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post Nov 11 2010, 23:15
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^ This. Also, I wouldn't buy anything that required levelling up in order to be an improvement over what I already had. Far too much effort.
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post Nov 12 2010, 03:32
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Nov 11 2010, 13:15) *

^ This. Also, I wouldn't buy anything that required levelling up in order to be an improvement over what I already had. Far too much effort.


Depending on the the equip type, I would. Mostly due to the difficulty of actually finding upgrades for my equipment at this point.
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post Nov 13 2010, 00:12
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I could go zip through Blue Skies, but I don't feel like it. It really isn't worth it.
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post Nov 13 2010, 00:47
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It might be worth doing once, if only for the initial clear bonus. It's not like it takes that long on Normal.


I'm contemplating whether I want to spend two days doing The Twilight on Battletoads. I only used 3 Spirit Elixirs on EoD, so I know I could finish it.
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post Nov 13 2010, 00:59
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Nov 12 2010, 22:47) *

It might be worth doing once, if only for the initial clear bonus. It's not like it takes that long on Normal.
I'm contemplating whether I want to spend two days doing The Twilight on Battletoads. I only used 3 Spirit Elixirs on EoD, so I know I could finish it.


were the spirit elixirs used for spark of life or your spirit attacks?
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post Nov 13 2010, 02:33
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People actually use spirit attack?
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post Nov 13 2010, 02:44
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Nov 12 2010, 18:33) *

People actually use spirit attack?

OKay this is just me typing out loud..
But isn't the Mini Spirit Attack now more useful than ever? Scroll of Gods + Mini Spirit Attack Strategy should make you kill gods quicker. Of course I'm referring to my level range not you Godslayers.
That said I see no point in fighting RL, IPU or FSM anymore. The trophies gave me more shit, and ther 1k reward isn't worth the elixirs/scrolls at my level.
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post Nov 13 2010, 02:53
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Nov 13 2010, 00:44) *

OKay this is just me typing out loud..
But isn't the Mini Spirit Attack now more useful than ever? Scroll of Gods + Mini Spirit Attack Strategy should make you kill gods quicker. Of course I'm referring to my level range not you Godslayers.
That said I see no point in fighting RL, IPU or FSM anymore. The trophies gave me more shit, and ther 1k reward isn't worth the elixirs/scrolls at my level.
Keep the tokens, and level up until you get l150, there you can just silence them, and use the mini-spirit attack without worrying about scrolls.

Edit:IMO using scrolls/infusions in the current rules is for pussies, and I don't acknowledge any feat done using them.

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post Nov 13 2010, 03:00
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Nov 12 2010, 18:53) *

Keep the tokens, and level up until you get l150, there you can just silence them, and use the mini-spirit attack without worrying about scrolls.

Interesting. I use them on Yuki usually.

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QUOTE(cmdct @ Nov 12 2010, 18:53) *

Edit:IMO using scrolls/infusions in the current rules is for pussies, and I don't acknowledge any feat done using them.

I did it before the patch. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
But I certainly see what you mean. Now you can beat all 3 for quick bucks as soon as you hit 100.
And now Mini Spirit Attack strategy is also available before 150. It should actually help get it done faster, which may save you 1 Scrolls of Gods.

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post Nov 13 2010, 03:30
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Nov 13 2010, 00:33) *

People actually use spirit attack?


Humm wasn't it some of your very old posts where you were trying to one shot kill stuff?
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post Nov 13 2010, 03:49
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I don't think I've used spirit attack since about level 150. Frankly, I would be surprised if it was even as strong as soul burst.
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post Nov 13 2010, 04:50
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Nov 13 2010, 07:53) *

Edit:IMO using scrolls/infusions in the current rules is for pussies, and I don't acknowledge any feat done using them.


Even though I use the infusions + Sword Chucks trick against FSM myself, I have to agree with this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) I felt so sorry for the poor thing (FSM) while I fought him and it didn't satisfied me at all. I was planning to wait for my axe to have 4 turn bleed and more AP point to spent, but since my plan to use infusion + Chucks seem like it's going to work really well... the prize money was just to damn tempting to ignored. Maybe around LV 12X I will try him again, old school style, I should have enough AP by that time.

Though infinite scrolls seem so damn cheap, it's the infusion that change the game completely since it enable you to melee the gods. The infinite scrolls thing definitely should be remove since it make you invincible. I'm not quite sure what should be change about the infusion, though.

QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Nov 13 2010, 08:00) *

And now Mini Spirit Attack strategy is also available before 150. It should actually help get it done faster, which may save you 1 Scrolls of Gods.


I didn't find the Mini Spirit Attack strategy to be an actual, effective, "strategy"... well, for me at least...

927 4 Bleeding Wound hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 315 damage.
927 1 You unleash Gigas Breaker on Invisible Pink Unicorn for 159 soul damage.
926 3 Invisible Pink Unicorn gains the effect Penetrated Armor.

Maybe I was doing something wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

To me, it's more like an obvious thing to do rather than a "strategy", it just like using some leftover thing (SP point in this case, since you don't need it if you use Silence) to do something. It's better than doing nothing at all, but it's not really help that much.
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post Nov 13 2010, 04:54
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Like I said it should at least save you 1 Scroll of Gods.
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post Nov 13 2010, 04:57
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QUOTE(buktore @ Nov 13 2010, 02:50) *

927 4 Bleeding Wound hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 315 damage.
927 1 You unleash Gigas Breaker on Invisible Pink Unicorn for 159 soul damage.
926 3 Invisible Pink Unicorn gains the effect Penetrated Armor.

Maybe I was doing something wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

To me, it's more like an obvious thing to do rather than a "strategy", it just like using some leftover thing (SP point in this case, since you don't need it if you use Silence) to do something. It's better than doing nothing at all, but it's not really help that much.
That was a low hit, and OC also affects, duh. Anyway IIRC Ichy beat some gods mostly by mini-spirit attacks, so they do something.
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post Nov 13 2010, 05:05
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Using your Spirit attack with only 1 SP does very little damage. Let it charge up a little more and you'll see a big difference.
QUOTE(cmdct @ Nov 13 2010, 00:53) *

Keep the tokens, and level up until you get l150, there you can just silence them, and use the mini-spirit attack without worrying about scrolls.

This level is approximate, btw. You get Silence at level 110, but whether or not you can use it depends a lot on how good your evade and/or mitigation is.
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post Nov 13 2010, 05:36
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This is on Battletoads. Channeled Soul Burst vs. 280% OC, 1395 SP Spirit Attack

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47    1    You unleash Ryu Tsui Sen on Ryouko Asakura for 17393 soul damage.
46    4    Soul Burst blasts Ryouko Asakura for 80478 soul damage.
46    3    Ryouko Asakura gains the effect Soul Fire.
46    2    You cast Soul Burst.


Spirit attack is laughably weak.
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post Nov 13 2010, 05:45
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Isn't that a Critical hit?

Then again, it probably still do more damage than SP attack anyway...
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post Nov 13 2010, 05:49
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Hmm... well thats awkward. You would hope a spirit attack would outdamage a spell. Guess not.
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post Nov 13 2010, 07:58
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Nov 13 2010, 03:36) *

This is on Battletoads. Channeled Soul Burst vs. 280% OC, 1395 SP Spirit Attack

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47    1    You unleash Ryu Tsui Sen on Ryouko Asakura for 17393 soul damage.
46    4    Soul Burst blasts Ryouko Asakura for 80478 soul damage.
46    3    Ryouko Asakura gains the effect Soul Fire.
46    2    You cast Soul Burst.


Spirit attack is laughably weak.


Thats a nice Critical hit, I'm still not happy with my damage/mana cost with Soul Burst.
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post Nov 13 2010, 08:58
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That's pretty low actually. I've gotten 125k on Konata and Mikuru a few times.
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