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post Aug 20 2011, 22:19
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 15:06) *

I guess you didn't like Shiro enough to make her as close as possible to the source material.

Unfortunately this happened:
QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 19 2011, 12:03) *

I initially planned to make her a Giant and her counterpart Shiro a Humanoid but that was already taken



How about we make a deal? If you can bribe convince the person who took her name into deleting his monster, I promise I will make Shiro a humanoid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Aug 20 2011, 22:28
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 22:16) *

Awww come on. I don't wanna make my Miko a stupid girly with 1 WIS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Actually no Class is right for her ;_;
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post Aug 20 2011, 22:32
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*play Mission: Impossible theme*

Sigh, I'll just imagine myself as thinking that Wretched Egg is a guy (just before the reveal that it was her).
Just make Wretched Egg into the undisputed best Giant and I'll get off your case.
And I'll just silently hate on that guy who made Shiro and then left her as a (probably) PL 0 Dragonkin Monster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Aug 20 2011, 22:34
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The sheer number of giants and dragonkin made me recently switch from elec + fire to wind + elec

Happens to work quite well with Neptunia too (whom I just started to encounter), since it's absurdly strong against elec, but dies quite easily to wind damage.


Anything that doesn't get killed by wind damage is usually quite weak to some other element (mostly undeads and robots)


Ichy, what Miko are you talking about? Some obscure eroge character again?
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post Aug 20 2011, 22:39
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well your elec fries the robots. it's the undeads that ruin everything, really =\
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post Aug 20 2011, 22:44
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But undeads are nowhere near as popular as the other types. I guess they're harder to level up due to less available resistances, and so most of them are stuck in the mid levels.
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post Aug 20 2011, 22:48
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well right now we have kennel/rei ayanami/Satsuki Yumizuka/Evil/sankarea

the available bestiary to us has a pretty low count because only that many is really "close to our level" the rest of the monsters have an abysmally low chance of even getting a chance at us

pretty high chance to run into one of those above in a round. heck i see eila/lise every 2 rounds at *least* so come 9 monster round i'm almost guaranteed to see one of the above
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post Aug 20 2011, 22:50
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I must be the only one who loves Undeads. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
Negligible damage compared to Giants/freakish Humanoids, easy to nerf, easier to steamroll with Meteor/Flames of Loki and resistant to magic/Magic Missile which means more mana leech since they don't die as easily as Elementals.
What's not to like? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Aug 20 2011, 22:53
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Aug 20 2011, 14:50) *

I must be the only one who loves Undeads. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
Negligible damage compared to Giants/freakish Humanoids, easy to nerf, easier to steamroll with Meteor/Flames of Loki and resistant to magic/Magic Missile which means more mana leech since they don't die as easily as Elementals.
What's not to like? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)


that part, since it contributes to you finishing in 40 mins rather than 10 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

leech (i assume ET since wacky wacky with illithid isnt' there yet) is reliable but omg that takes forever'

honestly if undeads weren't around i wouldn't be going elec/fire since fire isn't really a useful element right now other than for undead killing and elec proc-ing
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:03
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 15:32) *

Just make Wretched Egg into the undisputed best Giant and I'll get off your case.

She's currently the highest PL Giant, don't know if that would make her the best. I'm almost done with her though so I'm not sure how long she can stay at the number one spot.

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And I'll just silently hate on that guy who made Shiro and then left her as a (probably) PL 0 Dragonkin Monster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

A Dragonkin? Well he's certainly got me beat.

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post Aug 20 2011, 23:05
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Maybe because I only do a few arenas, but I don't see nearly as many undead as you're describing.

Yes, I do see the ones you mention, but out of those 5, only satsuki sometimes doesn't die to a follow-up inferno. The rest are weak enough that if they get proc'd with Turbulent air, a follow-up thunderstorm kills them just the same.

Then again I only play my top two arenas on hard lol. You're probably playing on nightmare daily, but I just don't have the time to do so many arenas on higher difficulties everyday.


I only ET elementals and celestials, because they both give a lot of mana per turn and deal very little damage.
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:09
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Aug 20 2011, 22:34) *

Ichy, what Miko are you talking about? Some obscure eroge character again?

Yes.
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:15
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yeah on normal/hard the 75% res kinda helps. *might* stop the nuke from melting the whole group and leaving 1 or 2 (50/50 chance whether a guy dies or not, also depending on whether they were primary target)

yeah i usually nightmare my top few arenas if i have great status and normal the rest. might start trying hell now i think

ET is nice but higher diffuclty = higher damage and i keep 5 buffs on during nightmare so each time i do the ET i'm ticking away a *lot* of turns on my buffs
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:19
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 20 2011, 14:09) *

Yes.


Considering the timing, I thought you were going to make the new touhou stage 6 boss.

Surprisingly, that one's still available, considering how fast the rest of the touhous were taken when the monster lab was released (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:22
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Aug 20 2011, 23:19) *

Considering the timing, I thought you were going to make the new touhou stage 6 boss.

Surprisingly, that one's still available, considering how fast the rest of the touhous were taken when the monster lab was released (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If it was her I would not have such a hard time choosing a Monster Class.

Yeah all Touhous taken and now level 0s... I would love to make a high powered super Flandre (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:26
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Aug 20 2011, 14:15) *

yeah on normal/hard the 75% res kinda helps. *might* stop the nuke from melting the whole group and leaving 1 or 2 (50/50 chance whether a guy dies or not, also depending on whether they were primary target)

yeah i usually nightmare my top few arenas if i have great status and normal the rest. might start trying hell now i think

ET is nice but higher diffuclty = higher damage and i keep 5 buffs on during nightmare so each time i do the ET i'm ticking away a *lot* of turns on my buffs



Can you one-shot on nightmare? Or at least one-shot more than half the enemies every round? The only thing stopping me from playing on higher difficulties is time constraints. If I have to spend more time killing everything, then I might as well play more arenas on normal difficulty (which I don't). I've been using 6-8 lesser/average mana potions for To Kill a God and Eve of Death on hard. I don't actually ET all that much, just whenever an elemental or celestial is conveniently the last monster left alive with CM proc'd (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:30
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 20 2011, 14:22) *

If it was her I would not have such a hard time choosing a Monster Class.

Yeah all Touhous taken and now level 0s... I would love to make a high powered super Flandre (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



Do what Sayo did. Create a monster based on the touhou's title. Cept he did it with his gloomy ghost girl.

Anyone who recognizes touhou would know what your monster is if they encountered a Sister of the Devil or Perfect and Elegant Maid, etc. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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definite no. i got garbage gear. usually takes me a chain light + meteor to clear most of them. then third spell to finish it up. sometimes there's a douche that i missed on then it takes me 4-6 turns instead of the 3 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:38
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I'll stick to my 80% one-shots on hard then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I just use elementalist gear btw (plus a pretty decent staff from Conquest). I take it you're using EDB phase? I'm too finicky to pick a single element, though I might start looking to getting some freyr gear now that I'm mostly sticking to opening with wind spells.
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post Aug 20 2011, 23:42
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exp gain/time is higher though despite the lack of 1 shot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

i'm using EDB phase but most of it is getting out leveled
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