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Aug 20 2011, 07:49
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Slobber
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ATA TA TA TA TATA TA?
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Aug 20 2011, 07:58
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Ichy
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Aug 20 2011, 07:49)  ATA TA TA TA TATA TA?
QUOTE cut his fucking head off! Hokuto Shinken does not cut a head off. It blows heads up!
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Aug 20 2011, 08:14
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 20 2011, 01:03)  I felt making her a Humanoid wouldn't have done her justice.
This was what I hated about the Giants. Almost all of the top Giants aren't really Giants, but random characters made that way to gain easy extra killing power. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Aug 20 2011, 17:08
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 01:14)  This was what I hated about the Giants. Almost all of the top Giants aren't really Giants, but random characters made that way to gain easy extra killing power. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I can't speak for others but battle statistics was the last thing on my mind when I created her.
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Aug 20 2011, 18:18
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 20 2011, 23:08)  I can't speak for others but battle statistics was the last thing on my mind when I created her.
QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 20 2011, 01:03)  The only reason I made a Giant is to annoy and hamper some classes.
You made her a Giant because its battle statistics (high END/Ratings/Resists) were the most annoying for the most number of people. C'mon, just admit it already. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Aug 20 2011, 18:58
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 11:18)  You made her a Giant because its battle statistics (high END/Ratings/Resists) were the most annoying for the most number of people. C'mon, just admit it already. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Being annoying doesn't equate to battle statistics. It just so happens this is true in this case. You also missed the gist of my post: QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 19 2011, 12:03)  It may seem illogical to you that I create such an annoying monster for myself but it is due to this that I can gauge her growth.
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Aug 20 2011, 19:17
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Tenboro

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For what it's worth, the distribution of the different monster classes doesn't change much by restricting them to higher PLs.
Giants do however have the largest average win and kill counts. Which should be balanced out at some point.
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Aug 20 2011, 20:25
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 20 2011, 12:17)  Giants do however have the largest average win and kill counts. Which should be balanced out at some point. I would hope so. I have a giant that I've put very little effort into (PL107,) and it has 5 times as many kills as my elemental (PL409.)
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Aug 20 2011, 20:36
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 21 2011, 00:58)  Being annoying doesn't equate to battle statistics. It just so happens this is true in this case.
So which is it? Annoying because: a.) Easy to get wins/kills with little effort b.) Hard to kill for both melee and magic c.) Really being a Humanoid character but a Giant in HV for easy modo purposes. Did I miss anything?
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Aug 20 2011, 20:51
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 20 2011, 12:17)  Which should be balanced out at some point.
Hope this comes soon so I can reiterate this again: QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 18 2011, 14:45)  It would at least stop all the people whining about one specific class and complaining about how stupidly OP they are.
QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 13:36)  Did I miss anything?
d) Hard to kill for both melee and magic, doesn't necessarily have to win any battles/kills
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Aug 20 2011, 21:12
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 21 2011, 02:51)  Hope this comes soon so I can reiterate this again: d) Hard to kill for both melee and magic, doesn't necessarily have to win any battles/kills
Well, that's wrong because they're both hard to kill and easy to get kills with, as stated by Tenboro. And everybody knew a,b,c from the first few weeks. I'm not sure what new stuff you were trying to "test" and find out. QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 19 2011, 03:45)  It would be nice if this happens to be true. It would at least stop all the people whining about one specific class and complaining about how stupidly OP they are.
And I hope it also finally stops all the people justifying their OP Giant characters with flimsy excuses. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Aug 20 2011, 21:17
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 14:12)  Well, that's wrong because they're both hard to kill and easy to get kills with, as stated by Tenboro.
QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 20 2011, 11:58)  It just so happens this is true in this case.
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Aug 20 2011, 21:18
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 21 2011, 03:12)  I'm not sure what new stuff you were trying to "test" and find out.
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Aug 20 2011, 21:23
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 20 2011, 14:12)  I'm not sure what new stuff you were trying to "test" and find out.
QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 19 2011, 12:03)  If I roflstomp my monsters whenever I increase one of their attributes I wouldn't know what have changed or how I can go about to increasing its efficiency.
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Aug 20 2011, 22:06
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 20 2011, 01:03)  If I roflstomp my monsters whenever I increase one of their attributes I wouldn't know what have changed or how I can go about to increasing its efficiency.
Which could have been done with any of the other high resist classes, and also by playing on IWBTH. Unless you're saying you can one-shot all the other monsters types on IWBTH except for Giants. And none of that still justifies making somebody like this: (IMG:[ th09.deviantart.net] http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/150/f/2011/220/d/6/wretched_egg_by_makarii-d45xnos.png) into a Giant. I guess you didn't like Shiro enough to make her as close as possible to the source material.
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Aug 20 2011, 22:09
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Ichy
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I should make my Miko a giant too. She is ~1,50 meters tall! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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