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Aug 10 2011, 14:11
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(marcho @ Aug 10 2011, 14:00)  Tenb did say he was going to look at the drop rate for high grade equips so you may start seeing more crappy exquisites. Crappy legendaries should be hard as I think that means a max or near max roll on everything, so crappy legendaries should only be a bad item type roll, not awkward stat distribution. if($quality == 'Legendary') $suffix = 'Owl';
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Aug 10 2011, 14:14
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varst
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QUOTE(marcho @ Aug 10 2011, 20:00)  Tenb did say he was going to look at the drop rate for high grade equips so you may start seeing more crappy exquisites. Crappy legendaries should be hard as I think that means a max or near max roll on everything, so crappy legendaries should only be a bad item type roll, not awkward stat distribution.
If I am not mistaken, Tenb mentioned that the problem's not on drop rate...ah yes QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 5 2011, 18:56)  As for why the top-level mobs don't have a larger chance of dropping good gear, it's because certain values in the quality formula end up capping, especially on higher difficulties. That's also fixed in the next patch.
I guess it's something like 'Yeah I know, you guys want some magnificent equipments? Now beat FSM at IWBTH!'
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Aug 10 2011, 14:15
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marcho
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 10 2011, 07:11)  if($quality == 'Legendary') $suffix = 'Owl';
Ah yes, there is that as well. I'd forgotten about trash suffixes. Silly mental block. This post has been edited by marcho: Aug 10 2011, 14:18
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Aug 10 2011, 14:17
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Ichy
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 10 2011, 14:11)  if($quality == 'Legendary') $suffix = 'Owl';
Someone might break his keyboard. Legendary Owl Phase... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Aug 10 2011, 14:23
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varst
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 10 2011, 20:11)  if($quality == 'Legendary') $suffix = 'Owl';
Noticing those ex-shit in the equipment thread, I don't think there will be useful legendary. Getting some exquisite phase/katalox/shade should be good enough. I'm 100% sure that these things will have a chance after the next patch This post has been edited by varst: Aug 10 2011, 14:23
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Aug 10 2011, 14:25
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Ichy
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 10 2011, 14:23)  Noticing those ex-shit in the equipment thread, I don't think there will be useful legendary. Getting some exquisite phase/katalox/shade should be good enough. I'm 100% sure that these things will have a chance after the next patch
I already have a Exquishit Phase... This post has been edited by Ichy: Aug 10 2011, 14:34
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Aug 10 2011, 15:03
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varst
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 10 2011, 20:25)  I already have a Exquishit Phase... Sor, I forgot your exqushit... What I mean is, they're so rare that you cannot expect them to be valid drops.
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Aug 10 2011, 15:19
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 10 2011, 16:17)  Someone might break his keyboard. Legendary Owl Phase... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) Still might be better than usual. Plus it's good for IW. This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Aug 10 2011, 15:20
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Aug 10 2011, 16:18
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Vasistas
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 10 2011, 15:19)  Still might be better than usual. Plus it's good for IW.
I don't do IW anymore. I do Grindfest on IWBTH adn get enough credits/artifacts back to afford the Energy Drinks plus you get more Exp on Grindfest. Hito said Grindfest is now like doing IW on a pre-patch legendary. I don't really know about that, but you surely get more Exp from Grindfest than from an Lvl 300+ Exquisite shortsword.
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Aug 10 2011, 18:07
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Ichy
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INT and WIS done. Now I only need about 100000 res Crystals to bring her to PL 666 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Aug 10 2011, 18:48
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Aug 10 2011, 01:20)  Inane rambling Argument over. QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 10 2011, 07:11)  if($quality == 'Legendary') $suffix = 'Owl';
I wouldn't turn my nose up at it. People would throw millions of credits at it simply because it's a legendary. In fact, if I got one, I would want it to be owl or cloth simply so I wouldn't be torn whether to sell it or not. QUOTE(Vasistas @ Aug 10 2011, 09:18)  Hito said Grindfest is now like doing IW on a pre-patch legendary. I don't really know about that, but you surely get more Exp from Grindfest than from an Lvl 300+ Exquisite shortsword. Play on BT to over round 200, then decide again.
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Aug 10 2011, 19:06
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20200
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Aug 10 2011, 09:48)  QUOTE(Boggyb @ Aug 9 2011, 23:20)  Inane Rambling
Argument over. QUOTE(Boggyb @ Aug 9 2011, 16:08)  Once again, not actually responding to my point. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Boggyb @ Aug 9 2011, 18:51)  I feel like I'm repeating myself here...
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Aug 10 2011, 20:40
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Black Dynamite
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there are 6 energy drinks in the shop if anybody wants them
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Aug 10 2011, 23:29
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DarkDespair5
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A Legendary Cotton Cap of Protection. People really pay millions for a title? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by DarkDespair5: Aug 10 2011, 23:29
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Aug 10 2011, 23:49
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dkplee
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Oh god
I've kept a very good record of staying away from the Monster Lab. For the longest time, I had only 6 monsters sitting at level 20-22. Then I found out clicking the upgrade buttons is JUST SO EASY.
I now have 9 monsters all ranging from 50-70.
I think this was partly fueled by my boredom with my daily arena running. I'm also considering buying crystals myself, when I've always been a seller. WHAT DO I DO
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Aug 11 2011, 00:17
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Honeycat
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Uh-oh.
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Aug 11 2011, 00:18
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DarkDespair5
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The benefit of level seems to be pretty low at least in my experience. I get a lot of mid grades and a few rare items with my shitty monsters. Also, high level players have the benefit of a lot of item slots and Spark of Life, so they might be harder to kill...
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Aug 11 2011, 00:34
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dkplee
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So what stops me from creating an army of low to mid level monsters?
I've just been pumping every stat including resistances to get a high enough level on my monsters so most players can start encounter them. I figure even if they aren't effective in combat, with higher rate of encounters, there's a much higher chance for winning some battles. They don't even need to kill anything, right?
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Aug 11 2011, 01:21
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DarkDespair5
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Nothing, other than not getting 'High-Grade' materials. They need to win a battle though, which is very hard to do vs high level players.
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Aug 11 2011, 02:20
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 10 2011, 16:29)  A Legendary Cotton Cap of Protection. People really pay millions for a title? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) My staff gives approximately double the EXP of grindfest, so yes. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 10 2011, 18:21)  Nothing, other than not getting 'High-Grade' materials. They need to win a battle though, which is very hard to do vs high level players.
You can probably get a good idea of how their usefulness will be by looking at their bazaar prices. i.e. 100 low-grade = 10 mid-grade = 1 high-grade. You're going to need a lot of low level monsters since high grade doesn't even start dropping until your monster is PL250. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Aug 11 2011, 02:21
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