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post Mar 5 2014, 21:32
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post Mar 6 2014, 11:27
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Picture this: MS read about AMD Mantle and then said "it's a fuck. No one will adopt it." A few weeks later, MS saw Mantle's performance numbers and then shouted "we're fucked!" A few months later, MS announced DirectX 12. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 6 2014, 13:25
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 5 2014, 23:27) *

Picture this: MS read about AMD Mantle and then said "it's a fuck. No one will adopt it." A few weeks later, MS saw Mantle's performance numbers and then shouted "we're fucked!" A few months later, MS announced DirectX 12. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



The performance numbers aren't that great +10%, but what Microsoft was probably worried about was DirectX 12 support not being adopted by AMD/Nvidia in future and as a result the death of one of the main selling points of future windows editions.
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post Mar 6 2014, 22:48
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QUOTE(Kudowafu @ Mar 5 2014, 04:28) *

Caviar Black is the "performance" drive and it has 5 year warranty compared to Caviar Blue having only 2 year warranty.
Some sort of correlation with the lifespan but really depends mostly on luck.


Yeah I am aware that HDD is still like gambling, but my WD Caviar Blue were only used for Storage, my WD Caviar Black I've essentially abused with multiple 8-12 over-writes, formating, installing re-installing OS:es, encrypting the drive, using it as a log storage and the list goes on.

QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 5 2014, 04:55) *

I was expecting the Black to die first with all fast spinning & extra bit of heat whereas Blue was marketed as HDD with "solid performance & reliability". Then again, I'm wrong more than 50% of the time.


Yeah, I was think so too, with it's history behind it, but now I know it's either Black or Red you're suppose to get.

QUOTE(N04h @ Mar 5 2014, 10:23) *

I had a black and it was a noisy bitch


Maybe you accidentally bought a velociraptor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Granted I got a Full-Tower with ruber isolation and sound-proof (nothing special though) so that might be why it's so quiet.

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 5 2014, 12:05) *

WD even said its drives with 1 year warranty had solid performance and reliability. The MTBF probability curves area also skewed to the left (hope I got that right). After a few years the fail rate on their high capacity plater hard drives goes through the roof. The warranty is probably the best indicator but doesn't always mean that much.


That's true the only real assurance you got is that you can replace it in case it gets bad before at least 1-3 years, granted I've always had a good experience in general with WD (which everyone is now these days forced to be, since the standard 3.5mm market is saturating, let's just hope PCI-E SSD becomes cheaper...).


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post Mar 7 2014, 00:18
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QUOTE(GanGun @ Mar 6 2014, 10:48) *

That's true the only real assurance you got is that you can replace it in case it gets bad before at least 1-3 years, granted I've always had a good experience in general with WD (which everyone is now these days forced to be, since the standard 3.5mm market is saturating, let's just hope PCI-E SSD becomes cheaper...).



Seagate used to be the best years ago, but they moved production then suffered firmware then hardware issues since. Some of their highest end drives have a good price performance ratio but I wouldn't touch any of their other drives anymore.

I am not sure if western digital improved much, their high capacity drives still have a high fail rate but they are better than most of their competition because others became worse.

Hitachi somehow became the most reliable, they said they would improve their quality after the deathstar drive incidents and not have some of the most reliable traditional drives on the market.
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post Mar 7 2014, 01:23
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 7 2014, 09:18) *

Seagate used to be the best years ago, but they moved production then suffered firmware then hardware issues since. Some of their highest end drives have a good price performance ratio but I wouldn't touch any of their other drives anymore.

I am not sure if western digital improved much, their high capacity drives still have a high fail rate but they are better than most of their competition because others became worse.

Hitachi somehow became the most reliable, they said they would improve their quality after the deathstar drive incidents and not have some of the most reliable traditional drives on the market.

Is that your personal experience or result of a survey or report? If it's the latter, do you have a link or something? I'm looking into buying a new drive and I need as much info as I can get
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post Mar 7 2014, 02:54
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I've always had the most luck with Hitachi, though I've got a couple of older Seagates spinning in a few machines. From what I've heard from the person I trust with this shit at the IT department at work is that you go with Blacks, not Blues if you do get a Seagate.

I've got to invest in some TB drives for other shit, though. In addition to a SATA expander.

EDIT: For the record, W-D can suck my nuts. I've had nothing but trouble with them. No sense in buying a hard drive if it's only going to spin for two years.

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post Mar 7 2014, 04:39
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 7 2014, 07:23) *

Is that your personal experience or result of a survey or report? If it's the latter, do you have a link or something? I'm looking into buying a new drive and I need as much info as I can get


This, back in January:
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post Mar 7 2014, 05:04
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Why the hell all email clients suck so much?

thunderbird is heavy as elephant shit
claws-mail uses the worse storage type for local emails possible (MH boxes)
evolution do not allow you to redefine the position of your email folders
kmail says that it handles maildir for local storage but it does it in it's own private and non-standard way
balsa is good but it's slowly becoming unmaintained
mutt and/or alpine have the best storage and resource usage but cannot render HTML mail

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post Mar 7 2014, 07:38
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 7 2014, 13:39) *

This, back in January:

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(blue penguin @ Mar 7 2014, 14:04) *

Why the hell all email clients suck so much?

thunderbird is heavy as elephant shit
claws-mail uses the worse storage type for local emails possible (MH boxes)
evolution do not allow you to redefine the position of your email folders
kmail says that it handles maildir for local storage but it does it in it's own private and non-standard way
balsa is good but it's slowly becoming unmaintained
mutt and/or alpine have the best storage and resource usage but cannot render HTML mail

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MS Outlook? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 7 2014, 08:26
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I've had that many WD drives die on me over the years, however more recently I've had a few newer Seagate drives fail. I still have older Seagate drives that are still going 5+ years.

I've had one intel SSD fail out of about six. It was due to a known bug that they supposedly fixed... The problem with Intel's SSDs is that they could be freaking amazing but its not economic to ensure sub 0.5% PA fail rates. I think it was either 220 or 320 series that had the bug with power being turned off unexpectedly causing the SSD to be bricked. Hmmm come to think of it, they can be restored from memory... I wonder what i did with it.
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post Mar 8 2014, 03:24
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I seriously need to get SSD one of these days. I've had the same Win7 for 4 years I think without reformatting and I feel like it's starting to slow down.
Or it's just that everyone else has SSD and when I use their computers I get used to the blazing fast speeds..
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post Mar 8 2014, 03:25
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Lately, my (galaxy s4) smartphone's battery has been running out real easily. The past month or so I've had it plugged into my laptop every and all week day because I test software I develop, so it's charging all the time. Is that the reason? Did it get lazy?
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post Mar 8 2014, 05:33
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 6 2014, 23:18) *

Seagate used to be the best years ago, but they moved production then suffered firmware then hardware issues since. Some of their highest end drives have a good price performance ratio but I wouldn't touch any of their other drives anymore.

I am not sure if western digital improved much, their high capacity drives still have a high fail rate but they are better than most of their competition because others became worse.

Hitachi somehow became the most reliable, they said they would improve their quality after the deathstar drive incidents and not have some of the most reliable traditional drives on the market.


Well I've yet to have either a WD Green hdd or Black fail on me (granted my WD Black has ha some hickups, but that might come from my motherboard S-ATA controller, man I need to wait to 2015 to get money to buy me a new computer...), my Seagate Desktop 4TB drive is already giving me some yellow S.M.A.R.T Flags which might just be false alarms (since the actual value is perfectly normal), still I can't any risks with it.

Granted I wanted a Hitachi (6TB wouldn't hurt to have) but the good ones were REALLY expensive or out-of-date (manufactured/released in 2011) and even then I saw countless of people saying it died this time or that time and maybe even now.

Although it's kinda sad to see HDD slowly dying, even though it is a pain to have (all it takes is a fart or a mean glare at it and it goes haywire) and SSD is sort of suffering from "OH SHIT HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT BEFORE ALL THE CELLS ARE GONE" mentality so you're constantly stressed (even though you should be more stressed about a HDD)... On a more positive note there are now 1TB SSD 2.5mm" drives for around 800$ which are super fast.

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post Mar 8 2014, 05:54
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Was thinking what Windows internet browser to switch from but there aren't too many alternatives nowadays since most of them are Chrome clones. Firefox is somwhat decent.
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QUOTE(Kudowafu @ Mar 7 2014, 20:24) *

I seriously need to get SSD one of these days. I've had the same Win7 for 4 years I think without reformatting and I feel like it's starting to slow down.
Or it's just that everyone else has SSD and when I use their computers I get used to the blazing fast speeds..

NTFS tends to need defragging every now and then. That may help some.
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QUOTE(sgthale @ Mar 8 2014, 14:54) *

Was thinking what Windows internet browser to switch from but there aren't too many alternatives nowadays since most of them are Chrome clones. Firefox is somwhat decent.


Firefox is already more professional and reliable just because you can turn off its auto-updater....

QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 8 2014, 16:18) *

NTFS tends to need defragging every now and then. That may help some.


Only NTFS, or is that the same with FAT, ext*, HFS, etc... ?

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post Mar 8 2014, 08:16
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QUOTE(GanGun @ Mar 7 2014, 17:33) *

SSD is sort of suffering from "OH SHIT HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT BEFORE ALL THE CELLS ARE GONE" mentality so you're constantly stressed (even though you should be more stressed about a HDD)... On a more positive note there are now 1TB SSD 2.5mm" drives for around 800$ which are super fast.


I wouldn't buy a 1 tb SSD. I've never had cell durability reach zero on a SSD, and I've even bought second hand SSDs before. More likely the controller or other components will fail first as long as you buy a model with high quality tier nand. Even if durability does reach zero, you have six months to copy the data off. However like I said, other parts will probably fail/malfunction first. Lower quality SSDs will start having errors all over the place before durability reaches zero, so I don't even consider buying them. Its fun to laugh at the owners of Vertex Agility drives, though OCZ does have models that are excellent, they have some models which are piss poor.
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post Mar 8 2014, 14:57
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 8 2014, 07:16) *

I wouldn't buy a 1 tb SSD. I've never had cell durability reach zero on a SSD, and I've even bought second hand SSDs before. More likely the controller or other components will fail first as long as you buy a model with high quality tier nand. Even if durability does reach zero, you have six months to copy the data off. However like I said, other parts will probably fail/malfunction first. Lower quality SSDs will start having errors all over the place before durability reaches zero, so I don't even consider buying them. Its fun to laugh at the owners of Vertex Agility drives, though OCZ does have models that are excellent, they have some models which are piss poor.


Damn it, I should really stop commenting when I'm really tired, I ment 80$ not 800...
Well it's from Samsung so I don't really think it's that bad, yeah I was thinking about also how SSD are more hard to recover data from if there's any error to it (you might be able to change to firmware or similar stuff if you're lucky, but I've yet to hear anyone be able to).
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Only NTFS, or is that the same with FAT, ext*, HFS, etc... ?

Ext* and HFS tend to be fragmentation resistant. FAT likes to fragment up too, but it's less of an issue for flash storage and it's smaller drives.
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