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post Sep 9 2023, 13:30
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QUOTE(Hinoka @ Sep 9 2023, 05:34) *
Very nice. Well you'll probably win the gloves if anyone was going to make a move they would have done so already. Good luck with the cap its tough to try to get a specific item off the shrine and its very easy to get duplicates that way. But Snowflake also gives you good items when you least expect it. I got two Peerless Radiants back to back one time.
I got somewhat lucky with the staff, but I'm terrfied at continuing any further with this FoS gig. It smells like a massive credits black hole.

Esp. after reading Nezu's FoS log.
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post Sep 9 2023, 16:40
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QUOTE(Hinoka @ Sep 9 2023, 05:34) *

Very nice. Well you'll probably win the gloves if anyone was going to make a move they would have done so already. Good luck with the cap its tough to try to get a specific item off the shrine and its very easy to get duplicates that way. But Snowflake also gives you good items when you least expect it. I got two Peerless Radiants back to back one time.


Thanks! Yeah, I didn't expect much competition, but I've been sniped before. Hopefully Snowflake is nice to me (or to someone else, who puts it up for auction). I'm one piece away from finishing both my radiant Surtr (need gloves) and Freyr (need cap) sets.

QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Sep 9 2023, 11:30) *

I got somewhat lucky with the staff, but I'm terrfied at continuing any further with this FoS gig. It smells like a massive credits black hole.

Esp. after reading Nezu's FoS log.


Well, you can send me your trophies instead, and I'll happily shrine them for you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 9 2023, 19:15
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i find the WTS cant buy good one-handed betwen250-300.nobody sell it,if most peole at least lv300 and more?
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post Sep 9 2023, 20:22
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QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Sep 9 2023, 04:30) *

It smells like a massive credits black hole.

Esp. after reading Nezu's FoS log.


You are correct its like a black hole for credits. Plus you'll get more trash equips than good ones. I'm at You have handed in 3,883,540,950 credits worth of trophies. I don't regret it at all thou I like supporting the site and gambling at the same time. I'll continue to do so for a long time. I want to hit 4bill by the end of the year but I want to take it slow for a few weeks. On the bright side I got Peerless gear for all the styles and a ton of cores. The only one I haven't upgraded yet is Niflheim. Well my favorite style is holy but I really like switching to the style of the day. Today I'll be playing with Mjolnir until Dawn hits than I'll switch to Holy. Tomorrow I'll switch to Dark and so on.
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post Sep 9 2023, 21:46
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i find the WTS cant buy good one-handed betwen250-300.nobody sell it,if most peole at least lv300 and more?

Currently the game is not active enough, and in particular with anyone providing services to specifically gather together low level equipment for sale.

Although there are some advantages these days as well. Searching through old auctions on the forum is one way to do it. With the long amount of time this game has existed, there are more old auctions to go through, and there is probably a lot of what you want by now, it's more a question of knowing how to search for it.

Another option is the isekai. Check the isekai forum for low level equipment for sale. Now is a good time because the isekai season is about to end, and those equipments can transfer to persistent when that happens (you will likely need to soulfuse them in the isekai to do so).
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post Sep 9 2023, 22:44
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 9 2023, 21:46) *

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Another option is the isekai. Check the isekai forum for low level equipment for sale. Now is a good time because the isekai season is about to end, and those equipments can transfer to persistent when that happens (you will likely need to soulfuse them in the isekai to do so).

sorry but we're really close to the end of season atm. Do you really think you'd have time to collect enough soul fragments to soulfuse anything, it you start now? And, most of the gear for sale is >300 level at this moment. It may be an option, but please be careful and do the math on how much credits and fragments you need.
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post Sep 9 2023, 23:43
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I am a new player!

My utmost condolences.
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post Sep 10 2023, 04:19
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QUOTE(BJNoni @ Sep 9 2023, 22:18) *

May I get some free credits?


Only if you do what our illustrious mod will not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 12 2023, 21:53
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The price of Hath dropped down to 2,351 today (the lowest amount I have ever seen)!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

The effect of readjustment on Hath Perks values was short lived. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Sep 13 2023, 00:21
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Supply & demand still determines the hath price.

If you increase the price of hath perks, you don't necessarily increase demand for hath. People are looking at whether each perk is worth its cost. If the cost goes up, fewer people want that perk.
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post Sep 13 2023, 00:43
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Why not make Isekai stats bump an (expansive) hath perk?
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post Sep 13 2023, 01:28
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Sep 12 2023, 19:21) *

Supply & demand still determines the hath price.

If you increase the price of hath perks, you don't necessarily increase demand for hath. People are looking at whether each perk is worth its cost. If the cost goes up, fewer people want that perk.


Ah, I know that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I just was very surprised that it happened so fast. I did not imagine that there would be such a large volume traded in just 24 hours (235,535 Hath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) ).
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post Sep 13 2023, 07:13
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Sep 12 2023, 22:21) *

Supply & demand still determines the hath price.

If you increase the price of hath perks, you don't necessarily increase demand for hath. People are looking at whether each perk is worth its cost. If the cost goes up, fewer people want that perk.


As a player who happened to join during this period, I can’t convince myself that I have to spend several times the price to unlock those perks.
On the other hand, in order to increase the demand for hath, I think we should increase the price of those high-level perks and add more advanced perks.
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post Sep 13 2023, 07:24
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Feels like DDX is right around the corner.
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post Sep 13 2023, 14:37
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QUOTE(sat1030 @ Sep 13 2023, 06:13) *

As a player who happened to join during this period, I can’t convince myself that I have to spend several times the price to unlock those perks.
On the other hand, in order to increase the demand for hath, I think we should increase the price of those high-level perks and add more advanced perks.


QUOTE(Hinoka @ Sep 13 2023, 06:24) *

Feels like DDX is right around the corner.


Why? The price of Hath is relatively arbitrary - it functions to slow user uptake of more performance-intense features, so unless Tenboro thinks there's too many perks being purchased, there's no reason to intervene in any way.
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post Sep 13 2023, 14:41
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Sep 13 2023, 05:37) *

Why? The price of Hath is relatively arbitrary - it functions to slow user uptake of more performance-intense features, so unless Tenboro thinks there's too many perks being purchased, there's no reason to intervene in any way.


Its just wishful thinking on my part. If we were to get new perks that's the one I would want. A very expensive one for a small increase in damage.

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post Sep 13 2023, 17:16
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Sep 13 2023, 12:37) *

Why? The price of Hath is relatively arbitrary - it functions to slow user uptake of more performance-intense features, so unless Tenboro thinks there's too many perks being purchased, there's no reason to intervene in any way.

Intervention? you flatter me.
Even if I write a hundred HV suggestions, I, a starless low-end trash, can’t hope that they will be accepted by Tenboro.

Concentrating on taking care of the website itself is definitely the most important thing.
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post Sep 13 2023, 17:33
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I'm kind of doubtful that account donation status really ends up anywhere high if at all on his list of things to account for when taking in suggestions. "Throw more money at it" "solutions" by people who don't contribute is one thing, but general suggestions can be good or bad regardless of who they came from. Could be a catgril, and I doubt a shit suggestion will suddenly have more weight for it.

The thing with hath, is probably a difference in perspective, whether it actually is a "problem".
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post Sep 13 2023, 18:30
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QUOTE(Shank @ Sep 13 2023, 17:33) *

The thing with hath, is probably a difference in perspective, whether it actually is a "problem".


This is often my opinion when I read about the value of credits and hath. It is true that the value of hath has depreciated, but I don't think it should be treated as bad news.

Some people may want hath to stay at a high price, but there is a very limited amount of people that should fit the definition of being interested in that: people who make a lot of hath and have no use for hath.

Obviously, there are some users prefer earning hath "only to sell it", because they consider that the value of hath in the market outperforms the use of the hath perks they didn't get.

In that sense, and similar to what was said in a different thread, the recent price hike of some perks could have reduced hath demand overall, reducing the value of hath by making some perks "less valuable than the credits they are worth", at the current hath price. I also think the recent change to how Innate Arcana works has hit the demand. It is not that obvious at all how many levels of IA are worth it.

These conversations seem to be forgetting that Hath will always tend to reach a price that resembles the value that you can get out of the perks, which is not at all objective and rational (some perks have subjective value, some perks are worth more credits).

The existance of players that don't have every perk (except FoS) and still wan't hath to keep a high value in the market reveals by itself that hath is overpriced. The value of hath will eventually find a place where it better resembles it's actual share of credit value.

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post Sep 13 2023, 18:36
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Sep 13 2023, 02:53) *

The price of Hath dropped down to 2,351 today (the lowest amount I have ever seen)!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

The effect of readjustment on Hath Perks values was short lived. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



NOW 2500 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
I feel sorry .
I late again.
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