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post Jul 19 2011, 10:18
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QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 19 2011, 03:15) *

So I'm guessing defense rating affects the damage taken from Void damage.
Should it then even be called VOID damage, but call it "Physical" instead.


There will probably be magical Void attacks at some point in the future. There is no "true" 'Seismic Toss' damage in the HV AFAIK.

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post Jul 19 2011, 10:20
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Jul 19 2011, 16:18) *

There will probably be magical Void attacks at some point in the future.


Judging from the fact that Konata's now resistant to soul, I don't think so.
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post Jul 19 2011, 10:24
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QUOTE(varst @ Jul 19 2011, 03:20) *

Judging from the fact that Konata's now resistant to soul, I don't think so.


Did not know this. Well, now the wiki is updated (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 10:26
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 19 2011, 03:16) *

Shield rating ahoi.
Spirit Shield makes life a bit easier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Problem is now you can randomly miss. if it was a fast monster it will hit hard and drain a lot of your spirit bar. Not fun deep within long Item Worlds. I can only imagine the butt rape that is Hitos Lagendary Item World on BT now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Does this mean I'll need to fill one of my item slots with something that's not "Godly Mana Pot"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 10:30
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Jul 19 2011, 10:26) *

Does this mean I'll need to fill one of my item slots with something that's not "Godly Mana Pot"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If by Mana you mean Spirit then yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

By the way:
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You hit Bunko for 7555 void damage.
You crit Bunko for 14762 void damage.


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post Jul 19 2011, 10:46
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QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 19 2011, 03:15) *

So I'm guessing defense rating affects the damage taken from Void damage.
Should it then even be called VOID damage, but call it "Physical" instead.

Before I got to testing, I figured void damage would do the same damage to everything, it being "unresistable".
But seems it's not UnDefendable.

No, you should just consider it an element that all monsters have 0 elemental resistance to, as described by tenboro. The amount of damage you do will still depend on your attack rating and the monster's shield rating.

QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 19 2011, 03:16) *
I can only imagine the butt rape that is Hitos Lagendary Item World on BT now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

It's called "Hito doesn't touch it with a 10 foot pole anymore." Hard difficulty gives a surprising frequency of 2 level level-ups now. Probably about 50%.
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post Jul 19 2011, 10:57
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jul 19 2011, 16:46) *

Hard difficulty gives a surprising frequency of 2 level level-ups now. Probably about 50%.


I feel the probability's about 30-40%, but I haven't recorded them down, so I maybe wrong.

By the way, how can I speed up EOD? Will it help using any of the spike shields?
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post Jul 19 2011, 11:04
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Yes well. Void damage sounds a lot like element. Nothing like: piercing, crushing, slashing.
But it seems void damage is physical damage, resistable by shield rating.
Would have been too clear to call is PHYSICAL. Void does sound nicer and more confusing.

Here we see me penetrating invisible pink unicorn from behind.

NOT PIERCED
5 1 You crit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 475 void damage.
4 1 You hit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 280 void damage.
3 2 You hit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 409 void damage.

PIERCED
8 1 You hit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 2680 void damage.
7 1 You hit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 2279 void damage.
6 1 You hit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 2587 void damage.
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post Jul 19 2011, 11:12
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If they don't add magical void damage, then yeah physical is less confusing and implies that SR is involved.
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post Jul 19 2011, 13:35
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jul 19 2011, 05:24) *

There, I finished them too. As a mage. I wouldn't recommend that to anyone else now that channeling has been changed. I'm apparently the only one to have beaten any of the legendary arenas as a mage on BT or IWBTH, before or after 0.6.0.
Congrats hito (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Oh oh, what's this? So sushi did as melee that's a surprise lol.

QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 19 2011, 10:04) *

Yes well. Void damage sounds a lot like element. Nothing like: piercing, crushing, slashing.
But it seems void damage is physical damage, resistable by shield rating.
Would have been too clear to call is PHYSICAL. Void does sound nicer and more confusing.
You're confusing things, you're hitting so it's a physical attack, that's not related to the element. You can hit with holy per example.
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post Jul 19 2011, 13:53
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Jul 19 2011, 05:55) *
Where are you guys getting those extra emoticons? They're not in the smilies panel (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Right-click the images and inspect the URLs.

Get ready to excrete construction materials as well.
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post Jul 19 2011, 14:08
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 19 2011, 11:30) *

By the way:
CODE
You hit Bunko for 7555 void damage.
You crit Bunko for 14762 void damage.



Oh It's ON NOW !!
Well, when I get around to it.
My best smashers are still Soul.

QUOTE(cmdct @ Jul 19 2011, 14:35) *

You're confusing things, you're hitting so it's a physical attack, that's not related to the element. You can hit with holy per example.


Humm yes.
But I still want to know, what makes people/monsters more resistant to void damage.
...Since it's "not resistable", it has to be either barrier or shield rating.

FSM takes nice damage from holy when pierced.
Your offhand hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 36215 holy damage.
You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 71009 holy damage.
Your offhand hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 38254 holy damage.
You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 81392 holy damage.
22 2 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated.
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post Jul 19 2011, 14:33
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QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 19 2011, 12:08) *

But I still want to know, what makes people/monsters more resistant to void damage.
...Since it's "not resistable", it has to be either barrier or shield rating.
When you hit, it's attack rating vs shield rating, when you cast, it's magic rating vs barrier rating.
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post Jul 19 2011, 14:53
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 19 2011, 11:30) *

By the way:
CODE
You hit Bunko for 7555 void damage.
You crit Bunko for 14762 void damage.



By the way:
You crit Ichy for 56452 void damage.
Ichy has been defeated.

(IMG:[lulzimg.com] http://lulzimg.com/i24/548f7d.jpg)

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post Jul 19 2011, 15:11
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QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 19 2011, 14:53) *

By the way:
You crit Ichy for 56452 void damage.
Ichy has been defeated.

(IMG:[lulzimg.com] http://lulzimg.com/i24/548f7d.jpg)

Im still alive and kicking (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 15:26
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Yes, I got nothing against yous.
Just trying to play along.
And I cheated using a chewing gum + 2 soul stones (which are extinct ?)

=EDIT=
23 4 You have been defeated.
23 3 Tsuruya crits you for 1792 piercing damage.
23 2 You gain the effect Fleeing.
23 1 You use Flee.

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post Jul 19 2011, 15:29
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post Jul 19 2011, 15:43
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QUOTE(varst @ Jul 19 2011, 17:29) *

I will never, never name my monster using my own name. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I hope you've not forgot what somebody else can do it for ya. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jul 19 2011, 15:45
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jul 19 2011, 21:43) *

I hope you've not forgot what somebody else can do it for ya. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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- Do not create monsters based on other people on the forum without their permission.
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post Jul 19 2011, 16:44
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Origianlly posted in Complaints, proof of wastedness.

You guys already see the Excel sheet about monsters ?
The first reply is by an exceptionally cool (and wasted) monster holder.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=72
==edit==
No I didn't post there on purpose.
Some thing actually DO destroy your braincells, I has it.

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