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post Aug 17 2020, 20:18
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Aug 17 2020, 14:15) *

That's a shame, I was assuming whenever the time came to get a new TV that's what I'd go for but that was obviously one of my considerations. My only experience with OLED is phone screens, and while I haven't had any burn in on them I also don't use my phone nearly as much as a TV or a monitor.

Run a full-screen white or gray screen app. You'll see the shadows on your menu buttons.
Noticed them around 3 months after getting a Nexus 6, and around 3 months after getting my Pixel 2 XL.
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I'll likely still go that route unless something better comes along, and as I don't plan on changing any time soon and no disaster occurs that's a distinct possibility.

I hope your panel serves you well for ages to come.
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post Aug 17 2020, 20:42
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Aug 17 2020, 13:09) *

You treasure that.


I assure you, I am and will continue to. I love this thing

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I'm still using old professional direct-view CRT monitors because they were cheaper used than plasma sets a few years back (and had the upshot of being great for retro gaming, although my parents' plasma does an admirable job, too, albeit with the interlacing problem).


A while back I managed to snag myself a Sony PVM20M4U for my old consoles, you really can't beat a good CRT for retro gaming. RGB cables and output mods are just the icing on the cake.

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Thinkpads are far worse now. Lower build quality generally, harder to do maintenance on, less expandible, worse keyboards, 16:9 displays (some of which are glossy iirc). No option to get one without a touchpad either. Prices as high as ever.
The newer Dell Latitudes look acceptable to me, actually, but… those panasonics just have everything. Finding a nice quality laptop that doesn't use 16:9 is the hardest, and some of those laptops even have optical drives.


Can't say I'm surprised, but still disappointed. I've had good experiences with Latitudes in the past, I know I recommended them to some friends and family that asked, but like I said before I'm working with old info. Seems like 16:9 is just about the only option on screens in general nowadays, shame, I liked 16:10.

QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Aug 17 2020, 13:18) *

Run a full-screen white or gray screen app. You'll see the shadows on your menu buttons.
Noticed them around 3 months after getting a Nexus 6, and around 3 months after getting my Pixel 2 XL.


I actually check from time to time out of morbid curiosity, so far I'm clean and it's been a year. If I get bored enough I'll dig up my Nexus 6P and check that as it served a couple of years more but so far so good.

Scratch that, under grey I can faintly see some shadowing.

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post Aug 17 2020, 21:42
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Aug 17 2020, 14:42) *

I assure you, I am and will continue to. I love this thing
A while back I managed to snag myself a Sony PVM20M4U for my old consoles, you really can't beat a good CRT for retro gaming. RGB cables and output mods are just the icing on the cake.

I have a PVM-20L5 here, but I actually prefer my Panasonic BT-H1390YN and Commodore 1942 for most things. The 20L5 is good for playing with others though, because it's larger.
Treasure that 20M4U though; it's another of the really desirable/good ones (along with the 20L5, apparently). Hope you got a good deal on it. It's probably just going to go up in value as more people learn about the pro trinitron meme (they're good sets, but the prices are getting crazy now. I blame youtubers).
I might be a little biased because my screen saw a lot of use before I got it and isn't as bright as it probably used to be. It is my only screen with SMPTE-C phosphors, too, which are naturally not as bright as P-22 ones.
I didn't buy RGB cables; I just drilled holes in most of my stuff and added RCA jacks and then used component cables plus one extra for sync. Those RGB cables (especially the ones that go through SCART) are expensive.
With the Mega Drive/Genesis and the Master System I had to buffer my sync signals, since they output an open collector csync. I just used 7408 (or 74LS08, 74HC08, you get the idea) chips with the inputs tied together.
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Since taking that pic I also added an S-video output to the genesis. it looks good; not quite as good as RGB or S-Video from a late model SNES/PSX, but still much better than composite or RF.
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The Playstation is nice though in that you can use a guncon adapter (SCPH-1160, for instance, or the Namco one, to break out a sync signal) and a PS2/PS3 component cable (for RGB) to avoid doing any modifications. You can also do this with the PS2, actually, although that can output good quality YPbPr so it might not be strictly necessary.
In fact, if you have a launch PSX (SCPH-1000/3000/5000 in japan, or SCPH-1001/1002 in america and europe), a developer unit, or the rare SCPH-5903 (the one that can play VCD's), you can use the built-in RCA jacks on the back of the system for sync.
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I modded my launch system (October 1995 part codes, November 1995 manufacture sticker) to output s-video luma over the yellow jack just for a slightly cleaner sync.
My launch system was free, and all the screw posts are broken so it's held together with hot glue. I also replaced the PSU with a newer one since I could see heat discoloration on the original's board and I also replaced the disc drive with one from a late-manufacture system (from 2000). So if you notice it looks kinda bad that's why.
You may also notice the rubber feet I added. I think they helped a lot; before I started using them my consoles would slide around a bunch. IDK what Sony was thinking using felt pads on the early PSX's and hard plastic on the later ones.
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I did a similar mod inside my guncon adapter.
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Aug 17 2020, 14:42) *

Can't say I'm surprised, but still disappointed. I've had good experiences with Latitudes in the past, I know I recommended them to some friends and family that asked, but like I said before I'm working with old info. Seems like 16:9 is just about the only option on screens in general nowadays, shame, I liked 16:10.

My newest latitudes are from around 2007, and they have the old thinkpad keyboard layout (except ctrl key is on the bottom left corner instead of fn). I quite like them. But I do feel like from my short observations the newer latitudes are still built to a decent thickness and out of good materials.
For me, ideal would be 4:3 or 1:1. But I do prefer 8:5 (16:10) over other things that are obtainable (those japanese-only Panasonic notebooks notwithstanding). It's one of a few reasons I've stuck to my X201 tablet instead of getting the X220 tablet which has better performance.
If that Eizo 1:1 panel (EV2730Q) wasn't so ungodly expensive, I'd have one for my desktop and never have to rotate my display ever again.

QUOTE(Scumbini @ Aug 17 2020, 14:42) *

I actually check from time to time out of morbid curiosity, so far I'm clean and it's been a year. If I get bored enough I'll dig up my Nexus 6P and check that as it served a couple of years more but so far so good.

Scratch that, under grey I can faintly see some shadowing.

RIP.

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Haven't done this in ages, but I'm building wine-staging from sources and had to do a dist-upgrade on my 32-bit chroot. It's taking quite a while.
Since it's just a chroot, though, I have no qualms with using '-o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite"'.

Just put another new-ish hard disk in my desktop; mounted it in a floppy drive bay for lack of other available space. It really is so quiet compared to my ol' reliable drive (the one from 2005 I've never stopped using). I'm certain that drive's always been that loud, though, so I'm not super worried. I remember thinking it was loud when I first got this machine, even.

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Interestingly, the PATA version of my oldest HDD in my current desktop goes for about four times what the SATA version does on ebay. (ST3500630A is PATA, ST3500630AS is SATA). That's a shame.I was going to just grab one of them for my PS2 (since mine's just been so darned reliable), but I guess I'll use a 2.5" SATA disk and a (desktop-pinout) PATA adapter instead.

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post Aug 18 2020, 01:18
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Your commitment to retro is impressive.

I gave up on my retro consoles when both by CRTs died.


Also am I the only one that finds the avengers collection edition intel processors are retarded?

Why would you pay more for a CPU collectors box? Not even a special edition processor?
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post Aug 18 2020, 01:27
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Also am I the only one that finds the avengers collection edition intel processors are retarded?

Why would you pay more for a CPU collectors box? Not even a special edition processor?


Jesus that's real? I thought it was like a bootleg aliexpress listing or a joke about consume product. Fucking hell.
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post Aug 18 2020, 07:20
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Aug 17 2020, 16:27) *

Jesus that's real? I thought it was like a bootleg aliexpress listing or a joke about consume product. Fucking hell.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5739107

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post Aug 18 2020, 10:20
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Your commitment to retro is impressive.

I gave up on my retro consoles when both by CRTs died.

I've repaired two CRT's. It wasn't really that bad, you really just have to be careful. It was at worst awkward because of the shape and size of everything.

Of course, it does depend on how it breaks. If your tube itself can't warm up, for instance, (and it's not because of inadequate supply), that might be a show-stopper unless you can source another tube.

The Sony 20L5 was one of the ones I fixed up; it had to have its yoke repositioned.

The other was the Commodore monitor, which had several bad caps, several more ready to go, a PCB with a tendency to have traces break off the board, and what appears to be a factory repair bodge job to patch already-existing cracks in the PCB. It's a miracle that one works at all, but the tube itself is actually the best looking of all my sets (although the Panasonic has better driving circuitry/regulation to prevent things like blooming and the same dot pitch/phosphor type, the tube itself appears to be a bit more worn-in on the panasonic). Also it has an anti-glare coating, unlike the panasonic.

The commodore monitor also suffered a horizontal collapse at one point during my repairs, but it turned out to just need a reflowing under the flyback transformer where a trace runs from it to the HOT (horizontal output transistor; the thing that steers the electrons across the screen about 15,625 times per second). I reflowed the HOT at the same time just to be safe. Can't hurt to have some new (leaded) solder.

I also had to reflow some connections on the neckboard, since the green gun was intermittent. I hope whoever manufactured or chose the materials/design for those PCB's in that set got fired. All the parts in it were cheapo. The tube manufacturer is Orion, which is IIRC just one of the cheaper korean manufacturers of the early 90's. I've had to replace four trimmers inside it, too. I also had to move the magnets on the back of the tube to fix a color purity issue.

The picture's absolutely fantastic now, though, and it can also do 480p (meaning Smash Bros in 480p!). So it was totally worth all of that. 750 TV Lines (at the center), 0.28mm dot pitch. The only downside is that I had to make a sync separator to drive it, and it only supports RGB input so I can't really play my NES or Atari 2600 on it (with color, anyway. I could just run the composite signal to all three color channels and get a grayscale image with chroma dots).
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My next project will be an old monochrome (amber screen) IBM terminal with a CRT that I can tell is on its last legs. Thankfully, there is someone selling apparently NOS flyback transformers that will fit in it on ebay, so I might just grab one of those at the same time that I recap it.

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post Aug 19 2020, 00:58
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so today my chinese sdr came (radio you can change frequencies with progamatically and use for listening to sensors and whatnot). I was going to use it to replace my alarm systems main hub thing, as its awful and hasnt been alive in years.

to my surprise and confusion car tire pressure sensors of modern cars are on this same frequency and now I get to know what everyones tire pressure is that drives by my house (IMG:[猫.移动] https://猫.移动/-/vgsc0w.png)

I do have to wonder how we got to this point of technology
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Do you have wireless motion / IR sensors?


I gave up on all that and just installed more physical security.
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post Aug 19 2020, 13:38
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Do you have wireless motion / IR sensors?
I gave up on all that and just installed more physical security.

I have a couple motion sensors and a lot of those door/window ones, it was more a personal excuse to get one of these radios to mess about with than anything. That security system was already here when I moved in and I dont care enough about it to get another official 'base station' but I came across a video of a guy setting up one with one of these radios as base and though 'hey neat'. I mean I dont care enough to put any money into using that security system again but if I can get some use out of it with this radio I've been meaning to look into regardless I thought I might as well.

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Just realized my server/desktop is likely still booting via CSM with an MBR. Maybe migrating that without reinstalling will be my project for tomorrow (I've messed with (U)EFI before quite a bit on other machines).

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Nevermind. The project is now to get DeepCreamPy 1.x running (since he changed the license for 2.x), using CUDA 9.2.

I'm hoping to use 9.2 because Torch 7 (needed for waifu2x) is hard to build/install with CUDA 10.0; there's some guide online I've never been able to successfully use for whatever reason. I forget the details now.

Anyway, the version of TensorFlow I need to build to use this looks like the very first release that defaulted to CUDA 10.0, so hopefully if there are breaking changes I will be able to bisect the problems without actually understanding what I'm doing.

…I feel like getting Torch7 and all the other dependencies for Waifu2x working was about as annoying as this has been so far, but I'll see if it finishes compiling before I commit myself to that. Hopefully none of the other dependencies of DCP are as annoying/confusing as this.

I also blame nvidia for making all this shit opaque as hell. A few minutes ago I had to tell the build system to try using GCC 4.8; apparently GCC 5 was too new or something.

Glad I still had GCC 4.8 installed from when I tried to get AROS to build (it built, but nothing happened when I tried to run it). It looks like it's not in the Debian repositories for Sid anymore, and I really hated the last time I had to build a toolchain from sources.

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…Now that I think about it, I can also just use OpenCL with TensorFlow. If this build fails I think I'll just do that instead of making things stupidly hard on myself.

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Edit 2: Got it working without much more fuss; just took a while to compile tensorflow. It pretty much works, although mosaic decensoring is somewhat lackluster (which is not too surprising, to be honest). And in any event it's set up now and I have evidence that newer versions of Tensorflow will still work with CUDA 9.2 (although I don't know how recent I can go with it).

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I'm bored with the delays
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post Aug 22 2020, 03:11
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I'm bored with the delays
anything specific? or all the beer virus induced delays in general?

as far as delays in shipping china tech goes, its been ramping up lately. they seem to be so focussed on catching up the last few things I ordered were here in a record time of two weeks
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I decided to do some more long-delayed shakeups on my desktop. Deleted a windows 7 installation partition I hadn't booted since 2014 and reclaimed 75GiB (and a primary partition, since this is an MBR disk).
Now I'm moving my boot partition and home directory partition to absorb that space, which means I'll have to get grub-install to cooperate again, but I think I know how to coerce it into compliance since I did pretty similarly earlier.

I think I might delete the other Windows 7 installation partition from my secondary HDD after this (off my 3TB drive). That one won't be as likely to fuck up my ability to boot, so hopefully it'll be a simple job. The only annoying thing is making sure I snarf anything I want off the partition before deleting. I don't think there's much on there, except an old customized build of QuakeSpasm that makes it play more like old-style GLQuake by default. I made it to share with an IRC buddy to do some gibbing with a few years ago (he used Windows primarily, so I decided to make the build for him in MinGW so we could both play. He felt similarly to me about all the forks that try to "enhance" things).

So anyway, my desktop is booting off a Debian live DVD right now. Feels a little weird to be using MATE again instead of my fvwm thing, but also a bit nostalgic. I'm missing my custom keyboard shortcuts from fvwm though.

Also, apparently, xscreensaver has a boing ball screensaver (like the old Amiga demo). So I'm just running that until the hard disk wizardry is done in a few hours.

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When I use Alt Gr to write some special characters like [@ or { or others, I get some parasite characters.
And the @ I bolded after seeing it appearing in the previous line is one of those.
When I searched for this issue of Google, found someone with the same issue, but no answer to it.
I guess it come from Windows 10 itself, since I see that behavior on Visual Studio and Firefox (not really a link between those 2 besides the OS).
Maybe it will be gone next time I update the OS, since I'm spacing updates a lot these days.

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I don't have another system on the same computer to test if it's indeed the OS. Could be coming from the keyboard itself, but I don't have a substitute to test that either.

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When I use Alt Gr to write some special characters like [@ or { or others, I get some parasite characters.
And the @ I bolded after seeing it appearing in the previous line is one of those.
When I searched for this issue of Google, found someone with the same issue, but no answer to it.
I guess it come from Windows 10 itself, since I see that behavior on Visual Studio and Firefox (not really a link between those 2 besides the OS).
Maybe it will be gone next time I update the OS, since I'm spacing updates a lot these days.
and you only get this on windows? I switched back to using the compose key again instead of alt gr. I do know windows can be tricky about keyboard layouts that arent the us default, from what I hear
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QUOTE(uareader @ Aug 22 2020, 07:21) *

I have windows problems

I'm shocked.
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and you only get this on windows? I switched back to using the compose key again instead of alt gr. I do know windows can be tricky about keyboard layouts that arent the us default, from what I hear

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OK, windows partition's deleted and I got GRUB working via UEFI again.

Another upshot of this upgrade is that now my text console mode isn't 640x480 anymore (due to the console mode being set in UEFI). Although I might want to make it 640x480 again if I ever connect my Amiga monitor to it.

Funnily enough, modern windows can't display the boot screen properly on it. I think the latest that does is XP.

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Google Shit™ kicked me out of my Google account.
They keep asking me for a code sent by mail, then completely ignore my answer and ask PHONE PHONE PHONE PHONE.
Where can I hire a murderer looking for a way to creatively kill his victims, to ask him to kill employee of the big G by forcing them to swallow phone until death occur or something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Aug 22 2020, 19:21) *

The compose key is a gift from the gods.
highly underappreciated and forgotten. not sure why it went ever out of fashion.
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They keep asking me for a code sent by mail, then completely ignore my answer and ask PHONE PHONE PHONE PHONE.
I really wonder about the legality of this, I've had it happen with a number of services before where for random reasons they force you to give them your phone number to get access to your account back
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