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May 30 2011, 09:14
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Namespoofer
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Okay time to turn in 300 trophies, the decision is whether I should go for cloth armor or staff?
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May 30 2011, 09:26
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(Ichy @ May 29 2011, 23:07)  /r/ Are you a denizen of 4chan too, Ichy? QUOTE(Namespoofer @ May 30 2011, 00:14)  Okay time to turn in 300 trophies, the decision is whether I should go for cloth armor or staff? I usually go for Staff, since the vast majority will be complete vendor trash, and trash Staffs sell for significantly more then trash cloth. However, even the worst elemental EDB phase is better than the best used to be, and you're likely to get around 10 pieces of phase from 300 trophies. So it's your call.
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May 30 2011, 09:33
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(Namespoofer @ May 30 2011, 15:14)  Okay time to turn in 300 trophies, the decision is whether I should go for cloth armor or staff?
If you're feeling lucky, go Cloth. Get 1 Phase armor with Max EDB and sell it for millions.
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May 30 2011, 09:37
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Ichy
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ May 30 2011, 09:26)  Are you a denizen of 4chan too, Ichy?
Yes. But not so much any more since we got captcha (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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May 30 2011, 09:46
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ May 30 2011, 02:26)  I usually go for Staff, since the vast majority will be complete vendor trash, and trash Staffs sell for significantly more then trash cloth. However, even the worst elemental EDB phase is better than the best used to be, and you're likely to get around 10 pieces of phase from 300 trophies.
So it's your call.
Or do what I do. Turn in hundreds of trophies for cloth and get 13 owl/fox and 3 elementals phase pieces.
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May 30 2011, 13:10
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flint
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What's the opposite of a genius? Doofus? Well, I'm that when it comes to calculating shop prizes. I sold Average Phase Gloves of Heimdall for 2013c while appearently, I could have gotten way more than that. What guidelines do I need to go by to not look like a sad puppy after a sale? This post has been edited by flint: May 30 2011, 13:19
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May 30 2011, 13:31
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(flint @ May 30 2011, 12:10)  What's the opposite of a genius? Doofus? Well, I'm that when it comes to calculating shop prizes. I sold Average Phase Gloves of Heimdall for 2013c while appearently, I could have gotten way more than that. What guidelines do I need to go by to not look like a sad puppy after a sale? Ask advice from other players not involved in the sale per example.
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May 30 2011, 13:33
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(flint @ May 30 2011, 05:10)  What's the opposite of a genius? Doofus? Well, I'm that when it comes to calculating shop prizes. I sold Average Phase Gloves of Heimdall for 2013c while appearently, I could have gotten way more than that. What guidelines do I need to go by to not look like a sad puppy after a sale? Erm. Aren't these like.. very awesome? I thought the new max for gloves was 3.89. These have 4.19.
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May 30 2011, 14:38
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varst
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QUOTE(flint @ May 30 2011, 19:10)  What's the opposite of a genius? Doofus? Well, I'm that when it comes to calculating shop prizes. I sold Average Phase Gloves of Heimdall for 2013c while appearently, I could have gotten way more than that. What guidelines do I need to go by to not look like a sad puppy after a sale? I should say something, but i really don't know what i should say without making either you or me unhappy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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May 30 2011, 14:55
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Sayo Aisaka
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ May 30 2011, 12:33)  Erm. Aren't these like.. very awesome? I thought the new max for gloves was 3.89. These have 4.19.
Maximum EDB roll is 15. For gloves that scales to 13.5, which rounds to 14 (.5 usually rounds up where computers are concerned), which scales to 4.19.
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May 30 2011, 15:10
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ May 30 2011, 06:55)  Maximum EDB roll is 15. For gloves that scales to 13.5, which rounds to 14 (.5 usually rounds up where computers are concerned), which scales to 4.19.
Can't you please edit the first post in the maximum stats topic? You have your fancy mod rights after all.. and if Conquest isn't gonna bother...
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May 30 2011, 16:10
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ May 30 2011, 06:10)  Can't you please edit the first post in the maximum stats topic? You have your fancy mod rights after all.. and if Conquest isn't gonna bother...
Feel free. It's not likely I'm going to be keeping it up to date for the near future. Or if someone wants to make a nice post with the information in the proper format, I'll at least take the trouble to copy-paste it into the OP. Anything beyond that though....
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May 30 2011, 16:32
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varst
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Maybe we can put that into wiki? We have a wiki page which tells equipment numbers, but 1.I have no idea why level 300 values should be used instead of base numbers. 2.Why there's a need to post the equipments link; we need to prove that the numbers are correct!? 3.There's recommendations on equipments, but that's pretty subjective and maybe outdated. Those numbers posted in maximum stats thread can be converted to wiki form, but the fact is that many of those numbers are observed maximum only, without any proof that they are the theoretical maximum. P.S. The painful part is that it's a time-consuming process to find the theoretical maximum, of course This post has been edited by varst: May 30 2011, 16:54
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May 30 2011, 16:53
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Sayo Aisaka
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Apr 1 2011, 01:20)  I have a feeling this kind of thing should go in the wiki once it's all collated
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May 30 2011, 17:03
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varst
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QUOTE I have a feeling this kind of thing should go in the wiki once it's all collated
I feel you're just kidding before you figure out how the whole thing may work (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) But that thread's still useful, as only those data on prof., EDB and mitigation are fairly certain
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May 30 2011, 18:20
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flint
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QUOTE(varst @ May 30 2011, 14:38)  I should say something, but i really don't know what i should say without making either you or me unhappy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It would, wouldn't it? Hm. Well, as you can put it to good use, I'll keep my anger to myself. By which I mean, of course, not selling it anywhere for bigger profit. It just pisses me off that it happened to me again. Yes, I had a ~43% block shield that I gave away pretty cheap. You know, I can only estimate on things I myself feel like being usable. QUOTE(cmdct @ May 30 2011, 13:31)  Ask advice from other players not involved in the sale per example.
Yes, yes, good idea indeed. Except I don't know which ones are even capable of being of much worth. And always having to ask for advice on every little equip seems kinda redundant. I am almost in the mood to pay for someone I can throw equips at to look at whenever I feel like it. For example, I already feel worried about this one: QUOTE ...is what someone wrote me. Are these heavily underpriced, too? This post has been edited by flint: May 30 2011, 18:20
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May 30 2011, 18:25
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hitokiri84
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If hands and legs round up, then the new values are:
Elemental Damage Bonus (Base) Head: 4.48 Body: 5.38 Hands: 4.19 Legs: 5.08 Feet: 3.59
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May 30 2011, 18:28
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 30 2011, 10:25)  If hands and legs round up, then the new values are:
Elemental Damage Bonus (Base) Head: 4.48 Body: 5.38 Hands: 4.19 Legs: 5.08 Feet: 3.59
Bookmarked. @flint That's superior junk. Things like that go directly to the bazaar. (Well I'd keep an eye for MAX spirit-ward and thrice-blessed though.)
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May 30 2011, 18:38
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flint
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Thank you, grunnypoo (eh, doesn't work that well).
So basically, the closer to the maximum stats of the suffix-enhanced stat, the higher the cost should be? Then I'll at least have something to base my selling strategy on.
Thanks, everybawdy!
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