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Aug 17 2021, 17:59
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 17 2021, 06:21)  Is it an encoder issue or the codec these days that determine if it supports multiple cores for encoding? Both. Thought: IGN is definitely wrong here.  I have ball bearing fans that have lasted a decade in continuous usage. Sleeve bearings tend to last one to three mounted horizontally in the same cases. Ball bearings are a very old technology when it comes to computer fans, but also an extremely nice one. The ones with two rows of ball bearings last basically forever. The hydrodynamic bearing ones might be nice; I just bought some earlier this week. We'll see how long they last. My case still uses mostly 80mm fans, btw. I don't mind. I think the vast majority of my PC's noise comes from the stock intel CPU cooler running at a static speed at this point anyway. If [ www.arctic.de] this thing had a copper slug like my old stock cooler has, i'd spring on it just for the lower noise. But with the low wattage of my current CPU the stock HSF isn't really stressed too much anyway and I'm not sure if I could swap the upper fan body of the arctic one onto the stock heat sink body. Add that I'd rather not spend money replacing something unnecessarily, and… well, I'm not too interested in a potentially worse effective cooling solution just because it runs quieter. Once the stock cooler's fan starts failing then I'll consider it, but right now it's been running continuously since 2013 or so. My guess is that their [ www.arctic.de] comparison to the stock intel cooler performance is using one of the full-body aluminum ones, since mine never really needs to run very fast and I think temps top out in the 50's or 60's right now (centigrade). And my current CPU is rated at 12 watts higher than the one they were testing with (which I'm guessing was a haswell/broadwell part). Anyway I guess I'm trying to say it's a shame they cheaped out on that cooler, because I like the general size and shape of the stock intel coolers; I just dislike the fan choice. If they'd put some copper in that one I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Alternatively I'd love a low-ish height (not vertical) CPU heat sink that I can just bolt any old 80mm case fan onto. Can't imagine why it wouldn't work. Some [ www.amazon.com] ancient cpu fans did that approach. The good old days - capacitor plague aside.  I guess zip ties may be an option. I have an older CPU to test things on before risking my current one. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Aug 17 2021, 19:15
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Aug 18 2021, 02:37
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Wayward_Vagabond
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My 120mm CPU cooler fan has a ziptie at each corner holding it to the wire bails- unlike my prior one where they cliped to back of the near flange (and thus, were fan-depth agnostic), these ones hook to the back of the included fan. They didn't include and don't sell wire clips for different fan depths.
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Aug 18 2021, 08:28
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Aug 17 2021, 14:37)  My 120mm CPU cooler fan has a ziptie at each corner holding it to the wire bails- unlike my prior one where they cliped to back of the near flange (and thus, were fan-depth agnostic), these ones hook to the back of the included fan. They didn't include and don't sell wire clips for different fan depths.
Stock heatsinks have continued to get worse if anything. The recent AMD mounting system I found to be more fiddly than need to get down correctly. Dell has won the award for retrofitting Intel coolers onto AMD chips by inserting an aluminum slug spacer, which does not even cover the whole heat shield or make perfect contact.
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Aug 18 2021, 08:47
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Moonlight Rambler
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Thinking of making a pitch bend control for my midi keyboard (which lacks one) out of a gameport Microsoft sidewinder force feedback pro joystick that I've probably had since MS Combat Flight Simulator and a python library I found for dealing with midi junk. It's gonna be so fucking terrible. Not sure if I'm going to use the twist control or the tilt of the stick. But either way it's gonna be absolutely fucking terrible. To be clear it's not the kind with that little knob that acts a lot like a pitch bend control if it didn't automatically spring back to center; it's this kind:  (IMG:[ www.retrocastaway.com] http://www.retrocastaway.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/microsoft-sidewinder-pro2.jpg) QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 18 2021, 02:28)  Stock heatsinks have continued to get worse if anything. The recent AMD mounting system I found to be more fiddly than need to get down correctly.
Dell has won the award for retrofitting Intel coolers onto AMD chips by inserting an aluminum slug spacer, which does not even cover the whole heat shield or make perfect contact. Yeah I have a friend with a (ry)zen cpu and stock cooler; that backplate is a piece of shit. Reminded me of when I fastened a fan to my case using nuts and bolts instead of the "correct" screws. Huge pain in the ass. Also I really don't want to go to 120mm for my cpu fan; my case has enough wires floating around in it as it is and I don't want that bulk. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Aug 18 2021, 08:52
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Aug 18 2021, 08:50
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EsotericSatire
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If possible I try to use Noctua but their price has kept going up.
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Aug 18 2021, 08:57
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 18 2021, 02:50)  If possible I try to use Noctua but their price has kept going up. They're moving upmarket. Time to jump ship. Noctua's pulling a Volvo and going from "not cheap, but good" to "overpriced luxury brand." Also them requiring a proof of purchase for both your heat sink from 2005 and your motherboard in order to get a free adapter plate from them is really hella stupid. You'd think a photo of the parts in question with your photo id on the table in front would be enough. My fans are currently arctic (the 80mm's), as well as best buy "i need a fan but I don't want to wait on shipping" specials (the 120mm's on the front and in the PSU; dual ball bearing type). My case mostly has spots for 80mm fans, since it's Core 2 Duo era (Raidmax smilodon or something; I ripped the front hinged panel off years ago now). And I have an old Galaxy GT 630 card with some random ~40mm fan wedged onto its heat spreader since the stock fan on it died. Talking of Galaxy, there's another brand that's moved hugely upmarket in recent years. I bought that card for probably $50 when it was new. I don't think they have anything below $100 anymore (even before the GPU shortage/bubble). P.S. heat sinks don't necessarily need to cover the entire IHS to do their job; it depends on the size of the die under the IHS and the efficacy of the transfer. I do have my doubts that Dell's doing a great job of that with a middleman plate, but just saying. That alone isn't an issue. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Aug 18 2021, 09:04
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Aug 18 2021, 10:17
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Wayward_Vagabond
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 18 2021, 02:28)  Stock heatsinks have continued to get worse if anything. The recent AMD mounting system I found to be more fiddly than need to get down correctly.
Dell has won the award for retrofitting Intel coolers onto AMD chips by inserting an aluminum slug spacer, which does not even cover the whole heat shield or make perfect contact.
Current heatsink- Scythe Mugen 5 Old: Coolermasyter Hyper212
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Aug 18 2021, 16:09
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Aug 17 2021, 20:57)  They're moving upmarket. Time to jump ship.
Noctua's pulling a Volvo and going from "not cheap, but good" to "overpriced luxury brand."
Also them requiring a proof of purchase for both your heat sink from 2005 and your motherboard in order to get a free adapter plate from them is really hella stupid. You'd think a photo of the parts in question with your photo id on the table in front would be enough.
Wow thats lame that they want both receipts now. I suppose I have been keeping them for the past 10 years due to tax though. They probably want to make it trickier so people might just buy a new CPU cooler. Current comp has noctua fans on the radiators. Long ago they had a cheaper multi-pack but now each one is separate. The new colored fans don't include as many accessories as the regular fans. I suppose they see color as a premium feature. The only thing close to the price is the RGB fans. QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Aug 17 2021, 22:17)  Current heatsink- Scythe Mugen 5 Old: Coolermasyter Hyper212
Pretty good coolers. The Coolermaster Hyper212 was the go to value upgrade. This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Aug 18 2021, 16:15
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Aug 18 2021, 17:03
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Wayward_Vagabond
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Was good thermally, but a few MM too tall when I moved cases. Chassis is full of Nidec and SanAce fans, plus w/e the cheap tiny one I stuck on the raid card is. I think it's only 4CFM? Just enugh to keep the heatsink at a tolerable temp though.
Putting a new radio in the truck. Instead if being perior correct to the 1990 truck, this one is fancier and about 10 years newer. I think the one in it was made in 1989, and the new one is circa 2001, but I'd need to open them up and check date codes to confirm. Instead of 16 channels called 01 through 16 on a green 7 segment display, I'll have up to 128 or 256 depending on the exact radio, zones, and alphanumeric names with a blue VFD display.
The guy I was gonna buy a real nice one from ghosted me before sending pics, but found a still good one at a good price.
This post has been edited by Wayward_Vagabond: Aug 18 2021, 17:06
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Aug 18 2021, 19:01
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Moonlight Rambler
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Aug 19 2021, 00:37
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EsotericSatire
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This is accurate.
Hmmm not sure if I should get a UPS again. I got the shits with them over the cost of batteries in the past. "how can the replacement battery be more than what I paid for the unit?"
My work used to have a massive one, but we have cloudified all the servers now, so we probably don't have one anymore.
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Aug 19 2021, 04:19
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Anime Janai
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 18 2021, 15:37)  Hmmm not sure if I should get a UPS again. I got the shits with them over the cost of batteries in the past. "how can the replacement battery be more than what I paid for the unit?"
The APC ones I use have two 9 amp/hour batteries and the lone CyberPower China UPS has two 7 amp/hour batteries, a higher wattage load rating, and a longer runtime than the APC units. So the Chinese have different design criteria. I got the CyberPower China one when the local Costco had the past black friday sale on them for $89. When I bought replacement batteries for the APC, the UPS ran a test and didn't like them. I probably got scammed with chinese counterfeit batteries with only 20% of the capacity of authentic properly made batteries. The runtime on the new batts is 11 minutes (says the tester) whereas with authentic batteries it says 43 minutes.
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Aug 19 2021, 09:07
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(elda88 @ Aug 18 2021, 23:40)  Is this good enough to cool a Ryzen 5 3600X on load by video rendering process? Just visually looking at it without reading specs, probably, yeah. 95W TDP CPU shouldn't be an issue, even with a stock cooler. "Nickel plated copper" - should be fine. Would be really great if they actually gave numbers for how good it was at dissipating heat, but the construction looks pretty typical for that kind of heat sink This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Aug 19 2021, 09:10
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Aug 19 2021, 09:14
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Aug 18 2021, 11:03)  I think it's only 4CFM? Just enugh to keep the heatsink at a tolerable temp though. I have a tiny fan like that in my Famicom that I made a custom power board for. Had to use a tiny heat sink so I had to add a fan. Running a 12VDC fan off 5v, so I had to use a charge pump sort of thing to get the fan started (5v doesn't reliably make it start spinning, but can keep it spinning when already started). It's dead silent, and apparently all my 7805 regulator needed was the tiniest amount of air flow to be happy in that confined space on that dinky heat sink. Even handles the famicom disk system RAM adapter just fine. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Aug 19 2021, 09:16
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Aug 19 2021, 09:43
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(elda88 @ Aug 18 2021, 17:40)  Do you need to go with that fan due to case space limitations. For its size its a very decent cooler. With the Zen 3 processors the more thermal headroom they have the better they can load balance and hit their highest boost clocks. People also have done video editing on rigs with that cooler and that cpu but they are probably not maxing out their boost clocks, which may not be important unless you are doing loads of rendering / encoding. There are a lot of people going with the Noctua NH-D15, which is serious unit of a cooler but really requires a larger case. The noctua site now includes their testing: [ ncc.noctua.at] https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X-1025For the 3600x if you want the best boost performance and overclocking headroom their top recommendations are the NH-D15 / NH-U12A / NH-U14S.
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Aug 19 2021, 15:20
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Wayward_Vagabond
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The tower coolers I mentiond had/have slightly overclocked 3700X (4.0GHz) under them. I partly did the OC just because, because I still had plenty of thermal headroom- but I didn't use the stock fan with either.
A tower cooler is better for airflow in the case generally, unless you have some manner of height restriction.
That being said, the pictured cooler should have no issues.
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Aug 19 2021, 15:55
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Side thought: don't think I've had a CPU with a TDP above the 70's since Netburst.
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Aug 19 2021, 15:56
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Aug 19 2021, 23:56
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I thought Win XP SP3 came with all .NET Frameworks up to 3.5, but apparently not, discovered on my virtual xp machine that a program requested 2.0 SP2 (hell to find the damn thing), and when I checked in already installed stuff, it seems there wasn't a single .NET thing (this at least explains why one of my .NET program on that machine didn't work (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ). Still, finished checking all that could work on that machine (because copy-paste from a real computer), and the amount of things that worked is incredible...to hell with those useless install. Still got black screens with sounds/music, and Galaxy Angel got no text, and some stuff do tell me install is broken, but all those are a minority.
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Aug 20 2021, 03:06
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EsotericSatire
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Lel when people ask why this site does not have other payment methods and payment processors....
Onlyfans is now banning explicit adult content due to pressure from the banks and paypal.
Rofl.
Adult cosplay will still be legal. Seems they know their market.
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