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post Aug 2 2011, 11:01
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Bringing your Undeads Holy Res to 75 could be a little costly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Aug 2 2011, 11:03
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 2 2011, 16:57) *

Then again, I think the limit for elemental increases was removed (except for max 75), soo, that one could potentially be staggering.


Hm....let's see how many crystals we need to make a holy-resistant undead...
That would be 10*round(1.25^150) = 3.44*10^15

Hm....Do we need Crystarium C or D to get there? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

No, what I should be asking is: Can the system record that amount of crystals without going insane!?

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post Aug 2 2011, 11:11
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That'd still take quite a while, even with Beyond Crystarium Legend 8001.

Unless at some point, the perks actually start decreasing the exponential part of the crystal cost curve instead of increasing your drops. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(varst @ Aug 2 2011, 11:03) *
Can the system record that amount of crystals without going insane!?

QUOTE(sushi0 @ Aug 1 2011, 22:00) *
I'm pretty sure before we even get anywhere close, we would already have 256-bit computers or better so that limit is pretty moot.

(Unrelated topic, but it still fits.)

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post Aug 2 2011, 11:16
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 2 2011, 11:03) *
No, what I should be asking is: Can the system record that amount of crystals without going insane!?


Not really. Item counts are all stored as 32-bit integers. But I kinda doubt it will be a limiting factor.
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:25
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 2 2011, 17:16) *

Not really. Item counts are all stored as 32-bit integers. But I kinda doubt it will be a limiting factor.


Hentai-verse, now with sanity limit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

When I studied physics and astronomy in college, I never imagined I would face that kinda insane numbers. Again.

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post Aug 2 2011, 11:31
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You could still break it if you wanted to. But not within a human lifetime, so you'd have to breed for that purpose.
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And hope Tenboro doesn't change the data type right before you break it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Aug 2 2011, 11:42
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 2 2011, 04:25) *

Hentai-verse, now with sanity limit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Sanity limits are meant to be broken. With that said, good luck with the next one though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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Hey, just because I live in the null set doesn't mean my life is empty. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:54
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Aug 2 2011, 10:30) *
Primary Stat Cost
[...]
Element Defense Cost
[...]

[unsolicited]
After some interpolation:
CODE
Primary Stat Cost = 1.90 ^ (level + 5.09488092)
CODE
Element Defense Cost = 1.25 ^ (level + 9.31885)
[/unsolicited]

Ignore this if the formula is already known (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:59
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Aug 2 2011, 17:54) *

[unsolicited]
After some interpolation:
CODE
Primary Stat Cost = 1.90 ^ (level + 5.09488092)
CODE
Element Defense Cost = 1.25 ^ (level + 9.31885)
[/unsolicited]

Ignore this if the formula is already known (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


A more precise one from wiki, seems to match the data we've seen

Primary stat: 50*round(1.9^N)
Elemental resistance: 10*round(1.25^N)

where N is the number of times a stat has been upgraded so far
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post Aug 2 2011, 12:16
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 2 2011, 11:59) *

A more precise one from wiki, seems to match the data we've seen

Primary stat: 50*round(1.9^N)
Elemental resistance: 10*round(1.25^N)

where N is the number of times a stat has been upgraded so far


Yes, they're basically the same, except mine use x instead of (x-1).
Wasted half an hour for nothing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
Oh well.
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post Aug 2 2011, 12:24
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 2 2011, 11:59) *
Primary stat: round(50*1.9^N)
Elemental resistance: round(10*1.25^N)

Fixed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 2 2011, 15:33
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QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ Aug 2 2011, 18:24) *

Fixed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I hate fighting konata in those legendary arenas.
The worst thing is that she's now resistant to soul spells (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Aug 2 2011, 16:43
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The first one who sends me 393 crystals of swiftness is going to win 393 crystals of fortitude.
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post Aug 2 2011, 16:44
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Aug 2 2011, 16:43) *

The first one who sends me 393 crystals of swiftness is going to win 393 crystals of fortitude.

sent.
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post Aug 2 2011, 16:46
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 2 2011, 15:44) *

sent.
Oh my, in just one minute? You a real hunter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 2 2011, 16:49
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Aug 2 2011, 16:46) *

Oh my, in just one minute? You a real hunter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You lucky. I wa sabout to start another IW.


Only 19000 more Fortitudes to go (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Aug 2 2011, 16:56
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Next round:
The first one who sends me 269 crystals of swiftness is going to win 269 crystals of vigor.

Edit:We have a winner, congrats dcherry.

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post Aug 2 2011, 23:42
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I'm getting extra credits but now I'm doing extra spending. Oh gawd, the shop was too tempting. I shopped til I dropped and watched my credit amount drop, too.


I was like,

"Look at all the shiny crystals."

"Screw it, just buy them ALL!"

"I'll worry about it tomorrow."

"It's not even real money."

"You'll get your dawn event credits in a few hours."

"Go for it."

"Don't even freak."

"You know there's more in the shop, go back and check."


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post Aug 2 2011, 23:54
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Aug 2 2011, 13:42) *

I was like,

"Look at all the shiny crystals."

"Screw it, just buy them ALL!"

"I'll worry about it tomorrow."

"It's not even real money."

"You'll get your dawn event credits in a few hours."

"Go for it."

"Don't even freak."

"You know there's more in the shop, go back and check."


Listen to these words; do you or someone you know sound like this?
Friends don't let friends get addicted to crystals. Seek help.
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post Aug 2 2011, 23:58
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Damn, there's quite a few people developing Frith's Syndrome™ in the wake of his absence and the lowering of crystal training/bazaar prices.
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