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elemental rating will get raised easily,i have reached my elemental cap at level 135 or so.

Also what staff are you using, if i may ask?

elemental rating will get raised easily,i have reached my elemental cap at level 135 or so.

Also what staff are you using, if i may ask?

Currently using this one. It is pretty good, but not the best that I could find. I'd use one that has higher EDB and MDM, with around the same MAB, but this one cost me quite a bit, so if I were to try to find one with higher EDB, MDM, and MAB, it'd probably cost me quite a lot.

I just used full mage equipment for the first time in the arena and I got the Shockblast and Wrath of Thor electric spells. I can see how you can one-hit all of them in each round but fuck, that's a bitch having to cast spells each round and it costs mana. Plus, my staff and cloth proficiencies are next to nothing. I tried a couple of Legendaries in the RoB on normal and died. Lol, OMG.

This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Jan 5 2011, 06:46

I just used full mage equipment for the first time in the arena and I got the Shockblast and Wrath of Thor electric spells. I can see how you can one-hit all of them in each round but fuck, that's a bitch having to cast spells each round and it costs mana. Plus, my staff and cloth proficiencies are next to nothing. I tried the bigger monsters in the RoB on normal and died. Lol, OMG.

Go into an Item World (I know you don't do that, but you should) with a Staff and full cloth armor and just go through the entire Item World. You'll get your staff and cloth (if you wear full evade gear or something like that) up in the process by quite a lot. You'll only have to do this maybe two or three times depending upon how many rounds the Item World is.

This is the best way to raise proficiencies.

One you get Elec Rating and your Proficiencies up, it'll be easier since you can use Thunderstorm; its way cheaper.

If you've got a fancy mouse like I do, you can program the hotkeys into it. All I need is the thumb wheel.

Go into an Item World (I know you don't do that, but you should) with a Staff and full cloth armor and just go through the entire Item World. You'll get your staff and cloth (if you wear full evade gear or something like that) up in the process by quite a lot. You'll only have to do this maybe two or three times depending upon how many rounds the Item World is.

This is the best way to raise proficiencies.

I used Battletoads Flimsy to grind my Staff proff up. I used a high ET staff, put on my Evade gear, set Shield and SV to IA, cast MM to proc CM, whack to get ET, cure as necessary.

This post has been edited by cmal: Jan 5 2011, 06:51

My whole reason for doing the mage thing is to be able to clear the really high arena challenges. This is going to take me forever to get everything up to where I can do that as a mage. I really can't stand Grindfesting and Item Worlding. It makes me want to punch something.

But I'm really tired right now. I'll try it some more tomorrow when I'm less grouchy. I think it's all a matter of me getting used to it. DW is so easy for me except where the higher arena challenges are concerned.

Yeah, usually, it is fairly boring, but that is a great way to get the proficiencies up. You can also do it in the lower level arenas as well if you'd rather do it there, but you won't get the same amount of proficiency bonus as you would in the Item World.

You can get prof faster in Battletoads?

You can get prof faster in Battletoads?

I don't think so, the more spells you cast the faster they will go up. The more times you get hit your armor will go up...

Playing a strong mage on a slow pc is like pulling teeth, long page loads will put you to sleep.

I use to go into the arenas and put the monster to sleep then cast weaken or bewilder on them over and over again to gain some prof points, i'd use up all my smaller mana pots. I never did try going melee with a staff and just pound everything but I was always looking for a staff with +30% melee dmg to do it. I didn't know if that would be faster then using MM on everything.

Its a pain in the ass grinding profs, especially at high levels, but if you have all or most of them capped, it makes being able to switch to practically any fighting style extremely easy (so long as you have the equipment). You just have to put in a little bit of time. Do one prof grinding session a day. Before you know it, they'll be high enough to provide noticeable benefits.

MM could probably kill things faster, but that wasn't the goal. By hitting with a low damage staff, you increase the chance of gaining profs. And since you're spending longer times on the lower rounds with fewer monsters, you're not taking nearly as much damage while maximizing your grinding. Being able to proc ET frequently also means you can go on for as long as your patience allows since you can recover enough MP to maintain IAs and cast cures and regens as necessary.

Get a staff, wear all cloth, enter a Flimsy IW. If it's Cake difficulty, then just spend all your mana on whatever magic prof you're trying to raise (elem, divine, supportive, etc).
Then just watch TV or something while mashing 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,space.
Glance at the HV screen every few minutes to check your MP, recast all spells, restart mashing.

At low levels of profs, that would raise your profs by 5-10 points every 30 mins.
If you're near the cap though, it would be something like 0.30 - 0.50 pts every 30 mins.
(I used to time my prof gains by the shows I watch. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) )

Do this until you have atleast 50-70% profs at your level.
And keep raising INT and WIS like mad.

This post has been edited by Rei-Tenshi: Jan 5 2011, 10:58

Do this until you have atleast 50-70% profs at your level.
And keep raising INT and WIS like mad.

Does INT really have that big of an impact on casting spells and spell damage?

At my level i have 176 int (not including equip and artifact stat bonusses ) and 161 wis. More int and wis also means a higher magic crit and hit %'s.
You have to keep up with in and wis, because monsters will also start getting higher barrier ratings as you level up and you want them killed without spending too many mana and turns.

At my level i have 176 int (not including equip and artifact stat bonusses ) and 161 wis. More int and wis also means a higher magic crit and hit %'s.
You have to keep up with in and wis, because monsters will also start getting higher barrier ratings as you level up and you want them killed without spending too many mana and turns.

Yeah, right now, my WIS is 94 and my INT is 82 or 83. I know my INT is lacking, but I've been building it up over the past few levels....about 5 levels ago, it was only 71 or so.

Also another benefit by having a high wisdom is that mana potions, gems and second wind will restore more mp.

from my point of wiew, i will switch to melle only once finished with gods in RoB
if patches don't change nothing, then i will go mage

maybe i will do some prof when i will have some spare AP, for now i need to cap my deprecating spells

Killing the gods was easier for me using melee than magic when i was somewhere close to lvl 115, because my divine and forbidden proficiencies were fairly low.

Also another benefit by having a high wisdom is that mana potions, gems and second wind will restore more mp.

I know that my INT is low for my level, but what about my WIS? Is that pretty good for my level?

you don't have to raise wis that much compared to int in the beginning.

Because int gives 1/25 point of magic accuracy and widom 1/40th point, i started balancing it out those 2 stats by the cost of exp to get 1 point int or dex.

So mathematically speaking, i get int unless my wis costs less than 62.5% of the exp needed to raise int.

you don't have to raise wis that much compared to int in the beginning.

Because int gives 1/25 point of magic accuracy and widom 1/40th point, i started balancing it out those 2 stats by the cost of exp to get 1 point int or dex.

So mathematically speaking, i get int unless my wis costs less than 62.5% of the exp needed to raise int.

Well, compared to my other stats, WIS is the third highest.

Right now INT Is my lowest...or is it DEX (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

STR: 96
DEX: 83
AGI: 88
END: 97
INT: 84
WIS: 94