QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 13 2022, 23:02)

Macbooks use chips that are known to fail reliability. I think the issue with the Surface Pros was that they had too many failure modes and were more difficult to repair. For a while many companies adopted them due to aggressive pricing of leases but most companies have banned them now as the IT service costs are not worth it.
Yeah, pretty much.
IT at my company will get surfaces, but only for IT staff members that want them; everyone else gets Dell Latitudes because otherwise the costs would be too great.
Pretty much repeating what you said, but you are far more likely to break a surface when servicing it to replace the battery than you would if you were working on a Macbook, even if you're a professional who does it daily.
Even Apple will actually replace a battery if it fails and you pay their exorbitant fees; Microsoft won't replace surface batteries at any price point. They'd rather sell you a new Surface. I hate to say it, but Apple makes the better computers in this comparison.
DISCLAIMER
I have not worked on an M1 laptop yet. My newest Apple experience was with a macbook air from around 2017. And their keyboards DO suck, but at least it is physically possible to replace them with enough money.
Also the surface line has batteries that swell like balloons; Some even run heat ducting above or below the LiPo battery (along its faces).
Surface devices are designed to fail.
And the consumers love them.
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BTW, as you probably figured out already, I hate Apple hardware products. I just hate Microsoft hardware products more. Even their nice ones. For nice ones, I can only think of the Microsoft Trackball Explorer, which has been discontinued for over a decade but was ergonomically great. it wore down at a rapid pace and was not designed to be repairable once the bearings got worn flat and the trackball started sticking. Thus, new MTE's are approaching half a thousand dollars now, when they retailed for $20.
Their natural keyboard line had a good layout for the first iteration, but felt like shit to type on, and all future revisions regressed from the great initial design/form factor/layout while not improving on anything else except adding USB versions.
The Microsoft Intellimouse with the wheel was a good invention; it was so long ago now that the Obama's inauguration was closer to it than present day. Ditto for the natural keyboard, only Obama's inauguration is equally close to it as present day.
Notice how none of those "good" hardware products were made after Bill Gates left. Their hardware declined alongside the rise of their shitty modern software development practices. And even those had some major problems compromising their potential.
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Thought: It's great that I don't have to write a goddamn systemd daemon in order to run hdparm at boot on my machine (SysV init; written in /etc/rc.local to disable HDD spindown on all rotating disks).
CODE
for hddnode in /dev/sd[a-z]; do
DRIVE=`echo "$hddnode" |sed 's!.*/!!'`
DRIVETEST='/sys/block/'"$DRIVE"'/queue/rotational'
if [ -e $DRIVETEST ]; then
ROTATIONAL=`cat "$DRIVETEST"`
if [ $ROTATIONAL -eq 1 ]; then
# -q: suppress '-S' output text unless errors occur
/sbin/hdparm -q -S 0 "$hddnode"
fi
fi
done || /bin/true
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jul 14 2022, 02:10