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post Jun 12 2019, 07:50
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MSI really loves PS/2. Even in 2019, their motherboards have one.

Well, my Asus x470 has it as well. IIRC PS/2 has less delay than USB so it provides a higher control speed in cybersport or something like that.

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post Jun 12 2019, 09:16
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jun 12 2019, 01:50) *

Well, my Asus x470 has it as well. IIRC PS/2 has less delay than USB so it provides a higher control speed in cybersport or something like that.

It has the potential for less latency, and also USB 2.0 generic HID keyboard drivers only support up to six pressed keys at once.
In reality, the latency isn't consequential or noticeable for 99.999% of the population.
I still like PS/2 (really AT protocol) keyboards because they're simpler to implement, both from the keyboard controller side and from the side of the device listening to the keyboard.
I'm making an RS-232 VT100 clone using a microcontroller and mostly discrete external logic for I/O as a hobby project, so AT protocol (PS/2 refers to AT protocol over a 6 pin mini-DIN connector) was the logical choice.

(The external logic is to handle listening to the board and acting as an input buffer, since the microcontroller's going to be spending most of its time redrawing the display (I'm driving a CRT TV in black and white using bit banging) and the only time the controller will be able to perform other operations will be during the horizontal and vertical blanking periods.)

If I have any pins left over, I might even make the terminal output one-bit RGB signals eventually, or maybe just a second dimmer shade in black and white via a resistor ladder. I have an RGB monitor, so it'd be pretty simple to test.

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post Jun 12 2019, 10:07
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jun 12 2019, 13:50) *

Well, my Asus x470 has it as well. IIRC PS/2 has less delay than USB so it provides a higher control speed in cybersport or something like that.

You are right. After checking out websites by ASRock, ECS Elite & the goddamn motherfucker that is BIOSTAR, their motherboards have a single PS/2 port as well. Gigabyte & Colorful are the only vendors not supporting PS/2.
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post Jun 12 2019, 10:40
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QUOTE(Super-hujan86 @ Jun 12 2019, 04:07) *

You are right. After checking out websites by ASRock, ECS Elite & the goddamn motherfucker that is BIOSTAR, their motherboards have a single PS/2 port as well. Gigabyte & Colorful are the only vendors not supporting PS/2.

My asrock board has PS/2, thanks for confirming new ones do, too. That's a relief, if I ever shop for new PC parts again anytime soon. There are still options, I guess.

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post Jun 12 2019, 12:24
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[www.opera.com] Opera GX is surprisinly amusing. Nice customization, resource control (you can limit how much CPU and RAM it may use), built-in news aggregators and usual Opera features like VPN and such.
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post Jun 13 2019, 00:29
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jun 12 2019, 06:24) *

[www.opera.com] Opera GX is surprisinly amusing. Nice customization, resource control (you can limit how much CPU and RAM it may use), built-in news aggregators and usual Opera features like VPN and such.

It's still just Chrome but even more proprietary and un-trustable
I don't see what the big deal is with it and vivaldi, they're both inferior to Mozilla's offerings (though Mozilla used to be better, too).
I mean, back in the presto days Opera actually had some neat features that Webkit/Blink didn't, like APNG support and a pretty cool live HTML editor. Sure, you can sort of do that in debugging tools in-browser now, but it was awesome back then.

Then it hopped on the blink bandwagon and didn't have APNG support for about six years, until Google finally became the last major non-microsoft vendor to adopt it
And now Microsoft is on the bandwagon, too.

And in addition to that, none of them (new edge or chrome or vivaldi) are as auditable as their upstream parent. Feels like a dangerous game, especially when there are next to zero benefits besides pseudoelitism (it's still just chrome under the hood, but check out the wheel stance! It looks so much cooler now that it scrapes on leaves! Oh, duuude, check out that underglow! That's totally sick, bruh.)

And limiting CPU usage is wasting cycles, unless you're just talking about changing priority. I could achieve the same thing by locking my browser to one core and capping that core at 400mhz or whatever, but it would be horrible. Task scheduling is opportunistic - If nothing else is waiting to use it, it makes sense to use your CPU cycles instead of inserting pointless NOP's in between instructions.

Also, RAM limitations: if I had a sane and rational reason to limit RAM usage (which I do not, since I have _never_ run out of RAM while browsing in firefox/seamonkey due to sane tab/window management), I would be able to do this in any browser with cgroups.

What happens if you brush up against your imposed RAM cap? My guesses are at least one of:
1) it blows right through the cap and gives a warning
2) it automatically closes tabs least recently used
3) it crashes with some stupid memory allocation error
4) it refuses to open additional tabs until you've closed some tabs or re-opened the browser to free up the leaked memory Blink is so famous for.

The truth is that your browser will be just as RAM hoggy as Chrome/Chromium because it uses the same engine.

Full disclosure: I've been awake for 24 hours so I hope what I'm saying is factual and sensible as I think it is

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post Jun 17 2019, 15:48
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Picked the exact wrong graphics card, the linux driver was misssed in 18.04LTS because it was assumed another package replaced it. Even after wrangling it up and getting it to run, it's frame buffer only and the second monitor just copies the first one...
Somebody send me a low-profile AGP graphics card that supports dual vga monitors and windows XP.
EDIT: The one giving me issue is a Maxtron Millenium G550. It works fully in XP.

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post Jun 17 2019, 17:15
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jun 17 2019, 09:48) *

Picked the exact wrong graphics card, the linux driver was misssed in 18.04LTS because it was assumed another package replaced it. Even after wrangling it up and getting it to run, it's frame buffer only and the second monitor just copies the first one...
Somebody send me a low-profile AGP graphics card that supports dual vga monitors and windows XP.
EDIT: The one giving me issue is a Maxtron Millenium G550. It works fully in XP.

Maxtron?
Do you mean matrox?
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If you lived nearby you could just pick up one of my random AGP cards if you wanted. I've got an nvidia TNT2 and a 3dfx Voodoo3.
It's not low profile, but low profile computers suck. Just stick it on its side and leave the lid off.

This post brought to you by 2003, which called and wants its pentium 4 back. Get a new(er) motherboard, unless you need your ISA slots.

Also, you could always just not use 18.04 and pick a better distro.

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post Jun 17 2019, 18:15
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Ah, I did mean Matrox. Clamshell case won't really work with that...
Need the old computer to run the old OS and programs with minimal hassle, just a touch annoying I only have one monitor under linux.
It has to be an old enough card tbat xp can use it- and only single slot.
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post Jun 17 2019, 18:50
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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jun 17 2019, 12:15) *

Ah, I did mean Matrox.

OK.
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Clamshell case won't really work with that...

Yeah it will. Just won't look good or be good. The lid being cracked open will make it stand upright.
Or you could get a classic flat style case, like a 5150 case, and modify the mount points. Those'd be tall enough.
Or you could get a standing tower case from the dumpster behind a PC repair shop.
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Need the old computer to run the old OS and programs with minimal hassle, just a touch annoying I only have one monitor under linux.
It has to be an old enough card tbat xp can use it- and only single slot.

Single slot is fine, old enough for XP is fine (nvidia TNT2 is ancient). I've used XP with my TNT2 before.

Again, I would throw it out and get a better computer out of a dumpster, possibly saving the hard disks and RAM if you have other old machines.

Also, AGAIN, if ubuntu 18.04 has shit drivers just use a different distro or upgrade the kernel manually.

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Found a cheapo core2duo machine. Optiplex 745, 4x sata ports, lots of bays, 2 pci and 2 pci express slots. It has a pci express graphics card already, I'll see if it's card works for me.
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I just took all the keys off of my laptop's keyboard to get the hair and crap out from under the keys. I then put it back together without breaking anything in the process.

Feels good.

QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jun 18 2019, 11:29) *

Found a cheapo core2duo machine. Optiplex 745, 4x sata ports, lots of bays, 2 pci and 2 pci express slots. It has a pci express graphics card already, I'll see if it's card works for me.

If it's the original card it was sold with, and it's not just integrated, it'll be a Radeon X1300 with either 128MB or 256MB of RAM.
Around the same age as my Powerbook G4, but a bit more powerful.

Should have both linux and windows XP drivers. with AMD cards of that age, the linux drivers might be a little bit ignored. They should work, though, in the end. They'll work better in an Intel machine than the PowerPC macs that represent my only experience with old ATI hardware in linux that wasn't absolutely ancient.

I have an older RV300 series card, the radeon 9700, in my Powerbook G4, and it works, nominally. The powermacs have some weird issues with those chipsets in linux, but they apparently still work fine on intel-based hardware to this day.

My even older RV100 series chipset in my IBM netburst server worked as well as it could be expected to in Linux. I played runescape in it without issue. But I usually left it turned off because it had two 3.6GHz pentium 4 era Xeon CPU's inside and I didn't want to spend a fortune on electricity. It became my "I need to access a parallel SCSI disk" machine, meaning my "amiga file transfer" machine.

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He ignored my best offer, looking at one with cpu and ram already upgraded but no card in it. Still after dual VGA outputs atm, but dual DVI would be nice if I find two monitors that are fairly similar.
Edit: I remember that MS's windows disca don't seem to work with a sata boot drive, but I have dell OE media with some driver slipstreamed in, so should work out fine.
Edit 2: k, bought the optiplex 745with good cpu and ram already, just need gfx now.

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QUOTE(Wayward_Vagabond @ Jun 19 2019, 08:38) *

He ignored my best offer, looking at one with cpu and ram already upgraded but no card in it. Still after dual VGA outputs atm, but dual DVI would be nice if I find two monitors that are fairly similar.
Edit: I remember that MS's windows disca don't seem to work with a sata boot drive, but I have dell OE media with some driver slipstreamed in, so should work out fine.
Edit 2: k, bought the optiplex 745with good cpu and ram already, just need gfx now.

Don't forget DVI-I is basically VGA
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So I wanted to make a bootable USB for Win10 with Microsoft's MCT. Turns out Fat32 isn't good enough anymore for that 'cause it failed repeatedly. Formatted with NTFS and it worked. Why can't MS just tell me beforehand that it needs a NTFS formatted stick?! Also, every time you run the MCT it has to redownload the ISO...

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Phew. To think that I almost bought their RAMs for dirt cheap prices. As Linus said, cheap doesn't equate to good value.



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So I wanted to make a bootable USB for Win10 with Microsoft's MCT. Turns out Fat32 isn't good enough anymore for that 'cause it failed repeatedly. Formatted with NTFS and it worked. Why can't MS just tell me beforehand that it needs a NTFS formatted stick?! Also, every time you run the MCT it has to redownload the ISO...

Because no one should use fat32 for anything except for interoperability anymore?
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Because no one should use fat32 for anything except for interoperability anymore?

I know it's an old filesystem but it doesn't help that the format function in windows defaults to it.
It also worked fine in the past when I made USBs for older Windows 10 builds.
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