting on that to see if thats the end of it.
in a non technology related note: cold showers are cold

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this all seems absolutely criminal, what remote area are you in that its that horribly priced? do they have to pull the fiber lines still for you to get 1000/1000 or something? even then $2000 seems excessive, to say the least. (I pay 45/month atm for such, not to brag but as reference). I've heard horrors from other american friends in copper only zones but never that bad

in thoughts, slightly related to the 'joy' of ever repairable old technology. my central gas heater experience of the week:
- no more hot water
- fault code 6A, burner fault, I've had it before when it was just the ignition electrodes
- check those, half gone, order some new ones (-35 bux)
- replace them, still not working, check further, main gas valve block has a melted coil on it (-105 bux)
currently waiting on that to see if thats the end of it.
in a non technology related note: cold showers are cold



my bad, they brought the price down for 1000/1000, its now $700 per month. Yay!

The government classes symmetrical connections as enterprise grade, and the price goes way up.

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post May 15 2024, 19:20
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 15 2024, 07:46) *

my bad, they brought the price down for 1000/1000, its now $700 per month. Yay!

The government classes symmetrical connections as enterprise grade, and the price goes way up.
great business model, otherwise diabolical
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post May 16 2024, 18:26
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ May 14 2024, 21:03) *

- replace them, still not working, check further, main gas valve block has a melted coil on it (-105 bux)
currently waiting on that to see if thats the end of it.
the main gas valve replacement ended up fixing it, came with all the orings for the conections too. kinda happy I replaced it now after seeing all the old orings around this crumble into dust on replacing them.
in summary, the carnage on my 'free' 2006 heater,pictured what was left of ignition electrode and the burned out coil on valve
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I am once again in the age of warm water, heating, and hot showers

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