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I'm interested in everything besides Giants, Mechs, Celestials, Daimons, Humanoids, and Sprites. Maybe Elementals, too, for now. Would it have been faster to type Avions, Arthropods, Sauropods, Dragons, and Undead?

I think your exception has already covered more than half of the available monster class (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Elemental can be nasty. Just look at Ichy.

I've already got Tsuruya and I'm combining her with Churuya. Her next Skill is going to be Nyoron and she's going to dropped Smoked Cheese.
I'm interested in everything besides Giants, Mechs, Celestials, Daimons, Humanoids, and Sprites. Maybe Elementals, too, for now. Would it have been faster to type Avions, Arthropods, Sauropods, Dragons, and Undead?

I see.

My Insect, Bird and Dragon bring home a lot of loot. Crystals are well invested here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Worst of these 3 would be the Bird.

I see.

My Insect, Bird and Dragon bring home a lot of loot. Crystals are well invested here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Worst of these 3 would be the Bird.

Insects and dragon maybe a better choice for killing-machine than giants?
Because they have some INT and WIS to at least defend themselves from spells?

Out of Ichy's monsters, I find Kenshiro the hardest to deal with, since it doesn't die from a targeted tier 1 elec spell on normal, nor a targeted tier 2 elec spell on hard. (I only use elementalist gear btw)

Everything else is pretty squishy. Ichy, the elemental especially. Shame on you varst for suggesting any difficulty there. It's like a walking Ether Theft blob.

Out of Ichy's monsters, I find Kenshiro the hardest to deal with

If you use Elemantalist gear why not attack his weakness? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Cuz I'm probably retarded.


Well actually it's more like I have fire and electric on my quickbar and I'm too lazy to switch it around. Which is silly because I still manually select-cast blizzard to clear out the dragonkins from time to time, lol.

Elemental can be nasty. Just look at Ichy.

Elementals are lolweak. Sure they might survive one magic attack, but I can't think of anything with a softer attack.

They are awesome for Ether Theft though. I just wished they could survive more than a couple taps from my staff.

I'm interested in everything besides Giants, Mechs, Celestials, Daimons, Humanoids, and Sprites. Maybe Elementals, too, for now. Would it have been faster to type Avions, Arthropods, Sauropods, Dragons, and Undead?

Aren't you missing Beasts in that list?

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Jul 16 2011, 08:51

Elementals are lolweak. Sure they might survive one magic attack, but I can't think of anything with a softer attack.

Surviving one magic attack is good enough. You don't always need to be the one to deal the killing blow.

Let those dragons and giants do the fighting. My flaming spirit will just happily wait aside (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by varst: Jul 16 2011, 10:01

So, some quick investigating reveals that the Grindfest stamina consumption is now 0.05 for both Great and Normal status, making playing on Normal status pointless and stupid since you'll be losing out on the bonuses.

That is dumb, and also a bug. It was supposed to be double drain rate both for great and normal, not just for normal as it was before.

Oh also, I was reading some other posts that didn't make sense to me, as apparently there was something wrong with the equipment price calculation. All equipment used to have a base price factor depending on whether or not they had a suffix, but since all equipment has that now, this part of the code was removed in the rewrite - except the wrong factor remained. So uhm, that explains why everything, and not just common staffs, dropped in value.

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You crit Mikuru Asahina for 9005 void damage.

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So uhm, that explains why everything, and not just common staffs, dropped in value.

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This post has been edited by Ichy: Jul 16 2011, 10:14

If I understand it correctly you are punished for caring about your Monster!
I suggest the time bonus since the last gift wont get resettled every time you look at your monster page.
To prevent F5ing it will roll for gifts only once every 1-2 hours?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why checking every hour doesn't hurt your chances... the math going on in my head says it does. Maybe it's just because it's 4am that I'm having trouble with this.

That is dumb, and also a bug. It was supposed to be double drain rate both for great and normal, not just for normal as it was before.

Oh also, I was reading some other posts that didn't make sense to me, as apparently there was something wrong with the equipment price calculation. All equipment used to have a base price factor depending on whether or not they had a suffix, but since all equipment has that now, this part of the code was removed in the rewrite - except the wrong factor remained. So uhm, that explains why everything, and not just common staffs, dropped in value.

So... The good news is that stuff will sell for more. What does your comment mean in regards to grindfest, is the drain rate still .05 for both?

That is dumb, and also a bug. It was supposed to be double drain rate both for great and normal, not just for normal as it was before.

No one in their right mind would play grindfest now, unless they play under 400 rounds a day.

Oh also, I was reading some other posts that didn't make sense to me, as apparently there was something wrong with the equipment price calculation. All equipment used to have a base price factor depending on whether or not they had a suffix, but since all equipment has that now, this part of the code was removed in the rewrite - except the wrong factor remained. So uhm, that explains why everything, and not just common staffs, dropped in value.

Well that is good news at least. Non-staffs look back to what they were, I guess, and staffs look to have about half as much reduction. The legendary staff value feels cheated, not that I'd ever sell it to the Bazaar. Does anyone even still redeem trophies for staffs solely for credit gain?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why checking every hour doesn't hurt your chances... the math going on in my head says it does. Maybe it's just because it's 4am that I'm having trouble with this.
So... The good news is that stuff will sell for more. What does your comment mean in regards to grindfest, is the drain rate still .05 for both?

From what i understand: If you get nothing it will roll again in one hour with 2 hours worth of Bonus.

drain rate should be .10 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

That is dumb, and also a bug. It was supposed to be double drain rate both for great and normal, not just for normal as it was before.

Oh also, I was reading some other posts that didn't make sense to me, as apparently there was something wrong with the equipment price calculation. All equipment used to have a base price factor depending on whether or not they had a suffix, but since all equipment has that now, this part of the code was removed in the rewrite - except the wrong factor remained. So uhm, that explains why everything, and not just common staffs, dropped in value.

So now it's 0.1 stamina drain for playing every level of grindfest in great status? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
That's an upkeep of 70 credits per round!
Any reason to grind now?

And I demand refund for those equipments I have sold in these few days, because I have noticed that everything drops in value (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

From what i understand: If you get nothing it will roll again in one hour with 2 hours worth of Bonus.

That's not how I understood it at all.

The time is kept in hours, in an unknown number of decimal values, and is reset to zero every time you check.

Battles won are tallied since your last received item and are reset only when you receive an item.

The two values are multiplied together to give you your chance of getting an item, and that value has to be higher than a random roll between 0 and 100.

So, the obvious solution to getting items quickly is to have your monsters win 100+ battles per hour. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jul 16 2011, 10:37

So now it's 0.1 stamina drain for playing every level of grindfest in great status? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
That's an upkeep of 70 credits per round!
Any reason to grind now?

And I demand refund for those equipments I have sold in these few days, because I have noticed that everything drops in value (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

At this point i pretty much wish old grindfest´back. Credits a day limit but no Stamina drain so I can go find Crystals without Red Bull Shopping.

So, the obvious solution to getting items quickly to have your monsters win 100+ battles per hour. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Lets make a deal. You get yourself killed by Liselotte at the end of your runs and I get myself killed at Eilas Hands (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

/edit: Wow. Did the Twilight as melee on hard and it was still very fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
/edit: on normal 15 seconds for each non Konata round!

This post has been edited by Ichy: Jul 16 2011, 10:48

Lets make a deal. You get yourself killed by Liselotte at the end of your runs and I get myself killed at Eilas Hands (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That would still be easy to abuse. We can just both agree to suicide against each other's monsters.

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At this point i pretty much wish old grindfest´back. Credits a day limit but no Stamina drain so I can go find Crystals without Red Bull Shopping.

Nah, the old grindfest's not good.
If you want items only you can just grind the item world. Compared to the old grindfest you probably just loss those 3000 credits per day. And there's no limit on how many times you can enter everyday, unlike the old grindfest.
Cmdct is smart to exchange those uncertain artifacts for energy drinks.