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post Jun 22 2019, 12:23
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QUOTE(WheldrakeX @ Jun 21 2019, 16:57) *
So I wanted to make a bootable USB for Win10 with Microsoft's MCT. Turns out Fat32 isn't good enough anymore for that 'cause it failed repeatedly. Formatted with NTFS and it worked. Why can't MS just tell me beforehand that it needs a NTFS formatted stick?! Also, every time you run the MCT it has to redownload the ISO...
I just checked, and my bootable usb key to install Windows 10 is in FAT32.
I don't remember what I used to make it, maybe it was different from your "MCT" and that's why I didn't have this issue? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 22 2019, 12:46
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QUOTE(uareader @ Jun 22 2019, 12:23) *

I just checked, and my bootable usb key to install Windows 10 is in FAT32.
I don't remember what I used to make it, maybe it was different from your "MCT" and that's why I didn't have this issue? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

MCT is the Media Creation Tool by Microsoft. It's their official tool to download Windows 10 ISOs and/or create bootable USBs or DVDs. I use Windows 10 since it came out and I always used my USB stick in FAT32 and it worked fine (the last time I did it a few months ago it also failed once but worked the second time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)) but this time it just failed 5 or 6 times in a row always at the same spot at 50%. Then I formatted the stick in NTFS and it worked the first time.
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post Jun 22 2019, 14:13
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Jun 22 2019, 18:26) *

Because no one should use fat32 for anything except for interoperability anymore?

NTFS is a bad filesystem for flashdrives, fat32 is universal, more simple and less prone to fail during bootup.
The inverse is true for HD's.


But i don't know why he doesn't just download a WIN10 iso and burn it with Rufus.
I wouldn't tolerate a program that keeps failing and redownloading data that i should already have...*looks at MTG Arena*.
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post Jun 22 2019, 15:22
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jun 22 2019, 14:13) *

But i don't know why he doesn't just download a WIN10 iso and burn it with Rufus.
I wouldn't tolerate a program that keeps failing and redownloading data that i should already have...*looks at MTG Arena*.

I just thought that the official tool by MS should be able to do what it's supposed to do.
And I did have it fail before in the past and then work on the second try.
Oh well, in the end I got it working.
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post Jun 22 2019, 15:48
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post Jun 23 2019, 14:17
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Need advice. I just migrated Win10 OS from a HDD to a Nvme SSD by using Acronis True Image's Clone Disk tool. When I checked the Partition Starting Offset values in System Information, they're divisible by 4096. But I checked using Diskpart, the offset is less 1024KB. So does that mean the SSD need realignment?

Also, which is best for correct alignment: 1024 or 4096? And is there a way to do the realignment without data loss (e.g. reformatting)?


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post Jun 24 2019, 13:03
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jun 22 2019, 08:13) *

NTFS is a bad filesystem for flashdrives, fat32 is universal, more simple and less prone to fail during bootup.
The inverse is true for HD's.
But i don't know why he doesn't just download a WIN10 iso and burn it with Rufus.
I wouldn't tolerate a program that keeps failing and redownloading data that i should already have...*looks at MTG Arena*.

I expect anyone who uses a computer for more than checking facebook to know that FAT32 partitions have a 4GB file size limit and to avoid it whenever possible

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post Jun 25 2019, 00:55
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Jun 24 2019, 21:03) *

I expect anyone who uses a computer for more than checking facebook to know that FAT32 partitions have a 4GB file size limit and to avoid it whenever possible

I think that's only for a single file, a bootable usb stick shouldn't be affected.
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post Jun 25 2019, 05:54
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jun 24 2019, 18:55) *

I think that's only for a single file, a bootable usb stick shouldn't be affected.

I forget how big it is, but windows 7 at least had a large 'install.wim' file containing most of the DLL's and such necessary for an installation.
As a single file, it could well be even larger in 8 or 10, possibly reaching 4GiB. I'd believe it, with how much the installation size ballooned from XP to 7 (XP, admittedly, did not use an install.wim file, but a bunch of .cab archives).
That's what I was thinking, but I have no install media newer than Windows 7.

Edit: Yes; it appears I was correct in that assumption.
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Off topic, but 7-zip can unpack install.wim, if you ever need to grab files from an install medium. I believe that's how I got the group policy editor in my Windows 7 Home Premium installation years ago.

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post Jun 25 2019, 09:31
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Jun 25 2019, 05:54) *

I forget how big it is, but windows 7 at least had a large 'install.wim' file containing most of the DLL's and such necessary for an installation.
As a single file, it could well be even larger in 8 or 10, possibly reaching 4GiB. I'd believe it, with how much the installation size ballooned from XP to 7 (XP, admittedly, did not use an install.wim file, but a bunch of .cab archives).
That's what I was thinking, but I have no install media newer than Windows 7.

Edit: Yes; it appears I was correct in that assumption.
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[www.tenforums.com] https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/118137-...r-than-4gb.html

Off topic, but 7-zip can unpack install.wim, if you ever need to grab files from an install medium. I believe that's how I got the group policy editor in my Windows 7 Home Premium installation years ago.
On my FAT32 Windows 10 install usb key, there's a "install.esd" file of 3.37 GB, that's the biggest thing around.
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post Jun 25 2019, 15:33
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I think my flash media is a mix of fat32 and ext3. Can't say I have NTFS anywhere except partitions used to multiboot with windows.
As far as installing OSs goes, XP is the only one I have media for, haven't used anything newer on a personal machine. After using the preinstalled vista on a laptop for a bit, then trying a wubi of xubuntu I haven't really looked back.

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post Jun 26 2019, 17:32
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QUOTE(uareader @ Jun 25 2019, 03:31) *

On my FAT32 Windows 10 install usb key, there's a "install.esd" file of 3.37 GB, that's the biggest thing around.

Yes, I was talking about the files present on optical installation media, though. Since last I checked that's what you create an installation USB from
install.esd is created from install.wim's contents, iirc.
Been a long time since I bothered with that OS anyway

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post Jun 27 2019, 09:00
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It took Apple forever to finally add a download section in Safari
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post Jun 27 2019, 15:43
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I don't know if the disk cady that was already in the tower or the one I got on amazon is Dell- neither seem to have a brand marking. The amazon one is way nicer though, metal pins instead of tiny plastic nibs.
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post Jun 28 2019, 11:58
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It took Apple forever to finally add a download section in Safari

There was at least a reason for that, since they had that downloads thing in the finder bar. If you used Safari on Windows (remember when that was a thing? Like, nine years ago?) I believe there was a downloads dialog.
Apple's still dumb though

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post Jul 1 2019, 22:05
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Oi, I have an SSD in either machine now, but now I have to reinatall xubuntu to rake advantage.
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jul 1 2019, 16:05) *

Oi, I have an SSD in either machine now, but now I have to reinatall xubuntu to rake advantage.

You could just do a binary copy of your old disk to the new SSD

cat /dev/sda > /dev/sdb for instance, to copy /dev/sda to /dev/sdb.

Assuming /dev/sdb is large enough of course.
Then resize the partition to fill the remaining space if applicable.

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I hadn't installed any programs of consequence, so easier just to start from scratch and arrange things how I want em.
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jul 3 2019, 09:35) *

I hadn't installed any programs of consequence, so easier just to start from scratch and arrange things how I want em.

mmkay then. Have fun.

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