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post Sep 6 2021, 21:11
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Sep 5 2021, 05:50) *

I just realized the Famicom will be 40 years old in two years.

It still feels ~20 years old to me. I mean, mine's still pearly white.

1983 was 18 years ago and I refuse to believe otherwise.
besides stuff from the 80s reaching 40 the worst for me is that '2040 is closer than 2000' stuff.
also for some reason everything made after 2000 remains seeming 'new' to me, like when I'm looking at second hand cars.

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Also, I feel like tech companies today are only slightly less invasive than this
if only they went through the effort of abducting me before screwing me over

thought/complaint, after finally getting a somewhat good deal on drive caddies I now see drive prices are still as high as ever.
especially if you want to pick up some new samsung ssds.
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pretty sure I bought this for 66 like years ago
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post Sep 6 2021, 22:56
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Sep 6 2021, 15:11) *
thought/complaint, after finally getting a somewhat good deal on drive caddies I now see drive prices are still as high as ever.
especially if you want to pick up some new samsung ssds.
pretty sure I bought this for 66 like years ago

I have a shoebox of laptop hard drives that I pull from when I need storage.

And yeah cars made from around 2000 onwards look the same, so I don't blame you there.

Building FF 91 now. Had to fix more retarded build system breakage this time around, we'll see if it works now or dies at the last minute.

Also had to re-apply the view image patches I've been using, but in about half of the places the 89 patch I made applied automatically so that was relatively fine.

They also changed how you disable add-on signing/verification, so I hope I'm doing that right in my mozconfig now. At least it's not looking like I'll have to update rustc this time.

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.PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
3628 user      20   0 8448380   6.5g 100820 S  99.7  41.8   5:34.65 rustc

while trying to build 'gkrust', whatever that is.
Last time it failed with a sigkill(!) somehow, guessing it ate up all the memory on my machine.

That's more memory than linking libxul with debug symbols used. And thanks to Rust, this build took 95 minutes (pre-rust, it took around 45).

Update: aand just running the build command again made it work. Typical modern Mozilla.

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post Sep 7 2021, 01:45
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Sep 6 2021, 14:11) *

pretty sure I bought this for 66 like years ago


If you take into account inflation, it can be said that it was under about 0.5/1.5 dollars

And well, if you have the money and if your motherboard allows the NVMe standard (that or find a decent NVMe to PCIe), its better to go to an M.2
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post Sep 7 2021, 02:13
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QUOTE(RepStormy @ Sep 6 2021, 19:45) *
If you take into account inflation, it can be said that it was under about 0.5/1.5 dollars

And well, if you have the money and if your motherboard allows the NVMe standard (that or find a decent NVMe to PCIe), its better to go to an M.2
It looks like you haven't been paying attention to the context. Cate chan bought a rack mount server from around 2011 or 2012.
Cate chan knows what they're talking about. You don't have to tell them stuff like that.
Also I am proud to not own a single M.2-capable machine.

Thought:
Might be fun to forge telemetry packets to send to Mozilla. Then we could mess with their precious data collection without actually violating our personal privacy.
[firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org] Overview of telemetry stuff
[firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org] Main useful looking bits to forge (experiments)
[firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org] Common ping structure

[firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org] https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/too...zing/index.html
"Note that not all fuzzing tools used at Mozilla are open source. Some tools are for internal use only because they can easily find critical security vulnerabilities."
Lol. Security through obscurity; that's always what I want to see.

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post Sep 7 2021, 20:57
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Sep 6 2021, 22:56) *

Building FF 91 now. Had to fix more retarded build system breakage this time around, we'll see if it works now or dies at the last minute.

Also had to re-apply the view image patches I've been using, but in about half of the places the 89 patch I made applied automatically so that was relatively fine.

They also changed how you disable add-on signing/verification, so I hope I'm doing that right in my mozconfig now. At least it's not looking like I'll have to update rustc this time.

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.PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
3628 user      20   0 8448380   6.5g 100820 S  99.7  41.8   5:34.65 rustc

while trying to build 'gkrust', whatever that is.
Last time it failed with a sigkill(!) somehow, guessing it ate up all the memory on my machine.

That's more memory than linking libxul with debug symbols used. And thanks to Rust, this build took 95 minutes (pre-rust, it took around 45).

Update: aand just running the build command again made it work. Typical modern Mozilla.
I see the firefox building experience is still the same, when I was doing that regularly they also kept moving more things to rust for no reason, making the build process a bit worse each time.
still havent updated for a while (on 90.0 atm), even though I wont have to put up with building it still dreading having to manually undo the proton ui.
and god knows what other settings they switched, if they ever remove the webrender disable options I just straight up cant use it anymore with this hardware.

QUOTE(RepStormy @ Sep 7 2021, 01:45) *

If you take into account inflation, it can be said that it was under about 0.5/1.5 dollars

And well, if you have the money and if your motherboard allows the NVMe standard (that or find a decent NVMe to PCIe), its better to go to an M.2
I'd agree with the inflation part more if I was also making more money than I was at that time, its more that I'm annoyed its not going down more like it was up until the recent pandemic shortages than I'm complaining about the slight increase.
and I do indeed have no use for NVMe or any formfactor of PCIe drives as I'm trying to fill up some slots of that rack server.
probably going to try to get some used hdds for the big storage raid but I'd prefer proxmox to live on its own ssd raid.

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post Sep 7 2021, 21:01
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Sep 7 2021, 02:13) *

Thought:
Might be fun to forge telemetry packets to send to Mozilla. Then we could mess with their precious data collection without actually violating our personal privacy.
[firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org] Overview of telemetry stuff
[firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org] Main useful looking bits to forge (experiments)
[firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org] Common ping structure
wonder what they'll do on abuse of it, not like getting banned from a telemetry service is something to fear here.

EDIT: meant to throw this at the bottom of the other post instead of making a new one, whoops.

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post Sep 7 2021, 22:45
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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Sep 7 2021, 14:57) *
I see the firefox building experience is still the same, when I was doing that regularly they also kept moving more things to rust for no reason, making the build process a bit worse each time.
still havent updated for a while (on 90.0 atm), even though I wont have to put up with building it still dreading having to manually undo the proton ui.

QUOTE(cate_chan @ Sep 7 2021, 14:57) *
and god knows what other settings they switched, if they ever remove the webrender disable options I just straight up cant use it anymore with this hardware.
LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 might work. And I can provide a list of options I've tweaked to make mine somewhat sane. I don't disable webrender in this, but these are the other relevant options (in user.js/prefs.js format).
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// Allow userChrome.css/userContent.css to be used
user_pref("toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets", true);

// Fix scroll bars on "Proton"
user_pref("widget.content.allow-gtk-dark-theme", true);
// replace CDEtheme with the name of your GTK+3 theme of choice.
// Setting this is required for native looking scroll bars in FF 92, it seems.
user_pref("widget.content.gtk-theme-override", "CDEtheme-Crimson-4-colors");

// disable 'non-native theme'
user_pref("widget.non-native-theme.enabled", false);

// Future-proofing, for when they inevitably remove native styling entirely:
// restore arrow buttons on scroll bars if on non-native theme
user_pref("widget.non-native-theme.gtk.scrollbar.allow-buttons", true);
// Make scroll bars rectangular if on non-native theme
user_pref("widget.non-native-theme.gtk.scrollbar.round-thumb", false);
// change size of scroll buttons
user_pref("widget.non-native-theme.gtk.scrollbar.thumb-size", "0.88");
// change scrollbar width to roughly match what it was on my native gtk theme
user_pref("widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size", 14);

// do not show the about:config warning/scare screen
user_pref("browser.aboutConfig.showWarning", false);

// show compact mode setting in UI
user_pref("browser.compactmode.show", true);

// use compact mode
user_pref("browser.uidensity", 1);

// do not draw tabs in title bar of window (maybe only matters in some WM's?)
user_pref("browser.tabs.drawInTitlebar", false);

// do not hide 'http://' prefix and such on URL bar
// (this change is from Australis/FF 29 or maybe even earlier).
user_pref("browser.urlbar.trimURLs", false);

// This no longer works and I will never stop being annoyed
user_pref("browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll", false);
user_pref("browser.urlbar.doubleClickSelectsAll", true);

// not sure what this does but probably something. New in FF 91 or so I think.
// I did see a bug regarding color management not applying if this is set to true.
user_pref("dom.ipc.avoid-gtk", false);

userContent.css (ONLY USE THIS IF NOT USING NATIVE GTK THEME):
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/* uncomment this for non-native theme scrollbar colors to have a little contrast and not change per site background */
/* html,body{
  scrollbar-color: #AEB2C3 #797B87 !important;
}*/


(Messy) userChrome.css, which you've already seen in the past, but which has changed slightly here:
[pastebin.com] https://pastebin.com/raw/hTSqHS5K
I had to tweak the find bar again for 91 to get the "close" button on the left hand side of the text input box. I don't think I did anything else since I had already rewrote this for using 89 with Proton enabled.
This also had the addon installation flickering notification bug I was having fixed by making the hamburger menu zero width instead of setting 'display: none' on it.

Also note that it still has a dependency on [github.com] this CSS blob, which I renamed 'megabar_kill.css' and put in the same directory as my userChrome.css.

QUOTE(cate_chan @ Sep 7 2021, 14:57) *
I'd agree with the inflation part more if I was also making more money than I was at that time, its more that I'm annoyed its not going down more like it was up until the recent pandemic shortages than I'm complaining about the slight increase.
and I do indeed have no use for NVMe or any formfactor of PCIe drives as I'm trying to fill up some slots of that rack server.
probably going to try to get some used hdds for the big storage raid but I'd prefer proxmox to live on its own ssd raid.
understandable.
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EDIT: meant to throw this at the bottom of the other post instead of making a new one, whoops.
Haha, I do that.

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post Sep 8 2021, 15:52
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A single player game on steam shoehorning in multiplayer finally made me add some friends. Luckily, steamgaurd isn't required to join a group or chat in the group (there's a group that was made just for this), or add friends.

Added a few people, and two of them know what's up- been working on projects in game without exchanimg a single message.

It's a management sim with little research projects in game to unlock new items amd get points towards other unlockables (no pay to play though)- the project is advanced by completing tasks, and some tasks require multiple players to independantly complete them.


I think it's intended to make you pester actual friends to buy and play it, but introverts have worked out how to defeat it with no actual social interaction.
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post Sep 9 2021, 22:36
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Oi, I neglected to buy a programming cable for this radio. Just bought a pair of those dumb setscrew DB-25 connectors, I'll use cat6 or some such between em.
It's a male to female DB-25 cable, but with a really weird pinout
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post Sep 10 2021, 00:12
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Oi, I neglected to buy a programming cable for this radio. Just bought a pair of those dumb setscrew DB-25 connectors, I'll use cat6 or some such between em.
It's a male to female DB-25 cable, but with a really weird pinout
You mean it's not straight through and it's also not null modem rs232?
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One end is an accesory port with all manner of signals, voltages, and power on it- amongst other things, the programming bus, a serial data bus, mic and speaker audio, and constant + ignition switched 13.8v power.
Other end goes to an interface box used for many different radios, with level shifters and bus bias supplies.

Opened the cable ends on a couple different cables I had handy- one had 3 wires going to pins of an RJ-45, and a jumper on the box end. A different one had 5 wires to a DB-15, with a jumper and flying lead on the radio end.

I suppose it is lazy on their part not to put the parts needed to bring an RS-232 interface out on the radio- but space on the chassis for connectors is limited and in commercial service they don't reprogrammed often. Depending on the size of the fleet, either the dealer will service them, or an in-house radio shop will.


The handheld radios all use either a quite arcane connector on the side also used for a speaker mic, or need a dumb cradle to power it and access contacts behind the battery.

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post Sep 12 2021, 05:35
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Windows font rendering/hinting is complete ass.

Sure it looks crisp, but it loses most of the form of the typefaces/makes them all look pretty much the same.
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post Sep 12 2021, 18:52
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I'd pay good money for a right angle NES cartridge adapter so the cart sits across the top going backwards.
I might just make one myself, I guess, but I'd still love one so it wouldn't be so damn top-heavy.

Also, I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to make a RAW image I snapped on my phone look decent instead of just getting my old CCD DSLR out. But at least I managed to do better than the built-in camera software on the phone did (and I even feel like I got the white point right). I should probably figure out how people turn photos of those reference color things into camera profiles.

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I finally realized I could transfer files directly between my computer ran through RDP, and my laptop when used from away from home.
So much time spent on trying to get the internet box hard disk working again, or using usb keys, or using other stupid means, when I could do it all directly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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I've been doing that for a decade or more with SSH.
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Sep 12 2021, 18:52) *

I'd pay good money for a right angle NES cartridge adapter so the cart sits across the top going backwards.
I might just make one myself, I guess, but I'd still love one so it wouldn't be so damn top-heavy.
I really feel like I've seen these before in aimless ebay/aliexpress scroling ventures when not looking for them.
but nothing pops up when I do try to find them now, might've been pcie or isa adapters now that I try to recall where I saw it.
regardless though seems easy enough to diy, might even be a usecase for a flexpcb, something I still havent found an excuse project for myself.

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I should probably figure out how people turn photos of those reference color things into camera profiles.
I know theres a very elaborate way to do it in darktable with darktable-chart, but looking into it again quickly it seems theres also various people who made scripts or plugins for easing the process.
from what I remember of trying it for myself is that it had very little positive effects unless lighting was always perfect, and my cameras color response varries widely with light and iso to the point theres no correcting it in a standard manner.
it doesnt help nothing I use to view is color calibrated so it was kinda hopeless to begin with

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I finally realized I could transfer files directly between my computer ran through RDP, and my laptop when used from away from home.
do this non stop at work to throw stuff around between all the vms, the main annoyance is windows doesnt let you copy files open in another program.
really terrible experience when you're used to a sane os.

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QUOTE(cate_chan @ Sep 13 2021, 13:38) *
I really feel like I've seen these before in aimless ebay/aliexpress scroling ventures when not looking for them.
but nothing pops up when I do try to find them now, might've been pcie or isa adapters now that I try to recall where I saw it.
regardless though seems easy enough to diy, might even be a usecase for a flexpcb, something I still havent found an excuse project for myself.
I'd probably just solder a pin connector onto a PCB that's got right angle headers bridging it to another PCB.
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I know theres a very elaborate way to do it in darktable with darktable-chart, but looking into it again quickly it seems theres also various people who made scripts or plugins for easing the process.
I hadn't seen the scripts; only been intimidated by the darktable process.
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from what I remember of trying it for myself is that it had very little positive effects unless lighting was always perfect, and my cameras color response varries widely with light and iso to the point theres no correcting it in a standard manner.
If you can get the swatch in daylight or something else that emits a broad spectrum it's apparently better. If you don't have that then your profile only works in similar lighting circumstances.
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it doesnt help nothing I use to view is color calibrated so it was kinda hopeless to begin with
Ah that'd do it.
Still glad I was able to borrow my friend's colorimeter; my laptop screen was waaayyyy too warm before and that alone made it worthwhile. The improvements on my desktop were mainly making the gamma ramp a little bit better so I could see some finer details (a little less contrasty, but I see everything this way).
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do this non stop at work to throw stuff around between all the vms, the main annoyance is windows doesnt let you copy files open in another program.
really terrible experience when you're used to a sane os.
It's not just that; I hated that even when I only knew Windows and foolishly thought it was somewhat sane for lack of knowing anything better.
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I just poked into my private bin folder to write a script to update PixivUtil2 automatically.

I ran:
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…and it turns out I'd already written a script for it and forgotten that I had.
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Doing dual radios in the car, and was looking for a slick way to switch a mic between them, and may have found it- there's some pins on the connectors called VIP IN and VIP OUT, 3 each. I did some digging curious how the data busses of the radio worked and found info on them. VIP in is a momentary or constant input by connecting the line to ground. VIP OUT is a momentary or constant output, that sinks current to ground to drive a relay. They're meant to integrate things like dash dimming and lighting functions between the radio and vehicle.
I need to figure out how advanced the logic is, or if I need to setup relay latches- the end goal is to press a button on the radio's head to switch the mic and maybe speaker [So I only need one].
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Sep 16 2021, 14:51) *

Doing dual radios in the car, and was looking for a slick way to switch a mic between them, and may have found it- there's some pins on the connectors called VIP IN and VIP OUT, 3 each. I did some digging curious how the data busses of the radio worked and found info on them. VIP in is a momentary or constant input by connecting the line to ground. VIP OUT is a momentary or constant output, that sinks current to ground to drive a relay. They're meant to integrate things like dash dimming and lighting functions between the radio and vehicle.
I need to figure out how advanced the logic is, or if I need to setup relay latches- the end goal is to press a button on the radio's head to switch the mic and maybe speaker [So I only need one].
being lazy I'd probalby throw in something like this, 'multi pole changeover switch', less chinese options are available
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but I also like the idea of pressing a button and the system switching with a multitude of relay clicks.

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