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Aug 24 2025, 03:08
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Necromusume
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Aug 24 2025, 03:56
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shote1369
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The 3rd day bred by Ponies. It's really so pain in the hole, suddenly. (T^T)
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Aug 24 2025, 12:09
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Noni
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ Aug 24 2025, 03:56)  The 3rd day bred by Ponies. It's really so pain in the hole, suddenly. (T^T)
ponies strong. Weaken them, use all scrolls. And magnet & imperil to finish them all off
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Aug 24 2025, 19:06
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shote1369
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QUOTE(Noni @ Aug 24 2025, 17:09)  ponies strong. Weaken them, use all scrolls. And magnet & imperil to finish them all off
Thank to ya advice. The problem is Snom could tame them in the past 3 days ago, then, now they bred Snom's hole, badly...... (T=T)
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Aug 25 2025, 19:19
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shote1369
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Aug 24 2025, 08:08) 
In Snom eyes now: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/DCtIf86.jpeg) Btw, it's the 4th .... (T___T) UPDATED: Everything is fine now .... The Hive Fleet Leviathan's tendrils Ponies Gang are tamed in today ! (^3^) This post has been edited by shote1369: Aug 26 2025, 02:52
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Aug 30 2025, 19:07
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zundaya
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I want to ask how long it took you to earn your first 300hath?
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Aug 30 2025, 19:28
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Noni
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QUOTE(zundaya @ Aug 30 2025, 19:07)  I want to ask how long it took you to earn your first 300hath?
really not that long at all. Couple of weeks, maybe a month or so?
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Aug 30 2025, 21:43
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sparroff
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QUOTE(zundaya @ Aug 30 2025, 20:07)  I want to ask how long it took you to earn your first 300hath? For my first serious purchases i had to work in the mines for pennies (Editing Bounties) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Sep 6 2025, 07:47
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Noni
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QUOTE(Hinata x Sakura @ Sep 6 2025, 02:49)  i've just come back playing the game after 1+ year, now i forgotten everything... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Any heads up on where should i start again? Perhaps best not to bother with isekai and wait for the new season if you want isekai. The Loot & Harvest festival starts end of september, which gives you a nice boost of equipment drops in persistent. So you could perhaps save up some tokens of blood for that. For the rest, no changes since last year. For help with optimizing a specific style, you're invited to use the ask-the-experts thread.
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Sep 14 2025, 05:05
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hydoc
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QUOTE(Noni @ Sep 12 2025, 16:57)  Salty Fish Shop
QUOTE(SFShop @ Nov 2 2021, 08:34)  Salty Fish Shop (SFShop) is a rental shop designed to help new players get a better warrior experience, services are completely free. The generosity of some of the folks here astounds me. That's time and headache, too. ...I feel like there ought to be a happy medium between that and the current rental shop. I'm not trying to pass judgment; it's simply a lot of credits to flush down the drain as long as isekai exists. Speaking of isekai, the op of the 'ask the experts' thread is odd. It correctly asserts that there is no downside whatsoever as long as you don't need all the gp for all the old, non-torrentable pixels right now. Yet the wording seems at odds with that truth. It also seems to indicate that persistent and experimentation make good bedfellows, but isekai is much better in that department, too. These aren't novel arguments, I'm sure, but I think we're doing newcomers a disservice with the current language (and with the current habit of suggesting equipment rental/purchases without also suggesting isekai). Empowering beginners with the knowledge of how to get their own good midgame equipment should benefit everyone: more will continue to play (from feeling rewarded and having more enjoyment/less frustration), chat will be livelier, and (slightly) more of those blue-moon drops will be put up for auction. The site might find more donators, too. A few will be disappointed by less opportunity to profit off of newbies, but that's a minority (and if profit is their overriding concern, then that's not a group that should be heeded). edit: wow, that was a fast edit to the op. In hindsight, I should have suggested new wording instead of just criticizing, so sorry about that. I feel like the best time to start isekai is anytime, especially since you get all those first-time arena and rob clear bonuses, but that's quibbling. It's a good summary. I can just be the resident isekai apologist in the future, heh. As for the rental shop, I'm busy now, but in a couple months I might be able to put my money where my mouth is. I have an idea that shouldn't compete while also being more affordable. edit 2 (much later): so... this was largely absurd, lazy, and poorly phrased. I -do- think isekai is great and I -do- think equipment rentals are largely a waste, but there's no comparing to a 30-50 forged force at these lower levels and hollowforged slaughter sticks are great too, plus the whole operation (especially the forging and iw-ing) is an awesome service. The profiting bit was not directed at the rental service (honest; I was thinking more of... mmm better to stop there) and didn't need to be included at all. But I was big dumb and big butt and will own up to that, so no changing it now. This post has been edited by hydoc: Oct 1 2025, 07:33
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Sep 22 2025, 08:28
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ultramage
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Yesterday I received a HV stamina drain penalty for 'low riddle accuracy'. My isekai tower clear limit was also reduced from 5 to 1 which is kinda unfair for a time limited event. Tenboro you need to at least double the alotted time when there's more than one character in the image. I got such a bad image overlap rng that even after a triple take I wasn't able to determine the identifying features of one of them.
I think the current design is bad. There is a reason why these sorts of captchas use simple standard shapes and not random jpegs. The fact that you use image variations, remove the color, rotat them and overlap them, can make it really difficult to discern the individual characters. Furthermore, the task as-is requires examining the identifying traits of all 3 characters, not just recognizing any one of them. 60 seconds is not enough for that. I also wonder how effective this thing is against the modern online AIs.
This post has been edited by ultramage: Sep 22 2025, 12:31
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Sep 22 2025, 10:18
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_LMF_
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QUOTE(ultramage @ Sep 22 2025, 14:28)  Yesterday I received a HV stamina drain penalty for 'low riddle accuracy'. My isekai tower clear limit was also reduced from 5 to 1 which is kinda unfair for a time limited event. Tenboro you need to at least double the alotted time when there's more than one character in the image. I got such a bad image overlap rng that even after a triple take I wasn't able to determine the identifying features of one of them.
I think the current design is bad. There is a reason why these sorts of captchas use simple standard shapes and not random jpegs. The fact that you use image variations, remove the color, rotat them and overlap them, can make it really difficult to discern the individual characters. Furthermore, the task as-is requires examining the identifying traits of all 3 characters, not just recognizing any one of them. 60 seconds is not enough for that. I also wonder how effective this thing is against the modern online AIs.
QUOTE The Player may attempt and clear the Tower 5 times per day until Floor 20, after which only one Floor may be cleared per day with, and only three attempts per day. Successfully completing a Floor will prevent attempting the Tower again until the following day. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_TowerNothing to do with captchas.
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Sep 22 2025, 11:02
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ultramage
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eep. thanks for pointing it out. that page is so number dense that I missed that detail. and it's also unfortunate timing that I got to 20 on that particular battle. I initially thought that the cutoff was a one-day thing caused by reaching the next threshold, but it persisted into next day so I came to that conclusion. I should have realized that's not it when the Riddlemaster wiki section didn't mention anything other than the stamina drain.
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Sep 23 2025, 05:54
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ultramage
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Day 3 of being stuck on red stamina drain. Can't do pretty much anything since any action I do eats 2 stamina. I've only seen one prompt and it only gave me like 20 seconds to solve it. I think I did, but nothing changed. The wiki says the time limit gets shorter with level which also makes no sense in context. I may be too old to be capable of solving it fast enough. I used to be good at it back then when it was simpler, to get the bonus recovery, now with the added complexity I can barely make it with seconds left. Didn't the old one have a fixed 120 seconds? Anyway, is there somewhere I can submit feedback regarding this?
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Sep 23 2025, 07:24
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Necromusume
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Maybe play Isekai, then you start with the most lenient version since you are level 1. Study the pony chart first. I personally think it's trivial. I usually just go by the tails. And/or/the hair.
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Sep 23 2025, 13:15
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ultramage
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I am playing on isekai, that's where I got the stamina shaft. It doesn't seem to go away with time elapsed. The timer seems to be random, or, somehow depends on the complexity of the image. I think 3 copies of the same pony gets only 20 seconds, but I don't get the prompt frequently enough to tell for sure. I can tell you one thing for sure, I am not capable of 'consulting the pony chart' this quickly, especially if I need to check several times to confirm I'm seeing it right. If I understand correctly, this is a captcha to stop automated play bots. A key aspect of those is that they're supposed to be easy to solve by humans. I guess then I'm a data point for it not working correctly. Time limits on captchas exist to either timeout a 1995-grade slow image processing algorithm, or a mechanical turk indian call center. Nowadays sites give you around 5 minutes. Just 20 seconds is really questionable. Furthermore, in case the answer isn't correct, the captcha simply refreshes and prompts again. From the PoV of an amateur backend dev, the solution Hentaiverse uses is, to put it politely, 'abnormal'.
This post has been edited by ultramage: Sep 23 2025, 13:50
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Sep 23 2025, 13:39
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Nezu
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QUOTE(ultramage @ Sep 23 2025, 12:15)  Time limits on captchas exist to either timeout a 1995-grade slow image processing algorithm, or a mechanical turk indian call center. Nowadays sites give you around 5 minutes. Just 20 seconds is really questionable. Furthermore, in case the answer isn't correct, the captcha simply refreshes and prompts again. From the PoV of an amateur backend dev, the solution Hentaiverse uses is, to put it politely, 'abnormal'.
Not that I'm disagreeing that the Riddlemaster is - put generously - inconvenient, but E-Hentai is a globally available personal website contending with considerable bot traffic. There are additional constraints - it doesn't utilise the same tracking or fingerprinting resources as other sites to manage bots, because privacy is a foremost concern. It doesn't require your banking details, your mobile number, any form of ID, so anonymity here is relatively high even to Tenboro. The reason the Riddlemaster doesn't refresh when you give a bad answer - or give any feedback at all - is to limit the ability to train image recognition models by denying accurate classification data. The short timer is important insofar as it limits the response window for scripters (behaving somewhat like your 'mechanical turk indian call center'); it starts off longer to give genuine newbies time to learn the images.
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