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post May 22 2019, 14:33
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I just got a Sega Master System.
Will probably only end up ever playing Phantasy Star on it, but I still love it.

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post May 22 2019, 15:19
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ May 22 2019, 14:33) *

I just got a Sega Master System.
Will probably only end up ever playing Phantasy Star on it, but I still love it.
Do modern versions of Master System still load an Alex Kidd game if no game cartridge (or any modern replacement) is used?

edit: ok, I checked wikipedia, and it seems the game included in the hardware of the Master System can vary, not necessarily Alex Kidd.

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post May 22 2019, 17:04
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post May 22 2019, 17:53
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QUOTE(uareader @ May 22 2019, 09:19) *

Do modern versions of Master System still load an Alex Kidd game if no game cartridge (or any modern replacement) is used?

Maybe?
Mine's an original model, made on October 14 1986, according to the stamp on the PCB, so the only game on it is Snail Maze. And it only takes cartridges or Sega Cards.

I am under the impression that the newest ones do, though.
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Also, I wish the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive had the option to use something like a Sega Card to hold save data for Sega CD/Mega CD games.
Then it would have been non-volatile and not as expensive to find extra save space for (in form of that memory cartridge).
Yeah, I have a Sega CD. I like the Lunar enough games that it's (almost) worth it.
The one I bought was bundled with a Model 1 VA7 genesis (the one with the guts of a Model 2 with integrated FM synth), so I modded that one's sound amplifier circuitry to make it not shit and traded it for my copy of Phantasy Star and a copy of NES Kirby's Adventure (both boxed with manuals) (I already had a model 1 when i bought the CD).

I'm waiting for a friend of mine to be in town since he wanted to see how I mod some of my consoles, and then I'm going to put RCA jacks carrying RGB on the back of this and at the same time AV mod my latest Famicom import (I've had four Famicoms).

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High speed internet connection is awesome

I wish that more people actually seeded the torrents I try to download. It's always just that one random dude in Croatia or Ukraine or wherever using a 56k modem who puts his computer to sleep when he goes to bed.

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post May 23 2019, 01:37
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Is Phantasy Star really that good? Never had a SEGA so I stayed with the Chrono Cross, FFVI and the likes. When I go into emulator age I heard and tried to play Phantasy Star but never exited the initial town.
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post May 23 2019, 08:07
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Is Phantasy Star really that good? Never had a SEGA so I stayed with the Chrono Cross, FFVI and the likes. When I go into emulator age I heard and tried to play Phantasy Star but never exited the initial town.

It's the best 8 bit RPG I've played, and I've played all the 8 bit dragon quests, final fantasies, Ys games, Mother, and so on.
Especially if you play the fan translation that has the FM synthesized sound intact (Japan got an addon for the MarkIII for FM synthesis, incredible boost to the sound quality of the system).

It has a lot of heart, a lot of quirkiness, good graphics, and (after the brief grind at the start), good solid gameplay.
Might want to use a guide if you're in a hurry, though. It's sort of linear but it doesn't really remind you where to go if you miss it.

Between it and Phantasy Star 4 for the Genesis/Mega Drive, I'm not sure which I like more. 4 is great and definitely the most "modernized," has a stronger story (though not as strong as II's), and great little funny cutscenes in anime/manga style, but again that first game has so much heart and so many interesting features that get dropped in favor of a more typical JRPG in 4.

Phantasy Star II has a strong story, but the game is totally and unforgivingly brutal. I beat the first game and tried II, ran out of steam really quickly. Might be more enjoyable for me with a game genie so I can breeze through the difficulty and just treat it like a visual novel.

As for III... We don't talk about III.

I did get all the way through 1, though, so yeah the game play was much more fun there, IMO.

I never had Sega stuff until recently, either. I kind of ran out of pre-network-botnet Nintendo stuff I wanted and could afford.


One thing that would definitely point in favor of 4 is that (in America) it's much less costly/difficult to get a genesis and 4 (given that there are lots of other good Genesis games) than it is to buy an SMS just for the original, which was never a big seller here, or a Power Base Converter for playing it on a genesis, which is also expensive. There aren't too many SMS games that (IMO) are worth playing, though I know there are some rabid fans.

Also I'm not sure about this but it feels like Phantasy Star IV is more common than the first game if you're trying to buy locally like I was.

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post May 24 2019, 02:14
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I absolutely loathe the American SNES console with the purple buttons and square body, give me the JP/EU pal version with the multicolor buttons and contoured body any day.

Back in those days i barely had cartridges, i don't even remember what games i had because i quickly went to the chinese street and bought a copier to load all the roms from floppy discs, i still have all of it and thousands of games on in trays on floppy.

I could save the games and dump the data on floppy and load it whenever i wanted and completely bypass the onboard memory of the cartridge.

I bought magazines to keep up to date on new games and bought cheatbooks too.


Games i played on SNES were mostly jrpg's and a few adventure/beatemup games with family.
Played super adventure island, ghosts & goblins and all the FF games but i don't think i ever got into phantasy star or dragon quest, i don't think NA versions existed for those games back then.
Others include the tales of spike mcfang, illusion of gaia, legend of mana and a bunch of others i can't remember.
One jrpg that made me rage a lot was breath of fire, at one point you get a fox/wolf companion with a boomerang and you gotta travel on the worldmap to other places to continue but there was no way to pass the ocean/mountain/sea so i abandoned that game so many different times in my life until one day i replayed it and discovered that to continue i had to press LR/RL buttons to switch the leader of the party to the fox so i could pass through forest tiles...
For playing with family and friends i played street fighter(turbo i think), pocky & rocky, wild guns(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-fl4MO0uA holy shit we played this a lot), smash tv(oh god the flashbacks "i'd buy that for a dollar") final fight guy, battletoads or TMNT i can't remember which frogs, bomberman, parodius(imagine a lewd/surreal version of gradius) and a bunch of other stuff.


On the megadrive i used to fucking love horizons : uncharted waters(fell in love with yoko kanno at this time), it was a superior version to the SNES one, other honorable mentions include shadowrun(also superior version to SNES) and black thorn.
For coop we played 2 crude dudes, golden axe 1&2&3(all the stunlocks!!!), streets of rage and maybe a little bit of mortal kombat because of the gore.


On the master system we played altered beast and jesus christ that alex the kidd game, i barely remember games for this console.

And on the NES we played mario, castlevania and duckhunt(with the pistol of course).


Occasionally we dusted off the Atari and played some pong, pacman, space invaders and that game with lines and nukes, think it was missile command.

On the amiga i'd play ultima and some other d&d type games.
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post May 24 2019, 03:01
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ May 24 2019, 01:14) *
One jrpg that made me rage a lot was breath of fire, at one point you get a fox/wolf companion with a boomerang and you gotta travel on the worldmap to other places to continue but there was no way to pass the ocean/mountain/sea so i abandoned that game so many different times in my life until one day i replayed it and discovered that to continue i had to press LR/RL buttons to switch the leader of the party to the fox so i could pass through forest tiles...
Oh, how vividly i still remember that.
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post May 24 2019, 16:05
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ May 23 2019, 20:14) *

I absolutely loathe the American SNES console with the purple buttons and square body, give me the JP/EU pal version with the multicolor buttons and contoured body any day.

Agreed. I imported a Famicom and Super Famicom for this reason.
QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ May 23 2019, 20:14) *

Back in those days i barely had cartridges, i don't even remember what games i had because i quickly went to the chinese street and bought a copier to load all the roms from floppy discs, i still have all of it and thousands of games on in trays on floppy.

I never lived somewhere where I could easily obtain a copier, and my parents would have had moral problems with mailing out for one. "Don't copy that floppy!" propaganda and all that.
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i don't think i ever got into phantasy star or dragon quest, i don't think NA versions existed for those games back then.

If you lived in USA, they definitely did. All 1-4. Just not the two Game Gear titles. Same story in most of Europe.
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And they gave away Dragon Quest 1 (rebadged as "Dragon Warrior") with subscriptions to Nintendo Power. All the Famicom Dragon Quests got very high quality releases stateside. I don't think they got European releases, though.
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Others include the tales of spike mcfang, illusion of gaia, legend of mana and a bunch of others i can't remember.

Mana's good.
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One jrpg that made me rage a lot was breath of fire, at one point you get a fox/wolf companion with a boomerang and you gotta travel on the worldmap to other places to continue but there was no way to pass the ocean/mountain/sea so i abandoned that game so many different times in my life until one day i replayed it and discovered that to continue i had to press LR/RL buttons to switch the leader of the party to the fox so i could pass through forest tiles...

Lol, I did that, too. Pissed me off so much. Otherwise I quite like BoF, though. Dated and simplistic as it might be compared to FF6 (3, whatever) or Chrono Trigger.
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smash tv(oh god the flashbacks "i'd buy that for a dollar")

I remembered seeing that game in Nintendo Power and I never bought it. Always kind of wanted to. Just didn't get around to it before it disappeared.
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parodius(imagine a lewd/surreal version of gradius)

I have a friend who's really into bullet hell shmup games like that, so I don't need to imagine. It's kind of terrifying, but also wonderful.
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On the megadrive i used to fucking love horizons : uncharted waters(fell in love with yoko kanno at this time)

Respect +1 for Yoko Kanno
QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ May 23 2019, 20:14) *

For coop we played 2 crude dudes, golden axe 1&2&3(all the stunlocks!!!), streets of rage and maybe a little bit of mortal kombat because of the gore.

I always liked Gauntlet on NES for co-op. And later I loved Tengen Tetris, but I never even saw it growing up due to the lawsuits.
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On the master system we played altered beast and jesus christ that alex the kidd game, i barely remember games for this console.

Yeah, Phantasy Star's definitely the one very memorable one we got here. And the only game I really got an SMS for.
100% without a doubt the best RPG pre-1990. Possibly for a few years after.

QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ May 23 2019, 20:14) *

And on the NES we played mario, castlevania and duckhunt(with the pistol of course).

Castlevania is one of four NES games I've ever beaten. Others are Mario 2 (Yume Kojo: Doki Doki Panic), Kirby's Adventure, and much later a fan translated version of Final Fantasy 3 on a flash cart. I love 3's and 5's job systems. FF3's definitely the second best 8-bit RPG after Phantasy Star.
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Occasionally we dusted off the Atari and played some pong, pacman, space invaders and that game with lines and nukes, think it was missile command.

Yeah that'd be Missile Command. Ever play River Raid? That was my favorite (so colorful, too).
But 2600 games don't really hold my interest longer than a few minutes usually.

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I just recently acquired an Amiga 500 and I've got to play it more.

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Gaming motherboard, gaming mouse, gaming keyboard, gaming monitor, gaming router, gaming desk, gaming chair... What's next? What else could they possibly slap the term 'gaming' on? Wait. Say what? A gaming browser? That's a thing? Wow. I'd never see this coming. Seriously.

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post May 25 2019, 08:14
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post May 26 2019, 05:28
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RGB gaming car
A regular car but with RGB underlighting and RGB lights behind the disc brakes and RGB interior lighting, with the cables all so tightly packed and aggressively cable tied that it'd be easier to buy a new RGB GAMING CAR than to replace a wiring harness.

Oh also it takes 97 octane fuel and uses liquid cooling and a 100% enclosed engine bay to reduce noise and prevent air accidentally being allowed to cool the car while in motion.

Also a HUD windshield which turns black when a crash is imminent in parody of the peril-sensitive sunglasses of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy fame.

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[www.aorus.com] X570 AORUS XTREME (rev 1.0)

This better be way more expensive than your X470 Gaming Wifi 7, Gigabyte. At least 1.5x higher.
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[www.aorus.com] X570 AORUS XTREME (rev 1.0)

This better be way more expensive than your X470 Gaming Wifi 7, Gigabyte. At least 1.5x higher.

OK, that was funny to me, but you probably didn't mean it this way.
Gotta love it when you advertise your shitware on your motherboard box instead of "it does what it's fucking supposed to do"
And all the bullshit comparisons "5x faster compared to some obscenely stupid setup"
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