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Is it finally time to bribe my way to catgirl? I'm thinking maybe 1 million credits per star.

1 million per star is simply too low. I think most people can gather that amount of credits in 10 days.
10 million per gold star seems to be a good idea though.
But if I had 10 million credits I would choose to raise my LotD instead (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Is it finally time to bribe my way to catgirl? I'm thinking maybe 1 million credits per star.

How did you manage to bribe your first star anyways?

How did you manage to bribe your first star anyways?

If he didn't pay for it, maybe it was the 3500+ galleries?

If Tenb were to sell gold stars for credits I'd guess it would be closer to 10 million credits/star, a million for a bronze. 100 million GP for a star would be sick (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) but its an interesting idea. But then if there were to happen there would be another credit nerf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Well he wouldn't be the one buying the star for me, now would he? I'm pretty sure 1 million credits grossly outweighs the amount of credits tenboro gives for $100, and the buyer would be getting those too anyway.

1 million per star is simply too low. I think most people can gather that amount of credits in 10 days.

If the top tier 0.1% of players is "most people," then sure. If not, then why doesn't everyone have unspent millions lying around?

How did you manage to bribe your first star anyways?

Secret. I'm pretty sure I only paid 4-5 million GP for it though. That was quite awhile ago.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Aug 2 2011, 06:36

Well he wouldn't be the one buying the star for me, now would he? I'm pretty sure 1 million credits grossly outweighs the amount of credits tenboro gives for $100, and the buyer would be getting those too anyway.
If the top tier 0.1% of players is "most people," then sure. If not, then why doesn't everyone have unspent millions lying around?
Secret. I'm pretty sure I only paid 4-5 million GP for it though. That was quite awhile ago.

ya, I've always thought that was way too low. I've like to see $1=10,000c

btw if you have 10 stars wouldn't you get close to 1 billion exp for clearing the final arena on IWBTH?

If the top tier 0.1% of players is "most people," then sure. If not, then why doesn't everyone have unspent millions lying around?

For a lv. 150 guy, he can gain 16,800 credits just from clearing all the arenas.
Let's say he can also sell equipments to bazaar for 9000 credits, so he can gain 25,000 credits per day.
In this rate, he can gain 1 gold star for every 40 days in HV, approximately.

Assuming you need 3 months to reach lv.150, which is perfectly reasonable considering the exp we can get, it means everyone can get a gold star for 4 months of playing time, and can further gain 1 gold star per month just from clearing all the arenas.

Why will people donate to this site then?

Letting virtual currency to exchange for real benefits will always attract gold farming. I don't even need to explain that.

This post has been edited by varst: Aug 2 2011, 07:37

1 Million per Star would be to low. Given how much the daily hath sells now it would pay for itself very soon.

I would donate more often to get more gold stars...but you get a better return by buying server slots for a month. I really wish buying slots counted towards getting gold stars - aren't I still donating and supporting the site? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I would donate more often to get more gold stars...but you get a better return by buying server slots for a month. I really wish buying slots counted towards getting gold stars - aren't I still donating and supporting the site? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

The increase in hath is nice but what would make me really donate is if the EXP boosts were proportional to the number of stars. Right now the sweet spot is at one gold star, $100 for 100% increase versus $1000 for 300%. If people don't care about EXP, then I would agree with you that adopting slots are the way to go. I can't really comment on that though since I have never even adopted a single slot before.

The increase in hath is nice but what would make me really donate is if the EXP boosts were proportional to the number of stars. Right now the sweet spot is at one gold star, $100 for 100% increase versus $1000 for 300%. If people don't care about EXP, then I would agree with you that adopting slots are the way to go. I can't really comment on that though since I have never even adopted a single slot before.

ya, I went with a lot of server slots a long time ago and not getting catgirl. At the time I used the hath for auras and a few other perks. I sold a few hundred @2100c (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

When I went from 1 to 5 stars I was looking at the info in the wiki (that was wrong) so I got less then what I thought I would get.

It just doesn't make a lot of sense to donate sometimes.

For $50 I can donate, get 50k credits, and get a little closer to three gold stars. Or, I can spend $50 and get 5 server slots that will net me over 100k credits in a month through GP, and roughly 400 hath.

I want hath, since that will get me even more credits to do training and to invest into bounties. Donations just net me so little....

Letting virtual currency to exchange for real benefits will always attract gold farming. I don't even need to explain that.

You've missed the point completely. Tenboro still gets his cash from someone else, not valueless credits. You also apparently don't understand the concept of bribery since giving the credits to Tenboro would be a purchase, not a bribe.

I would donate more often to get more gold stars...but you get a better return by buying server slots for a month. I really wish buying slots counted towards getting gold stars - aren't I still donating and supporting the site? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Finite monthly amount of hath versus indefinite daily hath and credits?

i.e. short-term purchase versus long-term investment.

Unless you've spent over $1000 on slots or think you'll lose interest in the site quickly, no, you don't.

You've missed the point completely. Tenboro still gets his cash from someone else, not valueless credits. You also apparently don't understand the concept of bribery since giving the credits to Tenboro would be a purchase, not a bribe.

No no no, I am not talking about bribery. I am just talking about that '1 million credits into 1 gold star' thing.
Sorry if I make you misunderstand.

You also apparently don't understand the concept of bribery since giving the credits to Tenboro would be a purchase, not a bribe.

Or as cmdct would say, this is equivalent to giving Tenboro a 'bride.' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

1 million credits for a Gold Star ?

Sure. That's like, 160 Hath at the current market price ? Cheap, enhanced Rainbow aura. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Mika Kurogane: Aug 2 2011, 09:54

I'm sure a million is pretty enticing for non-spoiled high level players that still want to donate for the purpose of donating too, but I think the reason you're all confused is because you don't know how I acquired a star without donating. And no, I won't go into detail. The old people here should know it at least. I doubt it's even still allowed.


Also, I don't recall seeing anyone list the new crystal costs, so here they are. Keep in mind this is per stat, per monster.


Primary Stat Cost
01 - 50
02 - 95
03 - 181
04 - 343
05 - 652
06 - 1,238
07 - 2,352
08 - 4,469
09 - 8,492
10 - 16,134
11 - 30,655
12 - 58,245
13 - 110,666
14 - 210,265
15 - 399,503
16 - 759,056
17 - 1,442,207
18 - 2,740,193
19 - 5,206,368
20 - 9,892,098
21 - 18,794,987
22 - 35,710,475
23 - 67,849,902
24 - 128,914,814


Element Defense Cost
01 - 10
02 - 13
03 - 16
04 - 20
05 - 24
06 - 31
07 - 38
08 - 48
09 - 59
10 - 75
11 - 93
12 - 116
13 - 146
14 - 182
15 - 227
16 - 284
17 - 355
18 - 444
19 - 555
20 - 694
21 - 867
22 - 1,084
23 - 1,355
24 - 1,694
25 - 2,118
26 - 2,647
27 - 3,309
28 - 4,136
29 - 5,170
30 - 6,462
31 - 8,078
32 - 10,097
33 - 12,622
34 - 15,777
35 - 19,722
36 - 24,652
37 - 30,815
38 - 38,519
39 - 48,148
40 - 60,185
41 - 75,232
42 - 94,040
43 - 117,549
44 - 146,937
45 - 183,671
46 - 229,589
47 - 286,986
48 - 358,732
49 - 448,416
50 - 560,519


Crystarium IV, V, VI, VII where?

24 - 128,914,814

:Frithface:

CODE

24 - 128,914,814

Almost there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

24 - 128,914,814

:Frithface:

Well sure, if you want to raise a Giant's WIS to 25. That's the only monster stat in the system that can be raised 24 times.

Then again, I think the limit for elemental increases was removed (except for max 75), soo, that one could potentially be staggering.

Or as cmdct would say, this is equivalent to giving Tenboro a 'bride.' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Who knows if he needs one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm sure a million is pretty enticing for non-spoiled high level players that still want to donate for the purpose of donating too, but I think the reason you're all confused is because you don't know how I acquired a star without donating. And no, I won't go into detail. The old people here should know it at least. I doubt it's even still allowed.

No, it's not.

Also, I don't recall seeing anyone list the new crystal costs, so here they are. Keep in mind this is per stat, per monster.

People are lazy, aren't they?