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Jan 18 2021, 07:44
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Anime Janai
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QUOTE(GonRiv @ Jan 17 2021, 02:51)  I should have start trading bitcoin last year
But as soon as Kamala Harris finds out that libertarians use bitcoin most, she'll go on the warpath against it for their non support of BLM, ACORN, and other social welfare projects. As soon as laws begin to be aggressively applied to virtual money, it will drop like a rock.
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Jan 18 2021, 08:44
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Anime Janai @ Jan 17 2021, 19:44)  But as soon as Kamala Harris finds out that libertarians use bitcoin most, she'll go on the warpath against it for their non support of BLM, ACORN, and other social welfare projects. As soon as laws begin to be aggressively applied to virtual money, it will drop like a rock.
They will encourage everyone to put all the 401k into crypto yuan. Trump blocked them from doing shifting primarily 401k mutual funds to companies in China that have not been audited. Biden will probably fix that good judgment asap.
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Jan 18 2021, 09:45
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(Anime Janai @ Jan 18 2021, 00:44)  blah blah blah kamala harris blah QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 18 2021, 01:44)  blah blah blah biden & trump blah >> FSZ's over there, folks(OK, yeah, it is tech related, but can't we just contain the blatantly political stuff to to the politics containment board?) Running a dist-upgrade on a three year out of date Debian Sid installation. Had to update how I evade Systemd-as-init on Debian, since the easiest way of dodging it has changed since I last updated this one. Kind of a pain in the ass. Oh also, "bracketed paste mode" in bash is on by default now and it's almost as retarded as GNU ls shell escaping things by default. I kind of wonder if the same person committed the two changes. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jan 18 2021, 10:12
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Jan 18 2021, 13:09
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EsotericSatire
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Okay Mom.
Well on topic, I have been using the version of windows where you can turn off all telemetry....
It totally shat itself, corrupted and could not repair itself because telemetry and some other related features were off. I turned a bunch of things back on but it could not repair itself... had to reinstall...
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Jan 18 2021, 20:28
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 18 2021, 06:09)  Well on topic, I have been using the version of windows where you can turn off all telemetry....
It totally shat itself, corrupted and could not repair itself because telemetry and some other related features were off. I turned a bunch of things back on but it could not repair itself... had to reinstall... I feel like I warned you that would happen. I definitely warned somebody at least.
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Jan 19 2021, 04:07
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chriseras
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 18 2021, 03:09)  It totally shat itself, corrupted and could not repair itself because telemetry and some other related features were off. I turned a bunch of things back on but it could not repair itself... had to reinstall... That's kind of why one puts the operating system on something like a small drive or SSD and put the actual data on another formatted drive or HDD. You can set the location of the folders under the user, such as Desktop, Music, Videos, etc., so that if your Win10 OS does crap itself, you can just swap out the OS drive with another one that works, or just reinstall. All without touching the data store drive.
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Jan 19 2021, 04:46
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Jan 18 2021, 08:28)  I feel like I warned you that would happen. I definitely warned somebody at least.
But this was an official version where you could turn telemetry and everything off. I guess they hoped nobody actually would. QUOTE(chriseras @ Jan 18 2021, 16:07)  That's kind of why one puts the operating system on something like a small drive or SSD and put the actual data on another formatted drive or HDD. You can set the location of the folders under the user, such as Desktop, Music, Videos, etc., so that if your Win10 OS does crap itself, you can just swap out the OS drive with another one that works, or just reinstall. All without touching the data store drive.
Yeah I do. I only had to reinstall and reactivate applications. This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Jan 19 2021, 04:47
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Jan 19 2021, 09:29
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 18 2021, 21:46)  But this was an official version where you could turn telemetry and everything off. I guess they hoped nobody actually would.
Heh. More likely they just don't test anything; they've been using Windows users as beta testers for a while now; it's not much different than running Debian unstable except that in Debian you actually have the tools to figure out why something's broken and to fix it promptly. Windows is no longer up to the expectations of quality that it once seemed to deliver on.
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Jan 19 2021, 10:03
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Jan 18 2021, 21:29)  Heh. More likely they just don't test anything; they've been using Windows users as beta testers for a while now; it's not much different than running Debian unstable except that in Debian you actually have the tools to figure out why something's broken and to fix it promptly. Windows is no longer up to the expectations of quality that it once seemed to deliver on.
Normally I've been able to repair any issues. Its the first time all the built in tools and even 3d party tools shat themselves. Windows was still nominally working but windows update and a few other functions were getting more and more broken due to corruption. First time i've had to format an re-install in a long time. Windows ME was very common, windows XP was occasional but common. I wonder if its related to a bug that I've seen before on Windows 10, where windows forgets ownership rights of part of the file system and then you can't restore the privileges as admin. Its weird. Last time it happened a year or so ago, I had to boot linux to fix the issues in the file system. Windows was just too derp to do it.
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Jan 19 2021, 12:13
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Wayward_Vagabond
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I thought file ownership was just a shoehorned thing in NTFS instead of being part of the file system. I guess that makes sense why it'd break.
Made up some dumb front panel ribbon cables for the GX270, but the IEC inlet exploded on the power supply. The cable I was trying to connect wasn't live, so the socket just burst. I've ordered another supply. I can probably fix the old one, but IEC inlets (especially snap-in) are never a standard size.
A few more parts are starting to show up, so should have more meaningful progress to report soon enough.
I got a used Corsair HX1200i, and it was acting really weird when I was testing it before installing. Now it's completely dead, so maybe that'll speed up the RMA process. I did not kill it on purpose.
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Jan 19 2021, 14:59
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jan 19 2021, 00:13)  I thought file ownership was just a shoehorned thing in NTFS instead of being part of the file system. I guess that makes sense why it'd break.
Yeah its probably why, in 10 they have shoehorned more security features in basically copying linux features. It seems to be a win10 issue where admins can't restore ownership for a range of daft reasons. It goes back to security vulnerability where they didn't set permissions correctly in earlier versions of Win10 so the bodge was to deny any access where ownership was not set but it has had knock on effects in weird cases where windows can give up on fixing the corruption or error. I blew my mind that it was spitting such vague errors when for a while with windows 7 to 10, the logs and errors were really good at helping you to understand and fix the problem. Its like in the latest versions they have made it so that you have to go into extremely technical logs which are now hard to read or you get some vague error code that you are expected to google the answer. Its so lazy lol. edit: Omg hilarious. Did you see the story of the hacker that hacked the internet connected chasity cock cage for men and demanded bit coins for release. HAHAHAHA The Cellmate was a internet connected chastity cage that used the app to unlock. Now they are held for dick ransom. This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Jan 19 2021, 16:41
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Jan 19 2021, 20:44
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 19 2021, 03:03)  Normally I've been able to repair any issues. Its the first time all the built in tools and even 3d party tools shat themselves.
Windows was still nominally working but windows update and a few other functions were getting more and more broken due to corruption.
First time i've had to format an re-install in a long time. Windows ME was very common, windows XP was occasional but common. I wonder if its related to a bug that I've seen before on Windows 10, where windows forgets ownership rights of part of the file system and then you can't restore the privileges as admin. Its weird. Last time it happened a year or so ago, I had to boot linux to fix the issues in the file system. Windows was just too derp to do it.
Try getting SYSTEM-level access. That should let you fix permissions, hopefully. QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 19 2021, 07:59)  Its so lazy lol. That's what I'm talking about. M$ has gotten incredibly lazy with Windows 10 because they know they don't even have to try and people will keep using it because most can just reinstall without losing too much valuable stuff. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jan 19 2021, 20:49
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Jan 20 2021, 08:00
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Moonlight Rambler
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My knockoff laptop battery from Shenzen just arrived. Unlike the last time I ordered one, this one actually seems to work, and it's the variety that actually fits in my dock (all the ones available from within the US were another knockoff kind that does _not_ fit in a dock). I'm pleasantly surprised.
I have yet to see how long it will hold a charge, still.
My last non-defective knockoff batteries lasted around 2.5 years or so; they still work but don't hold much charge anymore. I bought them both at the same time. My OEM lenovo batteries for my non-tablet X201, which I bought around 2016 I think, are still great. Too bad OEM are unobtainable for the tablet version and have been for years.
Once again on one of my systems that I upgraded, I couldn't make audio work at all until I uninstalled pulseaudio. then suddenly everything started working.
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jan 20 2021, 09:36
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Jan 20 2021, 23:16
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EsotericSatire
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The current AMD and Intel processors in gaming are affected by ram latency but most people only understand ram speed.
Its more confusing as the same line of ram from a manufacturer can use different chips with vastly different timings.
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Jan 21 2021, 00:08
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 20 2021, 16:16)  The current AMD and Intel processors in gaming are affected by ram latency but most people only understand ram speed.
Its more confusing as the same line of ram from a manufacturer can use different chips with vastly different timings.
Meanwhile I'm over here with systems that misbehave if their ram is too fast (< 120ns or so response). This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jan 21 2021, 00:09
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Jan 21 2021, 00:18
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Anime Janai
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 18 2021, 03:09)  Okay Mom. Well on topic, I have been using the version of windows where you can turn off all telemetry....
It totally shat itself, corrupted and could not repair itself because telemetry and some other related features were off. I turned a bunch of things back on but it could not repair itself... had to reinstall...
Ha, ha, my windows 10 is sort of like that now. I liked privacy. So I made a lot of legal changes and of course installed legal programs which included commercially purchased software products or hardware products which came with their own drivers. Then, sometime in Late November, win10 refused to update drivers. After re-enabling as much as I remembered, the win10 update page still displays "Something went wrong. Try to reopen Settings later." I contacted the win10 online help advisor, and the problem couldn't be fixed even with re-installation of the latest win10 version pack (I already had it). Apparently, all I can do is do a full replacement of win10 from scratch. Some "secret flag" must have been set inside win10 saying to brick the update ability. Recovery Point doesn't fix the problem. yeah, all my problems happened after I watched this Amiga commercial. I blame amiga for my win10 problems. [ archive.org] https://archive.org/details/Amiga_500_1987_Commodore
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Jan 21 2021, 06:40
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Anime Janai @ Jan 20 2021, 12:18)  I contacted the win10 online help advisor, and the problem couldn't be fixed even with re-installation of the latest win10 version pack (I already had it). Apparently, all I can do is do a full replacement of win10 from scratch. Some "secret flag" must have been set inside win10 saying to brick the update ability. Recovery Point doesn't fix the problem.
Yeah pretty similar. My theory is that has usually been true so far, is that in the big version updates they roll out features that haven't even been tested on every version of windows and assume their built in tools will fix it. I've had win 10 totally stuffed twice now, and both times due to an end of year major update. Windows team announces the big roll out then goes on vacation. They probably crunch to get the update ready then flee when support would be needed. The safe solution is to not roll out major updates for a few weeks but I noticed in the new version that its harder to set it to manual download and install for updates. Its like 5-10 settings rather than one flag. edit: I've gone back into group policy and after fixing everything and successfully installing all the updates the options for configuring automatic updates are different. I think there was a problem with some of them causing windows update to break so they have disabled some of them. They probably updated windows up and broke stuff depending on your settings. This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Jan 21 2021, 06:47
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Jan 21 2021, 06:58
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Wayward_Vagabond
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They dogfood the shit out of their spaghetti code, and assume that constitutes proper testing.
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Jan 21 2021, 07:46
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Moonlight Rambler
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Only thing updates have broken this year was audio once, which I resolved by uninstalling pulseaudio. No reinstalls needed.
I wonder if my laptops would refuse to charge a battery if it didn't identify itself as OE equipment from some internal whitelist. I know my old Dell laptops did that but with unofficial chargers (or malfunctioning OE ones). They had a little 1Wire EPROM in the chargers that seemed to like to fry themselves. I went through more chargers for my D-series Latitudes than I did batteries because they'd refuse to charge and lock themselves to around 600MHz if they didn't recognize a valid one.
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jan 21 2021, 07:48
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Jan 21 2021, 08:14
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jan 20 2021, 18:58)  They dogfood the shit out of their spaghetti code, and assume that constitutes proper testing.
Yeah :/ QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Jan 20 2021, 19:46)  I wonder if my laptops would refuse to charge a battery if it didn't identify itself as OE equipment from some internal whitelist. I know my old Dell laptops did that but with unofficial chargers (or malfunctioning OE ones). They had a little 1Wire EPROM in the chargers that seemed to like to fry themselves. I went through more chargers for my D-series Latitudes than I did batteries because they'd refuse to charge and lock themselves to around 600MHz if they didn't recognize a valid one.
Maybe, consumer laws fought back against that a while back when they first started claiming that they were 'smart batteries' and only official batteries could work. Dell has been one of the worst offenders at times. Companies have clawed away at right to repair and right to replace consumable parts. I think because everything is produced in China even in the same factories now, that its also less of an issue.
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