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post Aug 11 2011, 06:54
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By your description, I thought you meant people were buying it just to have something super rare/unique. I guess I forgot quality affects XP as well ^^

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post Aug 11 2011, 06:57
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Aug 10 2011, 19:20) *

You're going to need a lot of low level monsters since high grade doesn't even start dropping until your monster is PL250.


So, should I start powering up a single monster in your opinion? It's incredibly expensive, it seems....
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post Aug 11 2011, 07:00
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 11 2011, 06:57) *

So, should I start powering up a single monster in your opinion? It's incredibly expensive, it seems....

If you want something good out of it be ready to spend a lot.
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post Aug 11 2011, 07:53
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 10 2011, 23:54) *
I thought you meant people were buying it just to have something super rare/unique.

There are a few people that would buy it solely for this reason as well.

QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 10 2011, 23:57) *

So, should I start powering up a single monster in your opinion? It's incredibly expensive, it seems....

Tenboro did say you will want your monsters to be as high as possible. Given Tenboro's track record, low-grade material will be next to useless, so creating a ton of low level monsters is probably not a good idea.

It could be useful for getting the rare materials though. They seem to be "special" items in the same way that flower pots/gum/soul stones/elixirs are in that they aren't influenced by your quality bonus, i.e. monster PL in this case.
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:41
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Will Tenboro release 'drop' rates for the different kinds of materials? If the number is low and static like you suggest, it may be worth looking for fast killrate builds at any level (My sprite had 100 battles won stagnated @ lv 30-40, and slowed down a whole lot when she reached 50. Maybe it's just pure luck, but...) Also, you forgot bindings. I'm getting a TON of those. Sadly, you're probably right that all my low grades will be worthless come patch. Youmu, to the level grinder!

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post Aug 11 2011, 09:11
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So far, we only know about how materials with a quality are generated.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 9 2011, 15:53) *
The loot quality check is very simple. It just adds the monster's PL to a random roll between 1 and 1000.

>= 1250 is high.
>= 750 is medium.

You get low and medium quality at any level below PL 749, medium quality odds increase steadily until you stop dropping low quality at PL 749, and from PL 250 up, high quality odds start increasing as well until they reach a 100% chance at PL 1249.

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post Aug 11 2011, 11:11
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Thanks Mika (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Any information on the probability of your monster spawning on a particular round? This might be needed because it seems you hit a point of diminishing returns pretty quickly.
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:23
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:11) *
Thanks Mika (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Any information on the probability of your monster spawning on a particular round? This might be needed because it seems you hit a point of diminishing returns pretty quickly.

No way to tell, sadly. You'll encounter more competition as more players join the game, level up and level their own monsters with the crystals they earn/buy, so you should aim for a point where your monsters start getting a decent number of wins/day. 50 does it for me at the moment, but it was 30 not so long ago. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You'll have to keep up with the competition to make sure your own monsters get in a battle fairly frequently, unless Tenboro put some cap, limitation or hidden loophole to make sure everyone doesn't have to level their monsters to PL 300 to at least get a chance for 1 win a day at some point.

On a sidenote, I encounter my shitty elemental fairly frequently at level 243. Like, 1 in 5 rounds or so. (PL 251, and it's my best monster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

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post Aug 11 2011, 11:38
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Aug 11 2011, 07:53) *
low-grade material will be next to useless


Well, they are common so you can't expect them to fetch high prices, but they certainly won't be useless.
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:10
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 11 2011, 13:38) *

Well, they are common so you can't expect them to fetch high prices, but they certainly won't be useless.

Only if we'll have a possibility to combine them like this:

10 Low -> 1 Mid
10 Mid -> 1 High

Or maybe with more high amounts, it's up to you)

Otherwise nobody will spend a lot more rare bindings and other stuff like kevlar on this cheap pieces of cloth, wood and metal... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Aug 11 2011, 12:11
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Considering pretty nice equips go for way under what highQ cloth sells for, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing WTF will make actually using HQ cloth worthwhile.
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:15
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 11 2011, 05:10) *

rare bindings

Some bindings are rare?
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:21
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 11 2011, 12:15) *
Some bindings are rare?

Pretty sure Evil Scorpio meant those 5 rare materials that sell for 10k base to the Bazaar. (Phase, Shield, Power, Shade and Kevlar upgrades)
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:26
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QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ Aug 11 2011, 05:21) *

Pretty sure Evil Scorpio meant those 5 rare materials that sell for 10k base to the Bazaar. (Phase, Shield, Power, Shade and Kevlar upgrades)


Any idea what they're called? I've got a Repurposed Actuator. I've seen some people with Shielding Rune and Kevlar Piece.

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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 11 2011, 12:26) *

Any idea what they're called? I've got a Repurposed Actuator. I've seen some people with Shielding Rune.

Crystallized Phazon, Shielding Rune, Repurposed Actuator, Kevlar Piece and Shade Fragment.

If the list from ohmightycat's thread is exhaustive, the gift list here should be as well.
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post Aug 11 2011, 17:04
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 11 2011, 12:10) *
Only if we'll have a possibility to combine them like this:


No, that's not the only way. And no, you won't be able to combine them.
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post Aug 11 2011, 17:05
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55 rounds into Heroic End of Days.

Easy, but I already regret starting it, this is going to take more time than I want to spend ;_;
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post Aug 11 2011, 17:10
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QUOTE(marcho @ Aug 11 2011, 23:05) *

55 rounds into Heroic End of Days.

Easy, but I already regret starting it, this is going to take more time than I want to spend ;_;


I am sure you can succeed, given enough time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 11 2011, 17:13
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 11 2011, 17:04) *

No, that's not the only way. And no, you won't be able to combine them.

Can you give some hints on how this feature will work? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 11 2011, 17:43
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 11 2011, 10:10) *

I am sure you can succeed, given enough time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Oh definitely, it's super easy.

66/100, I don't have to use potions as long as I ET and soul, but seriously, fuck this shit >_>
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