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Dec 8 2021, 13:04
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EsotericSatire
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Nvidia just relaunched the 2060 wooooo.
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Dec 8 2021, 15:35
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 8 2021, 06:04)  Nvidia just relaunched the 2060 wooooo. How's it priced compared to before? And is it actually using the same chip as before? Or is it like the 750 where there's maybe three different chips it could be? This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 8 2021, 15:35
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Dec 8 2021, 23:40
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 8 2021, 03:35)  How's it priced compared to before?
And is it actually using the same chip as before? Or is it like the 750 where there's maybe three different chips it could be?
Its really bleh. I think the launch price is $560 (higher than original launch price), it has 12gb ram but they used the original 2060 chip not the 2060 super chip for some reason (probably yield?)
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Dec 9 2021, 03:18
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RepStormy
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 8 2021, 15:40)  Its really bleh. I think the launch price is $560 (higher than original launch price), it has 12gb ram but they used the original 2060 chip not the 2060 super chip for some reason (probably yield?)
Possibly mining, since mining depends more on the RAM of the graphics card, causing the chip to remain in the background
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Dec 9 2021, 08:48
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Moonlight Rambler
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I think I just fixed a double-free bug in a graphical C program I wrote, but it's that frustrating thing where you feel like if you just do it another 50 times you'll get it to crash again.
I think I figured out how it was happening, but I'm still not really sure where my logic was wrong. By commenting out one free() i seem to have stopped the crashing but I feel like I'm probably leaking memory now.
If graphical toolkits didn't all seem to have their own memory leaks it'd be a lot easier to use valgrind to figure out.
I'm using FLTK, though, so I am confident there are fewer leaks than there could have been if I'd gone GTK.
Still, this thing starts up and does its job exponentially faster than the Python program I was using before. I hope it works out. And if it does end up having a memory leak, this thing is at least small enough and operates over such short time spans that it could be worse.
Still irritating, though. It hurts my pride.
Also, I think it was string handling I messed up, rather than anything truly GUI related. though I can't say that for certain. I do a lot of string manipulation with strcpy and strcat.
It's a program that I launch from mcomix that spawns a file selector dialog that I tell the program to create a link to the file i'm looking at in a given directory. It remembers the last directory I used, so that it can be done more quickly on small batches of sequential images.
This new version even resizes properly, unlike the GTK one. I really like most of the FLTK API design choices.
I hope they officially release 4.x soon. That's supposed to have better UTF-8 support. In the current version I had to make it use a CJK font everywhere to get it to render filenames properly. The new version purportedly will fall back on other fonts to make everything readable.
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Dec 9 2021, 10:29
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My air cooler, that I was using to heat the room because it's more effective and customizable than the default system, had whatever was blowing the air dying, and producing a smell of melting something (rubber?plastic?). Damn it, microwave, fridge, air cooler, everything is going down.........vacuum cleaner, please don't jump on the bandwagon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Dec 9 2021, 22:08
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cate_chan
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QUOTE(uareader @ Dec 9 2021, 10:29)  Damn it, microwave, fridge, air cooler, everything is going down.........vacuum cleaner, please don't jump on the bandwagon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) for me generally electornics tend to die in groups of 3 another thought slightly related ot electronics dying. had to be reachable on whatsapp again for work and some other personal life stuff. which caused me to decide to leave my main phone (nokia e72) behind in favor of the generic up to date smartphone I was using for work (samsung m11). and man, do I hate modern phone tech. everything feels so slow and inefficient with these stupid animations and lack of menus (where the hell did the dedicated options key go????). then the camera is in the screen so I cant even easily tape it off, theres no buttons for system anymore besides the power and volume keys, its all edge to edge glass which feels fragile and slippery to deal with... in a slight beacon of hope theres at least the power saving mode which locks the phone to only a few apps and a minimum amount of swipery nonsense when you max out the settings, but it still feels awful to use. and if that wasnt bad enough its also far too big to operate efficiently with one hand. and even if it was smaller all the ui expects swipes from the edge (again where the hell did my buttons go) am I just too out of touch at this point, how did we get to a point where this nonsense of a pocket computer format is the norm. I could go on too about all the inconviniences this 'modern' technology is imosing on me, its honestly a genuinly awful experience
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Dec 10 2021, 02:25
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Moonlight Rambler
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I just ESD-paralyzed my wlan card. Got shocked by the laptop somehow while unlatching the lid; probably because the lid's metallic? There was a layer of rubberized coating on it though so I don't really know. Anyway, after that the wlan card immediately died. Worked again after a reboot, thankfully.
Maybe it was a plastic discharge; the lid unlock switch is plastic and the laptop dock was sliding on a plastic surface (rubber feet are all gone).
Anyway, I guess that's a sign that winter is here.
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Dec 10 2021, 18:56
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These Bose QC earbuds need a different app than the headphones, but the app does let me change all the settings about the touch (swiping up/down to adjust volume, and configurable shortcut from holding both need setup in app). You can tweak the behavior on removing one, though I find the defaults there to be quite functional- pause audio stream and turn off noise cancelling. Putting it back in unpauses and goes to prior cancelling level.
The battery life is lackluster at 6hr and it turns out you need the case to pair them. Once they're on and paired to the phone, you don't need the case to keep listening. I think the case provides 2 full recharges. Case has USB-C though, so that means I need a special cable just for it. In practice I don't see that being a huge issue, but I do see a 4 pack of Micro USB to USB C adapters on amazon for cheap, and I can clip em to charging cables.
The audio quality and noise cancelling are both excellent- I think the cancelling is better than the QC35 headphones. Comfortable to wear for hours without fiddling with them, and just the deafult tips fit my ears well. No issues with em wiggling around or popping out. Taking a mask on and off doesn't snag on them.
Overall happy with em, but it'd still be a hard sale if they were MSRP instead of $100 off.
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Dec 10 2021, 22:33
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cate_chan
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 10 2021, 02:25)  I just ESD-paralyzed my wlan card. Got shocked by the laptop somehow while unlatching the lid; probably because the lid's metallic? There was a layer of rubberized coating on it though so I don't really know. Anyway, after that the wlan card immediately died. Worked again after a reboot, thankfully.
I've started to assume somewhat modern electronics were shock proof with how much has survived on my carpet, doesnt everything have some form of faraday cage built in nowadays to not be bothered by shocks? bit worrying to know electronics still care, almost makes me want to not disassemble stuff on my carpet while wearing socks
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Dec 11 2021, 09:03
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Dec 9 2021, 15:08)  for me generally electornics tend to die in groups of 3
another thought slightly related ot electronics dying. had to be reachable on whatsapp again for work and some other personal life stuff. which caused me to decide to leave my main phone (nokia e72) behind in favor of the generic up to date smartphone I was using for work (samsung m11). and man, do I hate modern phone tech. everything feels so slow and inefficient with these stupid animations and lack of menus (where the hell did the dedicated options key go????). then the camera is in the screen so I cant even easily tape it off, theres no buttons for system anymore besides the power and volume keys, its all edge to edge glass which feels fragile and slippery to deal with... in a slight beacon of hope theres at least the power saving mode which locks the phone to only a few apps and a minimum amount of swipery nonsense when you max out the settings, but it still feels awful to use. and if that wasnt bad enough its also far too big to operate efficiently with one hand. and even if it was smaller all the ui expects swipes from the edge (again where the hell did my buttons go)
am I just too out of touch at this point, how did we get to a point where this nonsense of a pocket computer format is the norm. I could go on too about all the inconviniences this 'modern' technology is imosing on me, its honestly a genuinly awful experience
I disabled the animations on my android phone at least. I think I did it via ADB. Could have been the 'developer' menu. Also made everything way smaller by tweaking the DPI. I hate a lot of it too, though. You have my sympathy. Oh yeah I also re-enabled the buttons, not sure how many more android versions til they remove that but there's some really obscure/hard to remember ADB command for it. I love my desktop though, don't think I've changed anything except the wallpaper in my FVWM config for months now. [ i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/Pnjxufqg.png) Edit: I was able to link C. Wright Mills (famous sociologist, talked about alienation and how people were coming to measure success as the level of consumption) into a paper I wrote about beta tests that people pay companies to be a part of. Basically people are paying to belong to a small clique of people who can afford to buy Google Glass or whatnot, for the sense of belonging to something in a world where businesses and colleagues are not approachable. I'm pretty pleased with myself. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 11 2021, 19:14
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Dec 11 2021, 23:51
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cate_chan
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 11 2021, 09:03)  I love my desktop though, don't think I've changed anything except the wallpaper in my FVWM config for months now.
very aesthetic, I love the linux experience where you can setup something however you like and then just keep using it throughout the years, dont think I've touched much of my core setup for years now. though recently firefox has started failing to correctly play back 60 fps youtube content, and youtube-dl is awfully slow for some reason so thats not helping me much either. besides that everything just works while keeping the look and function I've grown used to, pure heaven when coming home from windows software development and it support day job
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Dec 12 2021, 01:22
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Dec 11 2021, 16:51)  very aesthetic, I love the linux experience where you can setup something however you like and then just keep using it throughout the years, dont think I've touched much of my core setup for years now. I actually have the same basic setup on an OpenBSD laptop with 32MB RAM. Just using an older release of FVWM because the license got changed to GPL at some point. QUOTE recently firefox has started failing to correctly play back 60 fps youtube content, and youtube-dl is awfully slow for some reason so thats not helping me much either. OK, I have the same problem with firefox, so my one suggestion is to try turning OFF your compositor. For some reason that gets me up to speed sometimes. Really frustrating. Or use seamonkey; for now seamonkey can still do it at full speed. As for youtube-dl throttling, I do know why that is. Google sabotage. There's [ github.com] this pull request that aims to fix it, as well as a fork of youtube-dl that I've seen people peddling recently. The fork has a hacky workaround that might break at any time but currently seems to function by reporting an Android client. yt-dlp is the name of that fork. QUOTE besides that everything just works while keeping the look and function I've grown used to, pure heaven when coming home from windows software development and it support day job I can't function without Cygwin on Windows anymore. And the window management is supremely frustrating. Got interviewed for a job programming embedded electronics the other day, so if I get that I know for sure it's going to be 99.99% windows-based work. Terrible. I just put a PS/2 to USB adapter that I disassembled years ago back together. I've not since found an adapter that's as reliable and compatible as it is. Those "blue cube" adapters (Tangtop) that people all recommend work fine for IBM boards, but fail horribly on some off-brand AT keyboards I have. The Monoprice/Belkin/Staples/Chesen electronics PS/2 USB adapters reset themselves constantly and get put in weird undefined states, but otherwise do not seem to utterly fail with any boards. The only one I've had that I've yet to see fail with anything was something I bought from RadioShack years ago; it reports itself as a "Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. PS/2 keyboard + mouse controller." It's been sitting in the bottom of a toolbox for at least six years, but I soldered new USB connector and PS/2 connector to it (I had cannibalized it before) and it sprung back to life. The one janky thing is that I am using a USB A female connector on the USB side of the adapter, so it now needs a USB A-to-A cable to function. Thankfully I have two of those (I got one to flash firmware to a Gotek floppy emulator, and the other one came with that Unicomp Model M board I bought in June (or I think it was June). As to why I chose a female USB A connector, it's because it is the only USB connector I could find in my miscellaneous parts bin. And it's way better than micro USB. Thought: "Liquid electrical tape" is cool stuff. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 12 2021, 01:37
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Dec 12 2021, 08:29
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EsotericSatire
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GOG is dying in a large part because CD Projekt red keeps dumping money into titles and activities to try to expand the revenue of GOG that keep failing. Like GWENT.
They are not going to get all the AAA titles DRM free day one. They were making money on their core business.
CD Projekt Red's management seems to being trying to turn into EA or something.
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Dec 12 2021, 09:02
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Moonlight Rambler
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I've been messing around with building UI's in FLTK again; it's really nice.
Also nice, the there's two options for file chooser dialogs: a "Native File Chooser" function and one specific to FLTK. Both are nice, but the really nice thing is that with the "native" chooser function, it looks for GTK2 before checking for GTK3 on Unix/X11 machines. Which is as it should be; the GTK3 file picker is terrible.
I have a preprocessor flag I can set at build time to decide whether to use the "native" chooser or not. I can't decide if I like the FLTK one more; it does have a preview pane, which is handy, but lacks some of the sorting options.
Moving to C/FLTK from Python/GTK3, my little program's startup time has gone from 3-5 seconds on a cold boot to near instantaneous. It's great.
Oh, and unlike the dumb GTK3/Python program, this one has dialogs that resize properly as well.
Technically, FLTK is C++, but you don't really have to write much C++ at all to use FLTK; most everything works as if it were plain C. It's sort of like how the windows API is "C++" but really isn't. I say this because I can use WinAPI and FLTK and I have never designed a single object before; the only features I remember C++ has are "cout" and "objects," but I otherwise have almost no exposure to it beyond reading others' code.
If I ever get really ambitious, it could be interesting to write an mcomix-like program in FLTK. It'd probably perform better on account of being C and also because it's apparently pretty easy to integrate OpenGL into. Enough so that I fixed a performance bug in an emulator using FLTK+OpenGL with zero prior OpenGL experience.
Other notes on FLTK:
Version 1.3.5, in Debian, is out of date, and also does not work properly with X input methods (I use SCIM/Anthy for Japanese input, for instance). It also lacks support for "fallback fonts" for characters not in the default font. But 1.3.6 fixes input methods, and 1.4.x (development version) supports font fallbacks (I think this is through Pango, though, for better or worse). Also, FLTK can be statically linked to programs, which is nice.
I'm using the 1.4.x development version; development has stopped on the 1.3.x series as of a couple weeks ago with the 1.3.8 release.
Anyway I highly recommend it; it's made GUI programming (while still a bit awkward) no longer soul destroyingly painful to think about. The example code in the FLTK source distribution (as well as the official documentation) are extremely useful.
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Dec 12 2021, 13:38
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cate_chan
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 12 2021, 01:22)  OK, I have the same problem with firefox, so my one suggestion is to try turning OFF your compositor. For some reason that gets me up to speed sometimes. Really frustrating.
I guess its good I'm not the only one, somehow I have less issues on thinkpad related to it, even though firefox setup is the same. just doesnt have an nvidia card unlike desktop. and sadly enough I already dont use a compositor so not much to do there. QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 12 2021, 01:22)  Or use seamonkey; for now seamonkey can still do it at full speed.
after a long time of saying the firefox forks dont work out for me I'm now seriously considering it again with how broken this experience is. QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 12 2021, 01:22)  As for youtube-dl throttling, I do know why that is. Google sabotage. There's [ github.com] this pull request that aims to fix it, as well as a fork of youtube-dl that I've seen people peddling recently. The fork has a hacky workaround that might break at any time but currently seems to function by reporting an Android client. yt-dlp is the name of that fork. great... I'll try some of the forks I've been avoiding I guess EDIT: yt-dlp solves my isssues, just integrates with mpv as well so I can pretend everything works as it used to cheers as always for the detailed answers QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 12 2021, 01:22)  I can't function without Cygwin on Windows anymore. And the window management is supremely frustrating. Got interviewed for a job programming embedded electronics the other day, so if I get that I know for sure it's going to be 99.99% windows-based work. Terrible.
at least with embedded related work you get to mess with old technology and hardware inbetween to distract you from the horrors of windows, and its almost impossible to not run into some linux related thing. which you can then slowly become the main maintainer of as people realize you're familiar with it. thoughts: the time has finally come where I have a need for one of the wifi interfacing microcontrollers, not sure if I should go with my regular goto (some small atmega) + esp board, or try to do everything on the esp board. the end goal is to just get some small octocoupler/relay board with wifi connectivity for all sorts of small automation usecases, but with my own made pcb to fit my needs This post has been edited by cate_chan: Dec 12 2021, 14:17
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Dec 12 2021, 18:49
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Dec 12 2021, 06:38)  I guess its good I'm not the only one, somehow I have less issues on thinkpad related to it, even though firefox setup is the same. just doesnt have an nvidia card unlike desktop. and sadly enough I already dont use a compositor so not much to do there.
Try these xorg.conf bits (top one for NVidia, bottom for i915): CODE Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0" # ForceFullCompositionPipeline appears to be the equivalent of "TearFree" on other drivers. # unfortunately it also causes retroarch to crap itself on 'fast forward' and # can potentially hang the desktop when using retroarch fast-forward. ...Other # than when using retroarch, though, it's really excellent. # Apparently, though, ForceCompositionPipeline (without the "Full") works pretty nicely however.
# this option can be set for one session via command line: # nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline=On }" # try it and ForceFullCompositionPipeline and see what works for you. Option "ForceCompositionPipeline" "on" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection or on i915: CODE Section "Device" Identifier "Intel" # Debian uses 'modesetting' by default these days which lacks TearFree option Driver "intel" # these following two options successfully eliminated tearing, but cause lag like hell when # using compton alongside an emulator. probably due to the sextuple buffering. Switch off compositor in such cases. Option "TripleBuffer" "true" Option "TearFree" "true" Option "DRI" "3" EndSection QUOTE after a long time of saying the firefox forks dont work out for me I'm now seriously considering it again with how broken this experience is. great... I'll try some of the forks I've been avoiding I guess Have fun. Seamonkey is best when you give it a ton of addons, btw. Classic Add-Ons Archive and Ublock Origin "Legacy" for starters. QUOTE EDIT: yt-dlp solves my isssues, just integrates with mpv as well so I can pretend everything works as it used to cheers as always for the detailed answers Glad to hear it. QUOTE at least with embedded related work you get to mess with old technology and hardware inbetween to distract you from the horrors of windows, and its almost impossible to not run into some linux related thing. which you can then slowly become the main maintainer of as people realize you're familiar with it. True. QUOTE thoughts: the time has finally come where I have a need for one of the wifi interfacing microcontrollers, not sure if I should go with my regular goto (some small atmega) + esp board, or try to do everything on the esp board. I'm still an atmega loyalist, but a lot of people seem to be moving to ARM chips these days. QUOTE the end goal is to just get some small octocoupler/relay board with wifi connectivity for all sorts of small automation usecases, but with my own made pcb to fit my needs I need something like that, but instead with a massive relay attached to it so I can turn my PC monitor off and on from my bed. It can only be turned off but not on via DDC. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 12 2021, 18:55
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Dec 12 2021, 19:36
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cate_chan
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 12 2021, 18:49)  Try these xorg.conf bits (top one for NVidia, bottom for i915): CODE Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0" # ForceFullCompositionPipeline appears to be the equivalent of "TearFree" on other drivers. # unfortunately it also causes retroarch to crap itself on 'fast forward' and # can potentially hang the desktop when using retroarch fast-forward. ...Other # than when using retroarch, though, it's really excellent. # Apparently, though, ForceCompositionPipeline (without the "Full") works pretty nicely however.
# this option can be set for one session via command line: # nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline=On }" # try it and ForceFullCompositionPipeline and see what works for you. Option "ForceCompositionPipeline" "on" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection some hope for this as the intel thinkpad where everything works 'better' does have the tearfree option set. forgot how much of a mess my .conf for nvidia was though, seems theres a lot of settings in "ServerLayout", and "Monitor", but then also some still in "Screen". and this little suspicious snippet: CODE Section "extensions" Option "Composite" "Disabled" EndSection
guess I'll try to just add it in the screen section and see if that works out better, for the time being firefox is behaving slightly better after moving to old but non 'legacy' drivers, and cleaning up firefox a bit
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Dec 13 2021, 09:54
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Dec 12 2021, 12:36)  some hope for this as the intel thinkpad where everything works 'better' does have the tearfree option set. forgot how much of a mess my .conf for nvidia was though, seems theres a lot of settings in "ServerLayout", and "Monitor", but then also some still in "Screen". and this little suspicious snippet: CODE Section "extensions" Option "Composite" "Disabled" EndSection
guess I'll try to just add it in the screen section and see if that works out better, for the time being firefox is behaving slightly better after moving to old but non 'legacy' drivers, and cleaning up firefox a bit Yeah, my nvidia X config is a disaster, too. Mostly to enable more resolutions since xrandr --newmode/--addmode doesn't fucking work on nvidia. Their documentation being buried so deep doesn't help either. I probably spent a couple hours a day for a few days looking for that stupid "ForceCompositionPipeline" option. Fuck nvidia. I don't plan on ever buying them again. Only bought my current card because at the time it was new, it was still the Stallman-approved™ brand, on account of Nouveau not being crippled yet. But I do distinctly remember him saying that nvidia was no friend of free software, and that it was just on account of how ridiculously locked it was that people had gotten motivated to make a free driver and firmware replacement. Nowadays, even Intel graphics drivers use firmware blobs. Yuck. Edit: top five lines of my xorg.conf on nvidia are CODE # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings # nvidia-settings: version 358.16 (buildmeister@swio-display-x64-rhel04-12) Mon Nov 16 19:58:01 PST 2015
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 358.16 (buildmeister@swio-display-x64-rhel04-12) Mon Nov 16 19:59:11 PST 2015 There's crap like that scattered throughout the file. Mostly because this file has been accumulating this crap since around November 2015 (which is when I moved from a 32-bit Debian install to a 64-bit one). This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 14 2021, 00:50
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Dec 13 2021, 22:57
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EsotericSatire
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Wow they are selling an updated PS4 with SSD for more than the RRP of the PS5 because nobody can get PS5s...
Seems legit.
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