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post Jan 26 2022, 10:10
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Snom's Legendary Core's prices prediction:
Legendary Weapon Core is about 10k
Legendary Staff Core is around 100k (Mages are witchers richers)
Legendary Armor Core is about 40k-50k (to balance between cloth/phase and others)

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post Jan 26 2022, 10:28
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Since there is a sufficient supply of legendary equipment (except staff), the core price will continue to fall. Some people have thousands of cores already.

I think 500 legendary cores + 500m credits is a reasonable price for a legendary armor to upgrade to a peerless one.
Weapons and staves are more important than armors, so they should be more expensive.
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post Jan 26 2022, 10:30
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ Jan 26 2022, 09:10) *

Snom's Legendary Core's prices prediction:
Legendary Weapon Core is about 10k
Legendary Staff Core is around 100k (Mages are witchers richers)
Legendary Armor Core is about 40k-50k (to balance between cloth/phase and others)

it really depends on the credit costs of upgrading. If it takes me 100m to upgrade my near-peerless legendary staff to peerless, and it takes me 1 core per stat to do so, then I only need 15 cores for that. And then I'm done with the legenday staff cores for ever. Not gonna do that twice when it costs 100m!
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post Jan 26 2022, 11:17
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Since Shade gives 5 armor cores, I'm wondering if people will start scouring the Bazaar for cheap-ish Legendary Shade and start snapping them solely for the salvaged legendary armor cores.

And least that's what I'm tempted to do.


EDIT: I've noticed piyin is buying most of the cheap sub-100k Legendaries in WTS. He clearly has a similar idea to me which is actually irritating because a wholesale buyout in WTS could affect the cheap Legendaries market for lower-level players.

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post Jan 26 2022, 12:00
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QUOTE(SivSilly @ Jan 26 2022, 10:17) *

Since Shade gives 5 armor cores, I'm wondering if people will start scouring the Bazaar for cheap-ish Legendary Shade and start snapping them solely for the salvaged legendary armor cores.

And least that's what I'm tempted to do.

I would advise against that - highly speculative and quite expensive
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post Jan 26 2022, 17:44
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QUOTE(SivSilly @ Jan 26 2022, 09:17) *

Since Shade gives 5 armor cores, I'm wondering if people will start scouring the Bazaar for cheap-ish Legendary Shade and start snapping them solely for the salvaged legendary armor cores.


There is plenty of junk power of protection/warding, and prefix-less phase armour for about same price as shade. At least it was last months. I dont think it is a problem.

Most important is a staff cores because you could make Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall out of junk.


Also people should not forget that peerless will be upgradable too, so new goal would be not legendary with 100% stats(which technically is a plain peerless), but peerless with as much upgrades as you can afford - and this would be very expensive.
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post Jan 26 2022, 18:45
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 25 2022, 20:45) *

People who hoarded up legendary and peerless trash might suddenly become ultra rich after the patches.


If so, Basara will be way happier with his drops (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Anyway, we already now the minimum reasonable price : it must be around 3k, otherwise you may as well sell it to Bazaar.

What we cannot (still) know is the max reasonable proce; we will know it when we will know how many cores and credits are needed to fully enhance a Peerless with cores (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jan 26 2022, 19:12
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jan 26 2022, 13:45) *

If so, Basara will be way happier with his drops (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But unfortunately I already got rid of most of my equipment, especially in 2019 and 2020. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

The way now is to continue accumulating garbage (with my "luck" that will be easy). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 26 2022, 19:13
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jan 26 2022, 16:45) *

What we cannot (still) know is the max reasonable proce; we will know it when we will know how many cores and credits are needed to fully enhance a Peerless with cores :ph34r:

If you can repeatedly salvage and buy back from the bazaar for cores, then the upper limit would be the buy back price/number of cores. Which is around 70k I think.
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post Jan 26 2022, 19:16
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QUOTE(namae56709 @ Jan 26 2022, 14:13) *

If you can repeatedly salvage and buy back from the bazaar for cores, then the upper limit would be the buy back price/number of cores. Which is around 70k I think.


That's not possible. You can only do this operation once. When you make salvage for the second time in the same equipment, nothing is returned, not even the High-Grade material.

PS: I tried to do this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 26 2022, 19:19
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jan 26 2022, 17:16) *

That's not possible. You can only do this operation once. When you make salvage for the second time in the same equipment, nothing is returned, not even the High-Grade material.

PS: I tried to do this. :heh:

Good to know. Thanks.
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post Jan 26 2022, 20:55
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QUOTE(SivSilly) *
I've noticed piyin is buying most of the cheap sub-100k Legendaries in WTS. He clearly has a similar idea to me which is actually irritating because a wholesale buyout in WTS could affect the cheap Legendaries market for lower-level players.

Maybe even 50k is too much for just one legendary core, but I could be wrong. Consider that Scremaz and others often bought crap peerless for 50k each. Although I do think that such activity could now possibly cause said people to become ultra rich. Suppose any crap peerless becomes worth 500k and Scremaz filled his inventory with them by now, he would suddenly have earned 500m.

So on second thought, maybe 50k is a decent speculative value for a legendary core...but probably still not recommended to assume such. I think most legendaries sell in bazaar for around 4k and buy in bazaar for 15k (rare equipment for 30k). So probably a correct speculative value for a legendary core is 15k to 50k. I guess it should be higher than High-Grade Cotton.

I was going to say that if piyin only buys out 50k to 100k Legendaries, at least his actions have a limit to their effect, as low-level players can still purchase Legendaries for 100k or more. But then I remembered how poor I was when I was low level, and even 100k is too much for me, plus the problem would be that the supply choice would become gone, so I guess it could cause some trouble. But it's not piyin's fault, it's the game's fault (or no one's fault).
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post Jan 26 2022, 21:24
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There have been other times where people made unexpectedly high gains out of nowhere, and I don't think it destabilized the economy noticeably. See SPoison's PTWD auction?

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 26 2022, 18:55) *

I was going to say that if piyin only buys out 50k to 100k Legendaries, at least his actions have a limit to their effect, as low-level players can still purchase Legendaries for 100k or more. But then I remembered how poor I was when I was low level, and even 100k is too much for me, plus the problem would be that the supply choice would become gone, so I guess it could cause some trouble. But it's not piyin's fault, it's the game's fault (or no one's fault).


On the contrary, I actually remember piyin's shop being useful to me when I was lower level because he was the only person who bothered keeping any considerable stock of those legendaries. It's a pain in the ass to run a shop long-term, especially for a large amount of equipments to track, and there's a good chance the majority of them won't sell at all because there aren't really enough newbies to buy them all - so he's taking on the risk when he buys them at auction. A lot of those 50k ones would have gone unsold. When I buy from WTS shops, I consider the convenience of the stock being there persistently as part of what I'm buying.

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post Jan 26 2022, 21:51
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I also think it's totally OK. It's the Market, both piyin and low-Level Players are Part of it.
For low-Level Players there are various Ways to get helped today (Thanks to all those kind Players who are willing to help). If a low-Level Player is not sure about something, he can ask and we're glad to give him Advice and Answer.
But I don't think low-Level Player should have any Privilege in the Market. If piyin pays more Time, Energy and Credits for those Legendary Equipments, he should get more. One CAN still sell or gift usable Legendary Equipments to low-Level Players, but it isn't a MUST.
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post Jan 26 2022, 22:14
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jan 26 2022, 11:51) *

I also think it's totally OK. It's the Market, both piyin and low-Level Players are Part of it.
For low-Level Players there are various Ways to get helped today (Thanks to all those kind Players who are willing to help). If a low-Level Player is not sure about something, he can ask and we're glad to give him Advice and Answer.
But I don't think low-Level Player should have any Privilege in the Market. If piyin pays more Time, Energy and Credits for those Legendary Equipments, he should get more. One CAN still sell or gift usable Legendary Equipments to low-Level Players, but it isn't a MUST.



Fuck them newbies.

But honestly, isekai has showed me newbies are spoiled, I am surviving with magnificents and they can too!
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post Jan 26 2022, 22:20
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Fuck them newbies.

But honestly, isekai has showed me newbies are spoiled, I am surviving with magnificents and they can too!


Yes they can, if they're willing to learn and to ask.
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post Jan 26 2022, 22:27
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Surviving in exquisites here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Though that may be limited to 1h
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post Jan 27 2022, 04:32
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QUOTE(Shank @ Jan 26 2022, 21:27) *

Surviving in exquisites here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Though that may be limited to 1h


Surviving is nice. But living in comfort with some occasional luxury is so much better !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 27 2022, 04:34
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It's not that bad, arenas are even comfortable. I did get my first tower death on floor 45 though, that one's starting to get painful
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post Jan 27 2022, 09:00
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In Persistant Arena get harder around 210?

As mage I was do any single round of Arena except Trio & Tree in ~15 minutes or less (I think) before level 210, now sometimes takes me ~35 minutes

Monsters seem to crit more often and/or attack faster? ( i know they now more power levels)

Or more likely I think I just need to upgrade my equips (half are exquisite half are superior (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Another thing: Riddles change & can now have more than 1 pony? (sometimes still 1 though?)

I have stamina drain, even though i never not get blessing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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