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post Nov 7 2010, 07:17
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My theory about Fleet items is that it added up to 1.75 base evade to the gears.

Since the maximum base evade I found for pants seem to be 4.5, 6.25 base evade seem to be the maximum for pants.

But my theory doesn't seem to add up when it's come to shoes.. I believed I saw silk shoe with base evade of 3 or higher before, and the gossamer one with base of 3.25 do exist, but I never saw fleet shoes that have higher base evade than 4.25 (I have one with 4.25) If my theory is correct, it SHOULD have higher, but so far I have seen none.

EDIT: Heh.. so Lord_Obagon did sold those [hv.e-hentai.org] 6.75 robe and this [hv.e-hentai.org] pre-nerfed phase to Conquest101 ... I should have contacted him a long time ago.. How much did you paid for it BTW ?

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post Nov 7 2010, 11:15
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Heh.. so 6.25 is not the maximum base evade for pants...

Average Silk Pants of the Fleet

Now, what should I do with it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 7 2010, 11:21
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you should give it to me...
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post Nov 7 2010, 11:38
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Disregard.

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post Nov 7 2010, 11:41
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QUOTE(cptkleenex @ Nov 7 2010, 05:38) *

Disregard.

No sir, I will not.
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post Nov 7 2010, 16:39
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Nov 6 2010, 21:03) *

Don't look at me, I prefer power, or better dead mob= 100% evade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Who knows if there's someone maging battletoads using high evade silk.


How much +miss chance does 1 point of supportive proficiency give? Anyone have the exact number? I can almost see myself using high evade earth-walker gear for that purpose, at least in regards to shoes. It'd be a minor difference at best, but whatever.

Although, I barely use my evade stuff even when I AM doing battletoads stuff, so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Nov 7 2010, 17:14
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I just noticed cmals shop is gone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Wait what? I did not know about this.


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post Nov 7 2010, 17:26
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 7 2010, 07:14) *

I just noticed cmals shop is gone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Wait what? I did not know about this.


Via Shadowveil.

cmal closed his shop after the ass-rape nerf we suffered.
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post Nov 7 2010, 18:37
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QUOTE(buktore @ Nov 6 2010, 21:17) *

EDIT: Heh.. so Lord_Obagon did sold those [hv.e-hentai.org] 6.75 robe and this [hv.e-hentai.org] pre-nerfed phase to Conquest101 ... I should have contacted him a long time ago.. How much did you paid for it BTW ?

Probably a ridiculously unfairly low value.
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post Nov 7 2010, 18:48
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271 9 You gain 1084 Credits!
271 8 You gain 37390.02 EXP!
271 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
271 6 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
271 5 Arena Clear Bonus! [Godly Mana Potion]
271 4 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair]
271 3 You are Victorious!

There's my first Chaos Token. Looking forward to finding out what it does.
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post Nov 7 2010, 19:19
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So let me get this straight. If I want actual high evade equipment drops I have to play a new character at an extremely low level and get the same shitty Average/Fine Fleet pieces? Only they'll have incredible base evade and just need to be leveled? Yeah, that sounds about right. Let's worry more about continual nerfings and price drops instead of a serious flaw in equipment generation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


As for Chaos Tokens, I've decided they must be worthless POS since I've already gotten a lot of them. I've never gotten anything of value on a consistent basis other than staffs, and that's long gone now.
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post Nov 7 2010, 19:27
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Nov 7 2010, 09:19) *

So let me get this straight. If I want actual high evade equipment drops I have to play a new character at an extremely low level and get the same shitty Average/Fine Fleet pieces? Only they'll have incredible base evade and just need to be leveled? Yeah, that sounds about right. Let's worry more about continual nerfings and price drops instead of a serious flaw in equipment generation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I've taken issue with this for a long, long time. My solution was a nerfing of base values along with an increase in scaling.

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Nov 7 2010, 09:19) *

As for Chaos Tokens, I've decided they must be worthless POS since I've already gotten a lot of them. I've never gotten anything of value on a consistent basis other than staffs, and that's long gone now.

I get the at a rate a little below my rate of Tokens of Blood, so, if it is equal to that, it is mildly useful.
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post Nov 7 2010, 19:35
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Nov 7 2010, 08:37) *

Probably a ridiculously unfairly low value.


Missed this earlier. I wasn't planning on advertising it, but the cat's out of the bag I guess.

I don't offer ridiculously lowball amounts for things I really want.

I gave him an offer of 500k for the 2. He accepted it with no haggling, so done deal. Not sure if you consider that a "ridiculously unfairly low value" though.

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As for me I got 7 Chaos Tokens and in the meantime only 2 or 3 Tokens of Blood.
So I agree with hito. They're probably worthess.
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post Nov 7 2010, 19:44
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 7 2010, 09:35) *

I gave him an offer of 500k for the 2. He accepted it with no haggling, so done deal. Not sure if you consider that a "ridiculously unfairly low value" though.

Yes, that is, and you know it.
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post Nov 7 2010, 19:49
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Nov 7 2010, 09:44) *

Yes, that is, and you know it.


This coming from someone who acquired a certain cap with higher base evade for not much more than that? And who would certainly have gotten it for even less had I not been involved as well. And pre-credit nerf I might add.

And yes, I know it's a great deal. We have a slightly different perspective when it comes to large chunks of credits though. And by we, I mean I do, since I have no idea what your bloody perspective is on anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Nov 7 2010, 20:15
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 7 2010, 09:49) *

This coming from someone who acquired a certain cap with higher base evade for not much more than that?

Not much more than that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
2 pieces for 500k (250k each) versus:
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 7 2010, 09:49) *

And pre-credit nerf I might add.

I'd have easily given him a million for both right now. I mean, nothing I ever get ever in the future will compare to those. How could I justify sparing any expense?
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Nov 7 2010, 10:15) *

Not much more than that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
2 pieces for 500k (250k each) versus:
I'd have easily given him a million for both right now. I mean, nothing I ever get ever in the future will compare to those. How could I justify sparing any expense?


Meh I remembered it as 600k for some reason. Also, 90% of my interest was in the pants so my exact offer was 400k for the pants/100k for the robe. In case you're curious.

I'll sell you both for 2 million. (Not really)

The problem is, you can easily say that in hindsight, but for example, with Karagme's auction, it's not like you immediately offered 1 million credits for his cap, despite being willing to pay that much (I assume).

I offered 5 times what you initially bid on the cap (once again going off of memory). If Lord_Obagon had made a counter-offer I would have raised my offer, but things are what they are.

Also, this is why I had no particular desire to post about this.

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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 7 2010, 10:32) *

The problem is, you can easily say that in hindsight, but for example, with Karagme's auction, it's not like you immediately offered 1 million credits for his cap, despite being willing to pay that much (I assume).

That's because:
1) I didn't have a million credits when the auction started. I think I had 400k. I did end with 1.3 million.
2) As it was a public auction, the market would determine the price.

QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 7 2010, 10:32) *

I'll sell you both for 2 million. (Really)

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post Nov 7 2010, 20:48
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Nov 7 2010, 10:39) *

That's because:
1) I didn't have a million credits when the auction started. I think I had 400k. I did end with 1.3 million.
2) As it was a public auction, the market would determine the price.
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1) Irrelevant since you didn't offer 400k initially either. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
2) The market being the 2 of us basically. Take me out of the equation and you most likely would also have gotten that cap for a "ridiculously unfairly low value".
And I doubt many people beyond us stupid high levels with tons of credits to throw around would consider hundreds of thousands of credits to be ridiculously low in the first place.

Is modifying other people's quotes going to be the new fad around here now? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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