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post Aug 11 2011, 20:42
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 11 2011, 12:23) *

Let Hito change the staff to destruction then, otherwise it will really be hilarious (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I doubt this is possible. Being able to change equipment suffixes is too broken.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 11 2011, 12:56) *

You'll be able to see what you'll end up with before committing to anything, anyway. You won't ever lose stats, but it might stop you from upgrading them.

How far can we upgrade equipment? That is, are we able to upgrade current max gear into "pre-nerf" levels?
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post Aug 11 2011, 20:48
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 11 2011, 13:33) *

Well, for obvious reasons (such as renaming gear to something misleading), reforged equipment won't be tradeable.

So much for upgrading to sell things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Also, please never ever make the upgrade materials tradeable either. People would just buy their materials instead of earning them through monsters.


Well, I should be able to add a crit bonus to my staff at least.

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post Aug 11 2011, 20:53
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I would be interested if there will be a maximal number of possible upgrades.
If I can upgrade any shitdrop until it is maxed out good drops would not be special any more.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 11 2011, 20:33) *

Well, for obvious reasons (such as renaming gear to something misleading), reforged equipment won't be tradeable.

But you could still rename your Owl phase into Superior Robe of Mjolnir and sell it to the Bazaar for trolling purposes? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 11 2011, 21:01
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Most likely not Bazaarable, either. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 11 2011, 21:02
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I don't think preventing monster trainers from selling their loot is desirable by either party. But I do expect high-grade mats to reach silly prices soon enough.

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But you could still rename your Owl phase into Superior Robe of Mjolnir and sell it to the Bazaar for trolling purposes? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Can't sell them either. The only way to get rid of a reforged piece of equipment will be to "salvage" it.
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post Aug 11 2011, 21:13
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 11 2011, 21:02) *

I don't think preventing monster trainers from selling their loot is desirable by either party. But I do expect high-grade mats to reach silly prices soon enough.

Hey Hito lets do some price gouging? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

By salvaging you mean we can get all used material back? So I can use it on a solala item and then salvage it if I found one with better base stats?
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post Aug 11 2011, 21:22
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 11 2011, 21:13) *
By salvaging you mean we can get all used material back? So I can use it on a solala item and then salvage it if I found one with better base stats?


You'll get some of it back. I haven't really decided how much. The bindings and special items will be lost at any rate.
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post Aug 11 2011, 21:26
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I hope "salvage" means the equip returns to it's natural state as well, and not completely destroying it for materials (including being able to be traded/sold to bazaar.)

Although, if the latter were the case, that would sure be the quick and easy way to max out gear for people that get tons of rare equipment...

QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 11 2011, 14:13) *

Hey Hito lets do some price gouging? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Price fixing doesn't usually take place in public. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Aug 11 2011, 21:30
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Salvaging will destroy the equipment piece. It's one of the trade-offs (well, the trade-off) for the higher drop rate for rare equipment.
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post Aug 11 2011, 21:34
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Will we be able to salvage all equipment in general or just the ones that were upgraded?
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post Aug 11 2011, 21:38
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 11 2011, 21:34) *
Will we be able to salvage all equipment in general or just the ones that were upgraded?


Only upgraded equipment. It won't be an easy way to generate mats.
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post Aug 11 2011, 22:02
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Crystallized Phazons sell for 1k compared to the 10k for the shade/kelvar/power armor mats. Not that I'd sell it though.
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post Aug 12 2011, 00:26
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This is making me very excited XD. I was completely wrong as to my speculation for what this would be for ^^
Will we be able to overwrite existing suffixes? Any definites on Chaos Tokens?

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post Aug 12 2011, 06:52
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 12 2011, 00:26) *

This is making me very excited XD. I was completely wrong as to my speculation for what this would be for ^^
Will we be able to overwrite existing suffixes? Any definites on Chaos Tokens?

I'm a Fairy from the Future!

Let's say you have a Superior Phase Robe of Surtr.
To upgrade its EDB you need a Phazon and a Binding of Surtr
To upgrade its INT you need a Phazon and a Binding of the Fox
and so on.

Chaos Tokens will be for Monster skills and [CLASSIFIED INFORMATION]
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post Aug 12 2011, 08:24
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That better be one hell of an awesome upgrade, such as +5% MDB or something. What about Gossamer?
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post Aug 12 2011, 08:28
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You'll be lucky if it does +0.01 base stat per upgrade.
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 12 2011, 08:24) *

That better be one hell of an awesome upgrade, such as +5% MDB or something. What about Gossamer?

So everyone will have perfect gear in a few weeks and then quit because there is nothing left to do?
It will very hard to increase one stat and will probably become very costly the closer you are to maxstats.


Gossamer will probably use low/mid/high grade Cloth depending on how close you are to maxstats.
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You could seriously get enough Phazons and Bindings to max every single stat where each upgrade gives you 5% of the remaining distance to max (rounding up to the nearest 0.01 point) in a few weeks? You didn't seriously think I meant a flat bonus, right?XD
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post Aug 12 2011, 11:53
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 12 2011, 06:52) *
Let's say you have a Superior Phase Robe of Surtr.
To upgrade its EDB you need a Phazon and a Binding of Surtr
To upgrade its INT you need a Phazon and a Binding of the Fox


The original plan was indeed to require one "rare" component per stat-up for those kinds of equips, but since that would discourage upgrading anything but the most important stats, it will probably require a few of them for the initial reforge instead.
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post Aug 12 2011, 11:57
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 12 2011, 04:53) *

The original plan was indeed to require one "rare" component per stat-up for those kinds of equips, but since that would discourage upgrading anything but the most important stats, it will probably require a few of them for the initial reforge instead.


Any plans on making these items trade-able? Otherwise I'm stuck with a Repurposed Actuator I can't in any way use (since you can't sell reforged items).
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