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I wouldn't touch a drive that big unless it was a WD black or Seagate constellation drive. I don't think you can get a 4TB drive for $60 unless it was one of the older gen Barracudas with a 20-30% fail rate per annum I saw them selling pretty cheap for a while with a 1 year warranty.

From the tests I've seen it was as stable as the WD 4TB Black one (although in my personal experience even more stable since my Black WD has from time to time failed).

where exactly can u get a 4tb HD for 60 bucks? a 3tb here is about 100 and i am in canada...

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LOL 17k ¥.

This post has been edited by Pillowgirl: Jul 24 2013, 16:39

LOL 17k ¥.

Yupp, there I go zip zap zop zobiba!

I meant 160$..

This post has been edited by GanGun : Jul 24 2013, 18:10

I ordered a HTC One 64gb to replace my iphone4s.

OpenOffice, LibreOffice - which could be a better Office? Hmm...

OpenOffice, LibreOffice - which could be a better Office? Hmm..

It's the same stuff, but LibreOffice is better (note the lack of concordance in this phrase).

OpenOffice was the open source office suite developed by Sun, when Oracle bought Sun they decided to screw OpenOffice and rewrite it in Java. A couple of ad hoc maintainers from OpenOffice got pissed off by this and reused the OpenOffice code (to the extent that the distribution license allowed) to create LibreOffice (without and Java memory hogging shit).

Nowadays the only OS distributions that come with OpenOffice are Oracle Linux and Solaris (both owned by Oracle).

It's the same stuff, but LibreOffice is better (note the lack of concordance in this phrase).

OpenOffice was the open source office suite developed by Sun, when Oracle bought Sun they decided to screw OpenOffice and rewrite it in Java. A couple of ad hoc maintainers from OpenOffice got pissed off by this and reused the OpenOffice code (to the extent that the distribution license allowed) to create LibreOffice (without and Java memory hogging shit).

LibreOffice doesn't require Jave RE like OpenOffice?

IIRC the original idea was to kick java out and substitute as much of it as possible with python.

I only use LibreOffice Writer and it does not require JRE, on the Trisquel Linux machine where I use it there's no JRE installed. On the other hand, on a good ol' Red Hat Linux yum told me the following:

CODE

# yum search LibreOffice | egrep '^libreoffice' | grep -v libreoffice-langpack | awk '{ print $1 }' | while read x; do yum deplist $x; done | egrep '^\s*provider:' | sort | uniq | grep java
   provider: java-1.5.0-gcj-devel.i686 1.5.0.0-29.1.el6
   provider: java-1.5.0-gcj.i686 1.5.0.0-29.1.el6
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.56.1.11.8.el6_3
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.57.1.11.9.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.61.1.11.11.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.62.1.11.11.90.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.56.1.11.8.el6_3
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.57.1.11.9.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.61.1.11.11.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.62.1.11.11.90.el6_4
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.19-2.3.9.1.el6_4
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.25-2.3.10.3.el6_4
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.9-2.3.7.1.el6_3
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.9-2.3.8.0.el6_4

Therefore there are parts of LibreOffice that do require java.

EDIT: After some more yum browsing I can say that there are good new and bad news: it's the core system of LibreOffice that uses java. The good side is that the java usage is isolated, the bad side is that only a small couple of LibreOffice pieces work without the core system, therefore ~90% is still java dependent.

This post has been edited by blue penguin: Jul 25 2013, 18:20

IIRC the original idea was to kick java out and substitute as much of it as possible with python.

I only use LibreOffice Writer and it does not require JRE, on the Trisquel Linux machine where I use it there's no JRE installed. On the other hand, on a good ol' Red Hat Linux yum told me the following:

CODE

# yum search LibreOffice | egrep '^libreoffice' | grep -v libreoffice-langpack | awk '{ print $1 }' | while read x; do yum deplist $x; done | egrep '^\s*provider:' | sort | uniq | grep java
   provider: java-1.5.0-gcj-devel.i686 1.5.0.0-29.1.el6
   provider: java-1.5.0-gcj.i686 1.5.0.0-29.1.el6
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.56.1.11.8.el6_3
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.57.1.11.9.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.61.1.11.11.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.62.1.11.11.90.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.56.1.11.8.el6_3
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.57.1.11.9.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.61.1.11.11.el6_4
   provider: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.6.0.0-1.62.1.11.11.90.el6_4
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.19-2.3.9.1.el6_4
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.25-2.3.10.3.el6_4
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.9-2.3.7.1.el6_3
   provider: java-1.7.0-openjdk.i686 1:1.7.0.9-2.3.8.0.el6_4

Therefore there are parts of LibreOffice that do require java.

EDIT: After some more yum browsing I can say that there are good new and bad news: it's the core system of LibreOffice that uses java. The good side is that the java usage is isolated, the bad side is that only a small couple of LibreOffice pieces work without the core system, therefore ~90% is still java dependent.

Not that LibreOffice is anywhere near as good as MS Office these days (all that sucks with Office quite honestly besides Ribbon is that it's a typical NO-CUSTOMIZATION shit product from Microsoft).

Checked the stat.h file in Mac OS X (because Apple does respect your POSIX freedom more than Microsoft)
To see how mkdir and this is what I see..

CODE

/usr/include/sys/stat.h[RO] [142,1] 33%

/*
* XXX So deprecated, it would make your head spin
*
* The old stat structure.  In fact, this is not used by the kernel at all,
* and should not be used by user space, and should be removed from this
* header file entirely (along with the unused cvtstat() prototype in
* vnode_internal.h).
*/

Why EVEN HAVE IT?!

This post has been edited by GanGun : Jul 25 2013, 20:46

I thought why wasn't my Windows update working..

@ blue penguin

LibreOffice it is. Can't be any worse than Wordpad.

Word is still the best WYSIWYG editor right now, there really isn't much to debate.
Still,

Word documents still look hilariously bad when compared to Latex documents

(Libre|Open)Office Calc or whatever it's called now is not that bad, though.

Are you kidding me? The newer MS office software is some of the shittiest stuff I've ever used.

How is it shitty and what would the better alternative be?
And just so we don't enter into that argument, not being able to find stuff because they moved it from where it was in Office 2007- does not make it shitty.
Word 2013 does have a tendency to crash at utterly random times, though.

I dunno, I use Open Office at home simply because I can't afford MS Office products for personal use.

But I'd rather use Office 2010 or 2013 if I had the option. Still waiting on approval from corporate to see if they use the HUP.

I dunno much about MS Office 2013 but I do prefer Office 2010 over 2007 because of little but convenient changes like Print Preview can be be viewed directly in Print and Paste Special is now integrated in the Right-Click context menu.

Besides the horrid interface, it can't even read it's own files right half the time (although the older versions had this same problem). Libre Office has never given me any troubles.

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