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post Aug 14 2020, 10:22
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 14 2020, 01:51) *

RIP low latency ram.

edit: I found 1 kit of the 4000mhz CL15 and its for sale for $800 dollars.... wow.

I'd probably get middle-of-the-road latency RAM, and definitely would get it used. It'll be cheaper and easier to find in two years or so.

Still, I probably won't be upgrading in two years barring some drastic change in my use case.

That said I started zopflipng-ing images on my desktop around 24 hours ago, so far it's gotten through about 500 of the set of 1200 I threw at it to start with.

I compiled Seamonkey on that machine twice today as well, each time took around 15-20 minutes, I'd guess. I compiled it twice because I needed to compile it once with '-mtune' and -march' optimizations for the westmere CPU of laptop and then again for the ivy bridge in my desktop. Likely could have used the westmere build on both and it wouldn't have mattered, but I might theoretically get a little better performance/efficiency from it this way. I didn't build it on my laptop itself because it takes a lot longer to build there than it does on the desktop.

Also, my building's internet is trash. I don't know if it's a problem with the cabling or with some server or what, but I've only been able to get a connection via the building-wide wi-fi today; I can't make my personal router (or desktop when plugged in directly) get an IP via DHCP anymore when connecting via cables. A crossover-style cable (via auto MDI-X) between my desktop and laptop still works fine though, so it's not my ethernet cable or NIC's at least.

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I have an old dell 305W atx supply (from a decommissioned optiplex tower) in need of a recap cause it had many bulgy caps- but still seems stable.
I stuck a strip of euro barrier block to the side, pruned down the wires, now it gets to be a bench PSU till it blows up. The exact model goes for cheaper on ebay than I can buy all the caps it 'needs'.
My PC got a 1200W silverstone platinum in it, quite happy with it after ripping out it's non-PWM fan and letting the motherboard deal with controlling a new PWM fan in it. Seasonic and/or Corsair have platinum models with built in provisions for fan control- but I couldn't source one of those.

Ah, mine's actually 305W as well. I just looked. Mine's from a Dimension 4700.
I had a couple swollen caps on that system's motherboard but nothing obvious in the PSU. Should probably replace anyways since that's from the capacitor plague years. I've been using mine as a bench supply as well in recent years, and to just quickly test motherboards.

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post Aug 14 2020, 12:17
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The low latency ram is more important for AMD cpus at the moment, it was really promising that the performance gap dropped significantly with the low latency ram.

RAM that low latency seems to be an exception rather than the trend.

3600mhz CL14 ram is reasonably priced 250-300, but that 4000mhz CL15 ram kit that could do CL13 and boost AMD CPU gaming performance by 16% must have been magical for the same price as the high end CPUs.



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post Aug 14 2020, 14:58
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QUOTE(loli-hujan86 @ Aug 14 2020, 00:39) *

This gen CPU or next gen CPU (e.g Zen 3)? Have you set your target on Nvidia's Ampere?
Does replacing the fan void the manufacturer's warranty?

I would say yes, as I broke a sticker, opened the case, and snipped + heatshrunk off the fan wires.
It's slightly iffy in that if a trace on the motherboard or cable goes bad (including the thermistor I added into the power supply), or the motherboard's fan control goes braindead, the supply can overheat. The new fan is also slightly lower flow.
But, I am using less than half the capacity even doing a full cpu+gpu benchmark, it's a platinum that'll naturally run cooler than a more lossy one, and I see this as considerably less risky than any liquid cooling.

@Catman I went with 64gb of 3600 ram to go with the Ryzen 3700X CPU. If I remember correctly, I have ram tweaked a bit to actually run at 3600, a very slight OC, and undervolting it a good bit. The SSD tends to be warmer than the CPU at full tilt, when combined with the big cooler and fan.

@dragontamer8740 I've never found a crossover wired cable necessary in practice, but at least one end of everything I've tried cabling together is gigabit capable or made after gigabit was common. Fucking laptop makers only putting 100Mb controllers on new machines.

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post Aug 15 2020, 01:54
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Aug 14 2020, 08:58) *

@dragontamer8740 I've never found a crossover wired cable necessary in practice, but at least one end of everything I've tried cabling together is gigabit capable or made after gigabit was common. Fucking laptop makers only putting 100Mb controllers on new machines.

These aren't truly wired crossover ("null modem" style); just auto MDI-X.

And my router is a wrt54g, so a straight cable between machines undercutting the router switch is a massive improvement.

Also, my laptop from 2010 has a gigabit NIC, lol. Are people seriously using 100mbit ones still? I have a hard time believing that for some reason.
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As for the rest, I have replaced fans like that before, too. Although on cheaper cards than that (a GT 630 for instance).

Do you actually come close to using 64GB of RAM? I struggle to use more than 8 (my desktop machine has 16, laptop has 8).

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Meanwhile, zopflipng has now done 682 out of 1267 images. Must be hitting some bigger ones now. So far it's been running for at least two days.

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post Aug 15 2020, 02:54
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New laptops have stopped putting gigabit in, and are going back to 100Mb.
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post Aug 15 2020, 03:00
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Aug 14 2020, 19:54) *

New laptops have stopped putting gigabit in, and are going back to 100Mb.


I'm more surprised consumer laptops still have Ethernet NICs at all at this point, seems like something they'd of phased out to shave costs and make them thinner.

Edit:
Also I'm reminded of [i.imgur.com] this image showcasing the general publics knowledge and appreciation of Ethernet in general.

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post Aug 15 2020, 03:13
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Aug 14 2020, 20:54) *

New laptops have stopped putting gigabit in, and are going back to 100Mb.

But… why?
And when did that start happening?
Just more reason to shun modern hardware I guess.
My Powerbook G4 actually has a gigabit NIC, too.

That image is cringe

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post Aug 15 2020, 03:18
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 14 2020, 20:17) *

The low latency ram is more important for AMD cpus at the moment, it was really promising that the performance gap dropped significantly with the low latency ram.

RAM that low latency seems to be an exception rather than the trend.

3600mhz CL14 ram is reasonably priced 250-300, but that 4000mhz CL15 ram kit that could do CL13 and boost AMD CPU gaming performance by 16% must have been magical for the same price as the high end CPUs.

Mate, the performance in fps is dependent on game code/assets/engine/shaders and varies wildly, usually between 1-10fps and very few games gain more than that.

You're overthinking it, also most ramkits can be overclocked with a good mobo that supports it, either with XMP or manual timings, you can also flash it with software to go overspec or use unofficial bios to force it.

But i do know that AMD has lots of small issues with ram speed not being recognized with every kit.

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post Aug 15 2020, 03:20
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Aug 14 2020, 21:18) *

Mate, the performance in fps is dependent on game code/assets/engine/shaders and varies wildly, usually between 1-10fps and very few games gain more than that.

Rational as always.

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They could have used qemu user space emulation if they really wanted to test it, but it didn't end up mattering. I do similar to run big-endian MIPS IRIX binaries, actually.

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post Aug 15 2020, 13:07
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Looking at the reviews the problem is how hot intel processors run on 14nm+++++++++

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post Aug 15 2020, 19:33
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Spent 10 minutes looking for a way to make cdisplayex open folders of manga from the right click menu in windows.

Then i realized i was searching for shell commands but i was supposed to be looking for context menu and edit in the shell command in the registry...i'm out of practice.

But i made it work how i want eventually.

"C:\Program Files\CDisplayEx\CDisplayEx.exe" "%V"

Now i feel like adding a custom icon before the option.




It's so nice not having to drag folders into the reader anymore or navigate to the manga i want, i just use explorer and rightclick what i want and open it from there and then i can navigate folders with the reader bindings, what a time saver.

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post Aug 17 2020, 07:42
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Lol google is pissing their SJW pants because Australia told them to stop being mean to FoxNews or they would get regulated.

Now the new proposed laws threaten to cut into google's profits in Australia by forcing them to share and they are worried other countries will do the same.

The US government anti-trust hearings were weak sauce, just punch google, facebook and Amazon in the revenue where it hurts and see if they keep their BS up.

Lame but google and the media get third party comment control, so they get to turn off comment sections.
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post Aug 17 2020, 07:58
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Aug 15 2020, 13:33) *

Spent 10 minutes looking for a way to make cdisplayex open folders of manga from the right click menu in windows.

Then i realized i was searching for shell commands but i was supposed to be looking for context menu and edit in the shell command in the registry...i'm out of practice.

But i made it work how i want eventually.

"C:\Program Files\CDisplayEx\CDisplayEx.exe" "%V"

Now i feel like adding a custom icon before the option.
It's so nice not having to drag folders into the reader anymore or navigate to the manga i want, i just use explorer and rightclick what i want and open it from there and then i can navigate folders with the reader bindings, what a time saver.

I had a monstrously hard time associating another image viewer (mcomix) with png images while keeping the default PNG icon (but letting other files associated with it, like JPEG's, have their own icons). I hate windows.

And I just tend to use a shell as my file manager. e.x., 'mcomix "[directory name]"'. I don't even have to wait for thumbnails to generate or a huge directory to get iconified. And search doesn't try to go recursive if I just use 'ls' (or find -maxdepth 1) and 'grep.'

Re: new laptops: Only new ones I'm at all interested in are only sold in Japan unfortunately (and they don't have trackpoints). They all have gigabit ethernet and loads of other nice things, most with non-16:9 screens (taller) and a 12" diagonal measure. The tablet one looks quite appealing as an upgrade to my X201 Tablet, especially with that 3:2 aspect ratio. Its stylus has more pressure sensitivity levels than my current wacom one, too.
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But I mean, look at that. VGA (and HDMI I guess; I wish it were displayport because I know they paid the people responsible for HDCP a licensing fee for that, while it's only a possibility with DisplayPort), gigabit ethernet, SD card reader, USB 3.x A and C ports, a non-chiclet keyboard, a non-16:9 display, and a small form factor I like (about the size of my X201's). And it wasn't made a decade ago. And it's by a company that I have never had a bad product from (and the last holdout to keep making plasma screens to my knowledge, which also earned them brownie points with me).

A toughbook could be cool, too, but those cost a lot too and aren't anywhere near as small. I don't care about thinness/thickness, btw; my X201 stays in its dock 99% of the time even when I'm moving around. I just care about overall how easy it is to fit in a small bag.

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Aren't those laptops from 2016? Can you even buy them still?

There are newer toughbooks available here but they are expensive as fuck.
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Aug 17 2020, 00:58) *

And it's by a company that I have never had a bad product from (and the last holdout to keep making plasma screens to my knowledge, which also earned them brownie points with me).


Plasma never got the love it deserved, I'm gonna be real sad when I have to replace my Panasonic.

As for laptops, I haven't looked recently but last time I did the only ones that had acceptable specs, didn't look like they'd suffer from fall-apart, and wouldn't destroy my wallet were refurb business models. I can't imagine much has changed on that front, although I heard Thinkpads got worse (at least the keyboards).
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Plasma was awesome, LCD tech only just surpassed it last year.

Plasma just failed because in show rooms the bad direct lighting made plasma looks worse.

Best marketing ever. Samsung also sold plasma tvs at a loss to kill it off.
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I often open the same tab twice. I think I move the wrong way when clicking using the wheel of my mouse sometimes.
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QUOTE(uareader @ Aug 17 2020, 13:12) *

I often open the same tab twice. I think I move the wrong way when clicking using the wheel of my mouse sometimes.

that or your mouse's middle-click switch is bouncing (registering multiple times).

It's pretty easy to replace mouse switches usually, if you have a soldering iron and a donor. I've done it on a few of mine. Most (even from different companies) have the same footprint, although many do feel slightly different I don't think I could tell you which of my mouses I'd replaced a switch in.

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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 17 2020, 09:55) *

Plasma was awesome, LCD tech only just surpassed it last year.

Plasma just failed because in show rooms the bad direct lighting made plasma looks worse.

Best marketing ever. Samsung also sold plasma tvs at a loss to kill it off.

My parents' plasma from 2008 (50-55", Panasonic) just started getting a couple 1px vertical columns recently (blue and magenta); I noticed while I was over there.

I hope they either let me have it or let me fix it for them. It's still a great set and at the distance they watch from they wouldn't benefit from a newer LCD. I couldn't bear to see the entire TV junked if it's at all fixable.
OLED burn-in is also significantly worse than plasma or CRT burn-in in my experience.

QUOTE(Scumbini @ Aug 17 2020, 07:01) *

Plasma never got the love it deserved, I'm gonna be real sad when I have to replace my Panasonic.

You treasure that.
I'm still using old professional direct-view CRT monitors because they were cheaper used than plasma sets a few years back (and had the upshot of being great for retro gaming, although my parents' plasma does an admirable job, too, albeit with the interlacing problem).
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As for laptops, I haven't looked recently but last time I did the only ones that had acceptable specs, didn't look like they'd suffer from fall-apart, and wouldn't destroy my wallet were refurb business models. I can't imagine much has changed on that front, although I heard Thinkpads got worse (at least the keyboards).

Thinkpads are far worse now. Lower build quality generally, harder to do maintenance on, less expandible, worse keyboards, 16:9 displays (some of which are glossy iirc). No option to get one without a touchpad either. Prices as high as ever.
The newer Dell Latitudes look acceptable to me, actually, but… those panasonics just have everything. Finding a nice quality laptop that doesn't use 16:9 is the hardest, and some of those laptops even have optical drives.

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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Aug 17 2020, 13:09) *

OLED burn-in is also significantly worse than plasma or CRT burn-in in my experience.


That's a shame, I was assuming whenever the time came to get a new TV that's what I'd go for but that was obviously one of my considerations. My only experience with OLED is phone screens, and while I haven't had any burn in on them I also don't use my phone nearly as much as a TV or a monitor.

I'll likely still go that route unless something better comes along, and as I don't plan on changing any time soon and no disaster occurs that's a distinct possibility.
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