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post Jun 21 2022, 12:54
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And of course I just had to start my first tower attempt with 0 items assigned. Bought items and all, but didn't assign any.
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post Jun 21 2022, 13:14
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QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ Jun 21 2022, 18:54) *

And of course I just had to start my first tower attempt with 0 items assigned. Bought items and all, but didn't assign any.


I did so too, both in last season and this season (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and this season I first got kill at low Tower, too bad that I will levelup slower
Also got kill in arena at early battle again, that happen in all 4 seasons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) seems I never learn not to push too hard at low level

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post Jun 21 2022, 16:49
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QUOTE(what_is_name @ Jun 21 2022, 19:14) *

I did so too, both in last season and this season (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and this season I first got kill at low Tower, too bad that I will levelup slower
Also got kill in arena at early battle again, that happen in all 4 seasons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) seems I never learn not to push too hard at low level


I just play season 1 on beginning of June so I remember (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I also set "hp threshold" to 0.5 last night and it helps a lot on <100lv when you don't have spark of life. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Exactly you may use focus to gain mana and cure yourself without any potion to clear tower 1

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A good start for day1, it's super tired to play both isekai and persisent, hope I could keep my spirit on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 21 2022, 16:57
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ Jun 21 2022, 14:49) *

Exactly you may use focus to gain mana and cure yourself without any potion to clear tower 1


You can do tower lvl 1 with no items, no mana usage, no equipment, at lvl 1. Usually the first thing I do each season. Just attack and defend each time your health goes down enough, defend also regens health and can be spammed. Though it is better to get potions for safety if you remember.
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post Jun 21 2022, 17:20
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QUOTE(Shank @ Jun 21 2022, 22:57) *

You can do tower lvl 1 with no items, no mana usage, no equipment, at lvl 1. Usually the first thing I do each season. Just attack and defend each time your health goes down enough, defend also regens health and can be spammed. Though it is better to get potions for safety if you remember.


I just curious what's highest difficulty should play on lv1 to lv100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Almost died on lv90 arena, I just manually cast spark on life when I just get lv100 during the battle and it burst on same turn😂
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post Jun 21 2022, 17:33
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ Jun 21 2022, 22:49) *

I just play season 1 on beginning of June so I remember (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I also set "hp threshold" to 0.5 last night and it helps a lot on <100lv when you don't have spark of life. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Exactly you may use focus to gain mana and cure yourself without any potion to clear tower 1



Well I should able to clear tower with no items, since I did so last season, but my hp threshold did set too low so got killed this season.


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Now confirm that at least you can encounter plv2250 monsters at level 161. Didn't noticed whether there are plv2250 at level 160, but seems the monster plv doesn't increase with every player level increase ( at level 135?~154? the monster plv are cap at 2003, and at level 155~159? they're cap at 2160) so I guess they should reach plv2250 at player level 160, with PFUDOR difficulty

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post Jun 21 2022, 18:42
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QUOTE(what_is_name @ Jun 21 2022, 23:33) *

Well I should able to clear tower with no items, since I did so last season, but my hp threshold did set too low so got killed this season.
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Now confirm that at least you can encounter plv2250 monsters at level 161. Didn't noticed whether there are plv2250 at level 160, but seems the monster plv doesn't increase with every player level increase ( at level 135?~154? the monster plv are cap at 2003, and at level 155~159? they're cap at 2160) so I guess they should reach plv2250 at player level 160, with PFUDOR difficulty

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exactly I died without restoratives on tower lv4 last season😓, so I'm much more careful this time.
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post Jun 22 2022, 00:01
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post Jun 22 2022, 01:20
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I sneezed and got me killed in the last few rounds of an IW. Feels cold man, really wanted those potencies.
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post Jun 22 2022, 02:01
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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Jun 22 2022, 07:20) *

I sneezed and got me killed in the last few rounds of an IW. Feels cold man, really wanted those potencies.


Just think it positive, maybe that round will only give you some undesired Potency bonus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 22 2022, 02:28
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For an hour or so before the dawn of a new day and some 5 floors later, I managed to place first in The Tower in Isekai mode. LOL

Wanted to post a screencap, but only links are accepted. Edit (Like this?) If too big or a forum violation, tell me and I'll delete.)

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post Jun 22 2022, 04:25
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ Jun 21 2022, 19:01) *

Just think it positive, maybe that round will only give you some undesired Potency bonus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Guess you're right, gotta keep it positive but you know how it goes, that round you happened to lose had a Peerless at the end or something (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


QUOTE(doomgaze @ Jun 21 2022, 19:28) *

For an hour or so before the dawn of a new day and some 5 floors later, I managed to place first in The Tower in Isekai mode. LOL

Wanted to post a screencap, but only links are accepted.

Oh, well... It ain't as if everybody else will not run past me in mere minutes.


You can attach images natively, just need to add as an attachment and then embed or add into the post and you're done without links or anything.
But feels nice doesn't it? Just be careful, it all starts with that little "oh I'm in first today" then you get first on the next day too so you keep going and before you notice you can't stop climbing the tower after 4 months
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post Jun 22 2022, 08:24
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I was banned for 1000 years, just unblocked, I cried to death
I haven't played the hentaiverse for two months. Niten Ichiryu is too difficult and too slow. Is there any kind-hearted person who can help the poor me? Thank you very much. My ID: C-Louise
By the way, how will LV200 develop in the future, thank you! ! !
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post Jun 22 2022, 13:37
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QUOTE(C-Louise @ Jun 22 2022, 08:24) *

I was banned for 1000 years, just unblocked, I cried to death
I haven't played the hentaiverse for two months. Niten Ichiryu is too difficult and too slow. Is there any kind-hearted person who can help the poor me? Thank you very much. My ID: C-Louise
By the way, how will LV200 develop in the future, thank you! ! !

no begging, please. Just look for 'free' in the WTS section.
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post Jun 22 2022, 18:03
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I keep missing every other attack, my hit chance isn't even that low. Guess just clicking on monsters won't cut it anymore.
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post Jun 22 2022, 18:47
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QUOTE(Wululululu-BZZT @ Jun 22 2022, 18:03) *

I keep missing every other attack, my hit chance isn't even that low. Guess just clicking on monsters won't cut it anymore.

just equip some gear, that will help a lot.
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post Jun 22 2022, 21:15
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Hello from a big n00b that recently started playing again recently

So I've been reading wiki and lurking reading various posts on the forum about equipment and what I should try to wear, mainly concerning Light Armour because I'm playing Dual-wielding Club+Wakizashi of the Nimble

And in the wiki it is written to replace my gear every ~30 levels

Yet I have a piece of Superior Shade Boots of Negation at level 63 which seems to me to be pretty much overall better (ATB, Hit Chance, Evade+Resist > Migitation) than very recently dropped Exquisite Leather Boots of Stoneskin which are at level 136, this is a 73 level spread at this point, with 1 tier of Quality difference

So with that in mind, am I right in just using those boots even at those higher levels even if they provide me less base stats stats, which already cost me 80-90k exp per +1 at 145-150 range ?

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post Jun 22 2022, 21:23
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QUOTE(Andziei @ Jun 22 2022, 21:15) *

Hello from a big n00b that recently started playing again recently

So I've been reading wiki and lurking reading various posts on the forum about equipment and what I should try to wear, mainly concerning Light Armour because I'm playing Dual-wielding Club+Wakizashi of the Nimble

And in the wiki it is written to replace my gear every ~30 levels

Yet I have a piece of Superior Shade Boots of Negation at level 63 which seems to me to be pretty much overall better (ATB, Hit Chance, Evade+Resist > Migitation) than very recently dropped Exquisite Leather Boots of Stoneskin which are at level 136, this is a 73 level spread at this point, with 1 tier of Quality difference

So with that in mind, am I right in just using those boots even at those higher levels even if they provide me less base stats stats, which already cost me 80-90k exp per +1 at 145-150 range ?

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well, just see what gives you the best damage, evade, pMIT. I think the leather would work a bit better, but it's probably a close call.

DW is a nice style, I'm playing that in isekai right now. It's possible to do IWBTH comfortly with only exquisites at your level, or even PFUDOR but that requires a lot of attention and even elixirs
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post Jun 23 2022, 01:17
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 22 2022, 19:23) *

well, just see what gives you the best damage, evade, pMIT. I think the leather would work a bit better, but it's probably a close call.

DW is a nice style, I'm playing that in isekai right now. It's possible to do IWBTH comfortly with only exquisites at your level, or even PFUDOR but that requires a lot of attention and even elixirs


Yeah I really like DW, I didn't start with it, instead I went 1h+ Shield then switched to Niten Ichiryu for some reason but around level 70-80 I was just constantly getting buttcheek slapped even while playing on Hell difficulty, and with addition to only 1 skill on high cost and long CD I just had to switch away

Which is a big sad frog sticker from me

When I switched to pure DW just to check it out I've finally understood why on the wiki it says "This style is playable, but not as good as DW or 1H. You will probably need to play at lower difficulty."

With DW I actually managed to win 1st and 2nd arena on PFUDOR but that difficulty is really all smiles, IWBTH for me isn't that much easier but at least after multiple previous tries and unlocking Heartseeker today I managed to beat up to 60lvl arena on it today, but that 100 base mana cost and my luck with not proccing Channeling before but right after casting it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Jun 23 2022, 08:59
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QUOTE(Andziei @ Jun 22 2022, 18:17) *

Yeah I really like DW, I didn't start with it, instead I went 1h+ Shield then switched to Niten Ichiryu for some reason but around level 70-80 I was just constantly getting buttcheek slapped even while playing on Hell difficulty, and with addition to only 1 skill on high cost and long CD I just had to switch away

Which is a big sad frog sticker from me

When I switched to pure DW just to check it out I've finally understood why on the wiki it says "This style is playable, but not as good as DW or 1H. You will probably need to play at lower difficulty."

With DW I actually managed to win 1st and 2nd arena on PFUDOR but that difficulty is really all smiles, IWBTH for me isn't that much easier but at least after multiple previous tries and unlocking Heartseeker today I managed to beat up to 60lvl arena on it today, but that 100 base mana cost and my luck with not proccing Channeling before but right after casting it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


In my experience, DW is very doable at high difficulties with a mix of Shade armor of the ShadowDancer + Shade of the Arcanist (ShadowDancer gives as much crit % as power armor of Balance and Arcanist gives Wisdom and Intelligence to offset burden. Complement that armor set with Ethereal Wakizashi of Balance and of the Nimble or dual nimble (you absolutely need high parry and high evade and resist). Invest ability points in DW, Light Armor, HP, SP, amd MP, healing items, Heartseeker (to make crits mote damaging) and leave spellcasting to only support, healing and status effects like Silence and Imperil which hit more than one target at high levels of ability point investment (Arcanist shade helps with magic hit %). Item world your weapons first and soulbound them once you get Butcher Lv 4 + Counterparry Lv 4 + Elec Strike for main hand and Swift Strike Lv 4 + Counterparry Lv 4 + Dark Strike for the offhand. If you can have each Shade piece to be of a different resistance, the better (Onyx, Jade, Cobalt, Amber, Ruby and Zircon) and item world them to have massive elemental protection against spells and skills that aren't void even if not forging them but if you can invest in upgrading them now and then, fine.
I doesn't have to immediately be like that, you can build to it at your own pace and check the equip store as sometimes good equipment for your build will show up that others think useless. Shrine as many trophies as you can towards your equip type and maybe you will luck out or at least get what I call "training equips" to substitute for your mains while you Item world them.
Abuse Frenzied Blows whenever possible or use Spirit Stance all the time. If you have or can invest in HATH, then you must absolutely invest in innate arcana so that your Protection, Haste, Shadow Veil and Spark of Life spells are active all the time (investing in mana pots to keep those active is loads easier than missing a recast click). The wind spikes Protection spell upgrade is the best as it lowers enemies accuracy (you want them to miss you + your evade).
Seems like a chore, and it is, but it works for DW's survivability. Ignore attack magic with such a build.
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