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post Oct 22 2016, 16:22
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If those latest benchmarks are accurate, then Kaby Lake isn't a worthy upgrade for Skylake owners.
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post Oct 23 2016, 03:44
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 15 2016, 09:06) *

I don't know how Disqus could say my comment is spam. Or did some trolls flag it as such? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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One week had passed but my comment still isn't restored. Either the people of Disqus are all useless or they aren't staffed at all.
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post Oct 23 2016, 03:55
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You mean that you do not consider their neural nets, running on 200 GPUs and performing NLP, to be a good amount of staff?
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post Oct 23 2016, 11:57
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 22 2016, 04:24) *

Kinda pissed me off because it made my purchased card look like a broken version. Then, after a while, I said "Meh. Let's just wait wait until next year when Vega 10 & Vega 11 launches." The RX580 should be an interesting GPU aside from the monster that could be the RX590 & its dual-GPU version.


Yeah, I'm still sitting on HD6970 so just about anything would be an upgrade for me. Then again, I want to sit on the next card for at least 5 years, like I was planning on sitting on this. Turned to 6 years, might turn to 7. It's been delightfully good card tbh, and still can run the latest games well enough for me. So guess I might wait for RX500 and GTX 2000 series
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post Oct 23 2016, 12:24
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Anybody know a free site/application that updates your drivers for you?

I usually use Driver booster 3. I hope it works for you too.
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post Oct 27 2016, 21:39
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I used Leafpad for the first time today and it's infuriating that when I drag a file into it, it types out the location instead of opening the file.
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post Oct 29 2016, 18:50
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The manual says the RAM module must be installed according to the following config: DIMM2, DIMM2/4 & DIMM1/2/3/4. I looked at my mobo and saw that the single 8GB RAM module is installed in DIMM1 slot. Didn't see any problems there as my PC boots up OK every time (albeit with a missing BIOS splash screen).
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post Oct 29 2016, 20:20
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For the first time in a long time, I went to Youtube.
And this time I thought: I really want to get fullscreen videos.

And so I searched and found the "Youtube Flash Video Player" plugin that did the trick.

Seriously, Youtube should not implement HTML5 until they can get it to work in fullscreen (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Oct 30 2016, 02:35
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How much improvement M.2 has over SATA3 in terms of real life performance?

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post Oct 30 2016, 03:49
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 29 2016, 17:35) *
How much improvement M.2 has over SATA3 in terms of real life performance?

Currently, you're limited by the device's hardware speed, which fluctuates around 530-540 MB/s of the 600 MB/s ceiling of SATA 3.0, which means you won't be able to saturate the SATA 3.0 maximum connection speed let alone M.2's 1969 MB/s ceiling. This is for devices featuring SATA 3.0 as well as ones with M.2 connections.

The highest performing consumer SSD's I've seen are [www.newegg.com] specialty devices that were built for read performance using a PCI-E connection that can read at 725 MB/s, falling short of the advertised read speed which is 1500 MB/s. Even then, their write speed is still limited to that of normal SATA 3.0 SSDs, if not worse.
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post Oct 30 2016, 04:34
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QUOTE(chriseras @ Oct 30 2016, 09:49) *

Currently, you're limited by the device's hardware speed, which fluctuates around 530-540 MB/s of the 600 MB/s ceiling of SATA 3.0, which means you won't be able to saturate the SATA 3.0 maximum connection speed let alone M.2's 1969 MB/s ceiling. This is for devices featuring SATA 3.0 as well as ones with M.2 connections.

The highest performing consumer SSD's I've seen are [www.newegg.com] specialty devices that were built for read performance using a PCI-E connection that can read at 725 MB/s, falling short of the advertised read speed which is 1500 MB/s. Even then, their write speed is still limited to that of normal SATA 3.0 SSDs, if not worse.

In conclusion, there's little incentive to move from SATA to M.2 when I plan to upgrade my SSD's capacity.

On another note, prices for 500GB M.2 SSD on Newegg varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. I really thought M.2 SSDs are typically more expensive than their SATA3 counterparts.
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post Oct 30 2016, 04:41
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In conclusion, there's little incentive to move from SATA to M.2 when I plan to upgrade my SSD's capacity.

Other than future-proofing, there's little incentive.
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post Oct 30 2016, 11:37
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Most decent motherboards have m2 capability. Its main advantage is if you are trying to build a really small computer like itx or nuc.

I don't use them yet because i an worried about them being close to the graphics cards usually which are effectively space heaters.
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Oct 30 2016, 17:37) *

Most decent motherboards have m2 capability. Its main advantage is if you are trying to build a really small computer like itx or nuc.

I don't use them yet because i an worried about them being close to the graphics cards usually which are effectively space heaters.

I was really intrigued when I read in the manual that M.2 has 8x the bandwidth of SATA3. There're 2 available M.2 slots on the motherboard. One located between the VRMs & CPU, one right beneath the PCIe x16 slot. Since I'm using a third-party air cooler for the CPU, installing U2 host card on the first M.2 slot would mean disrupting the airflow between the CPU cooler & the casing fan.

As chriseras mentioned in his post, it's not worth moving from SATA to M.2 - for the time being. Maybe one day when manufacturers finally create a controller chip that could actually saturate SATA3's bandwidth & I could afford a high end ATX-sized motherboard with more convenient slot placements.
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:30
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As Esoteric mentioned, M.2 is neat in that they're used for building small computers like ITXs/NUCs. SATA connectors are just too large. The downside being that they're close to the graphics card which can degrade the read/write performance. Depending on the temperature, you can get anywhere from 5-15% performance degradation. I've personally seen up to 70% degradation with flash memory, but you'll run the equipment so hard that the component is actually hot to the touch, but slightly under burning.

M.2's are mainly used on server racks in data centers where the emphasis is on delivery speed. In places like those, there's also excellent cooling (basically inside a refrigerator) so there's no worry of being next to a GPU in the off-chance that the particular server actually has a GPU for accelerator applications. If it's a pure data server, there won't even be a GPU connected to the board.

I'm still biased towards hard disks though for the reliability factor in terms of data permanence. Ran an SSD past the breaking point where data corruption became a major failure point. But it was in an application where there wasn't enough RAM and swap space was needed, which is why an SSD was used. Sure, it's slow, but it's still faster than a hard disk when swap space usage was absolutely necessary. Luckily, don't need to do that anymore, so wallet can rest easy.
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post Oct 31 2016, 11:39
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 13 2016, 19:17) *

[news.softpedia.com] There Are 5,761 Online Stores Currently Infected with Card-Data-Stealing Malware

The replies from the store owners are appalling. If only all people read news about online security, they all would probably stop doing business with these online stores, forcing them to get their payment pages fixed up ASAP.


Lol the republican website sending credit card details to Putin. Such traitors.
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post Nov 1 2016, 05:17
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Lol the republican website sending credit card details to Putin. Such traitors.

Clinton's server had been sending data rated NOFORN (and above) to everyone and their mother, who had the IP because of the screwup of a system admin who accidentally leaked the IP on Reddit. Both the Clinton email server and the NRSC web commerce servers (which was using Magento for web commerce) were asking for it. Major KEKs if they were also using Wordpress, which is Swiss cheese if improperly hardened. There's a reason system admins hate it.

Imagine if someone was found using Roundcube! AHAHAHA!!!

Hoping for something new to come out to throw more gasoline onto the fire for amusement.

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post Nov 1 2016, 05:54
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Why does it seem so easy to hack in stuff?
You never seem to heard any headlines reading:
"X thrawts hacking attempt, traced hackers location"


Maybe I should be a hacker when I graduate.
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post Nov 1 2016, 17:34
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 1 2016, 05:54) *

Why does it seem so easy to hack in stuff?
You never seem to heard any headlines reading:
"X thrawts hacking attempt, traced hackers location"


Maybe I should be a hacker when I graduate.


Well it's not easy to hack in stuff, it just takes a lot of time to find some loophole.
I'ts not like in movies or anime where two different hackers battle eachother

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post Nov 1 2016, 22:13
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The "preview before print" and "print" options of my Firefox are dead.
Tested after restarting without plugins, and the problem remains.
For the preview, on Google, it has a ridiculous effect of showing a small white page, while on others websites it open a new tab and freeze on loading forever.
I guess I will have to be happy with pictures taken with Alt+"Print Screen" instead of pdf.

edit: fixed with the "delete all lines about printer in prefs.js" trick

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