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In Persistant Arena get harder around 210?

As mage I was do any single round of Arena except Trio & Tree in ~15 minutes or less (I think) before level 210, now sometimes takes me ~35 minutes

Monsters seem to crit more often and/or attack faster? ( i know they now more power levels)

Or more likely I think I just need to upgrade my equips (half are exquisite half are superior (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Another thing: Riddles change & can now have more than 1 pony? (sometimes still 1 though?)

I have stamina drain, even though i never not get blessing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

You are likely now seeing monsters with a power level of over 400, which means the monsters are now using their most powerful attacks. You could try backing down your difficulty until you get better/upgraded equips.

The Riddlemaster change is due to the new Persistant patch.

You are likely now seeing monsters with a power level of over 400, which means the monsters are now using their most powerful attacks. You could try backing down your difficulty until you get better/upgraded equips.

The Riddlemaster change is due to the new Persistant patch.

got it, thanks. Feels little cheating though if drop it lower

Also just now only realize mana cost scales with level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

This post has been edited by monk31: Jan 27 2022, 10:14

got it, thanks. Feels little cheating though if drop it lower

Also just now only realize mana cost scales with level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

yes, mage becomes less viable in your level range... Most players switch to melee - 1h heavy around that level. You can continue playing mage, but at lower diff: less income, less legendary drops, less EXP...

Another thing: Riddles change & can now have more than 1 pony? (sometimes still 1 though?)

I have stamina drain, even though i never not get blessing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

There is always 3 ponies (except for one unfortunate image which is pinky pie riding pinkie pie, so you can have 4), but the ponies are not always different.

For example, you could have 3 ponies, all of which are rarity, and you'd answer with rarity
You could have 3 ponies, 2 of which were rarity, 1 is applejack, and you'd answer rarity and applejack
etc

Just select all the ponies you can reasonable identify. Blank answers and wrong answers both effect your riddle accuracy (which eventually affects your stamina), but wrong answers are worse than blank ones, so don't guess any you aren't reasonably sure is correct.

(IMG:[files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/zovc6o.jpg)

People are fighting over how many horses there are in the picture. Sound familiar?
[www.gannett-cdn.com] The original isn't even blurry.

I think 500 legendary cores + 500m credits is a reasonable price for a legendary armor to upgrade to a peerless one.

The fuck? That's several times more expensive than the most expensive peerlesses.
Definitely not.

The fact it will cost million credits to do this is already not okay, but five hundred millions? You're bonkers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

People are fighting over how many horses there are in the picture. Sound familiar?

I see skull there, right upper corner - skull of humanoid creature with huge brain. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

The fuck? That's several times more expensive than the most expensive peerlesses.
Definitely not.

The fact it will cost million credits to do this is already not okay, but five hundred millions? You're bonkers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The problem is that just credits and cores alone not enough to represent cost, for example for upgrading holy oak staff 500m is probably not bad, but for some axe of vampire it is absurdly expensive. As it was described, this system will not take into account market value of the item when defining its upgrade cost.

Originally suggested idea was to merge equipment with same prefix and suffix, so for upgrading oak staff you need oak staves(expensive) while upgrading stupid axe you need axes(dirt cheap). That's how it should be, to be useful for most players.

Originally suggested idea was to merge equipment with same prefix and suffix

The original suggested idea was from me.
Although someone else may also have made the same suggestion as me:

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But since the cores are not prefixed, it would be unfair to make the base cost depend on the most expensive of items.


Most peerlesses are trash and worth 50k.
The majority of the remaining barely will break the million.
Then some will be worth few millions.
Even less will be in the 30-100m range.
And to conclude the very few top tier ones being on sssss2 range of price.

A reasonable price to peerless any standard equipment would be definitely around 5 to 10m + cores.
Not less, because it would be too cheap.
But also not more, because it would just be ridiculous and just make the whole thing pointless.


And to anyone thinking making it "so cheap" would devalue certain peerlesses...
Definitely not, at most, the legendaries needed for the corresponding cores will become more costly.
And even if those peerlesses lost value...isn't about time it happens? Certain prices are just ridiculous.

The original suggested idea was from me.

Yes, it was 6 months ago so i forget details already, but the idea was to use item of same type. I mean you are right about this:

But since the cores are not prefixed, it would be unfair to make the base cost depend on the most expensive of items.

And to anyone thinking making it "so cheap" would devalue certain peerlesses...
Definitely not, at most, the legendaries needed for the corresponding cores will become more costly.
And even if those peerlesses lost value...isn't about time it happens? Certain prices are just ridiculous.

I don't necessarily agree with the rest of what you said, but yeah, I don't think it would be outrageous if the various aspects of the game were completable in a human lifetime by an average person who wants to stick to it for a while.

500m sounds like it's a lot higher than what Tenboro suggested and I personally don't think it's going to be significantly higher than ~150m for the worst case scenario, but those costs haven't been decided yet. Note that an equipment that already had high base rolls would cost less.

The core costs are also undecided and will probably be tuned once we've had time to see some numbers.

I'd like to note that the number of cores required per equipment is relative to the number of stats on it, and whether it's a rare-type (phase, shade, power). Melee weapons have fewer base stats on them so they're going to be significantly cheaper to upgrade than most armor slots.

I don't know anything about whether the flat credit cost will be multiplied for rare-types either.

In general, the average case will be less bad than people fear, but probably more than most would hope to pay. And that's probably fine, equipment completion is still a long term goal. (I'd like to see a completion log, maybe, to show which equipment types the player has obtained through non-trade generation. Even if it was cheap, it'd still give the extremists something long-term and expensive to work on beyond their character goals. But maybe that's just going full circle and moving the goalposts again.)

100m+ is more bad than people fear, I would say.

But we were indeed quoted 100m (+cores) so if that is true then my peerless poking stick was barely still worth it to buy. But what's really going to matter is how much it costs to upgrade a top legendary with high PXP0, which could be much less?

* I can't write my thoughts in detail because my English is not good.

The fuck? That's several times more expensive than the most expensive peerlesses.
Definitely not.

The fact it will cost million credits to do this is already not okay, but five hundred millions? You're bonkers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Up to now, the highest price for an item sold at auction is 700m, and dozens of people are spending more than 200m without any hesitation.

100m per any Peerless equipment...?
In my opinion, the most valuable thing ('Peerless' in the game) should be the rarest.

The problem is that just credits and cores alone not enough to represent cost, for example for upgrading holy oak staff 500m is probably not bad, but for some axe of vampire it is absurdly expensive. As it was described, this system will not take into account market value of the item when defining its upgrade cost.

I totally agree with this.

I'd like to note that the number of cores required per equipment is relative to the number of stats on it, and whether it's a rare-type (phase, shade, power).
I don't know anything about whether the flat credit cost will be multiplied for rare-types either.

I wonder how much it would cost to upgrade a legendary shade of arcanist. (and lhoh)

Even if it was cheap, it'd still give the extremists something long-term and expensive to work on beyond their character goals. But maybe that's just going full circle and moving the goalposts again.

Good.

It's not pleasant to see my hard-earned things devalue, but it's acceptable.
As I wrote above, one of my concern to the new equipment mechanics is that the most valuable things become too common.
However, if new rarer items or somethings are added, it will be a solution. (regardless of its effectiveness)

This post has been edited by sssss2: Jan 29 2022, 13:14

[Clo32] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Surtr (328, IW 10, Fire EDB 90%) (seller: cornandbeans. Start: 1m) kamio11 25m #155; winning for 3.3h / 32.7h; +4.8%

So...Here comes the legendary hot pants which almost beat down it's ATH auction record

People are so fascinated with this tiny little pants

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/GJAOQXo.jpg)

[Clo32] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Surtr (328, IW 10, Fire EDB 90%) (seller: cornandbeans. Start: 1m) kamio11 25m #155; winning for 3.3h / 32.7h; +4.8%

So...Here comes the legendary hot pants which almost beat down it's ATH auction record

People are so fascinated with this tiny little pants

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/GJAOQXo.jpg)

To be honest, I'm not even going to wear those as they are. I'm just grabbing equips that I'll turn into peerless equips whenever that actually happens. (And if it doesn't happen, it's not like they're that expensive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

To be honest, I'm not even going to wear those as they are. I'm just grabbing equips that I'll turn into peerless equips whenever that actually happens. (And if it doesn't happen, it's not like they're that expensive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

I'm ready to sell you all my Legendary Shitty Weapons of Uselessness for just a couple millions each, that you'll be able to turn to Glorious Terminal Destructors when the time comes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I personally don't think it's going to be significantly higher than ~150m for the worst case scenario

Assuming it would be 150m, I would assume it would be to upgrade a minimum ranged legendary to peerless with the highest number of stats.

Still, that means a rapier with decent stats would probably cost above 50m to "peerlessize"
That is quite above the value. (only a few elements may fetch for that much, and it still depends on when you sell it and how many people want it)

Don't even get me started on the shortsword ya'll love so much.
Those would cost the same, at that point you just buy the peerless.
(small note: and it may not be possible atm because it's not exactly certain that one will be for sale)


And the point about "if peerlesses can be upgraded, upgrading legendaries is worthless" stays.
At that point the cost will be just stupid.

Up to now, the highest price for an item sold at auction is 700m, and dozens of people are spending more than 200m without any hesitation.

That's just madness.
Prices are very often dictated by the heat of the moment.

The heat of the moment definitely isn't a meter to define a fixed cost that will apply to any item and not just the expensive ones.

Also keep in mind that a lot of items lost value with time. It's just normal.
More time the game is online, more items in circulation, better gear everyone has, the less gear everyone has will be valued.
The prices will eventually fall for everything.
At one point the barons paying 500m will have a full set and will just have no need to spend those millions anymore.
At that point those peerlesses may end costing way less, since the non barons are unlikely to buy them for that much.

100m per any Peerless equipment...?

Most peerlesses aren't even worth 1m
A lot of peerlesses that are "well wanted" by people cost between 10 and 50m (rapiers, power armors, elemental charged/radiant, etc).
Why would anyone ever consider spending 100m to make one.

And again, "just buy the peerless" is a solution in case the core cost is prohibitive but...is the peerless you want even on sale? Peerlesses may not be super uncommon after years but they are still rare, and most aren't for sale for obvious reasons.

This post has been edited by Juggernaut Santa: Jan 29 2022, 21:55

There is the added value of: You will get the exact peerless you want with no gambling whatsoever, since you are upgrading what you want to begin with. You can't always gaurantee a phoh is gonna appear in auction often if ever, but you can find lhoh's far more easily

Is phazon high drop chance early isekai tower?

Or I just get lucky get phazon when I level 30, but unlucky that I no star so I cant sell. grrrrrr (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

There's increased drops during the first week which might have helped. It should have the same drop chance as the other rare materials, as far as I know.

There's increased drops during the first week which might have helped. It should have the same drop chance as the other rare materials, as far as I know.

I wish i got it in persistent then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Now I'm just an isekai lvl 30 with a phazon I have no use for anytime soon & that I can't trade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)