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Happy new year everyone

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From what I observe, you hate vtuber. Is it because they're e-thot with extra layer?

From what I observe, you hate vtuber. Is it because they're e-thot with extra layer?

Crudely put, yes. Though "hate" is quite an understatement. Which is a bit ironic since I do listen to some music that is produced by vtubers.

Thank you very much, Necromusume.

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So this is what the rest of me looks like. Artist is スカイ and seems to possibly be a disciple of Kantoku. I saw another picture of the Skirt there, too. Just the skirt, nothing else.

This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Jan 4 2022, 00:54

I feel a little bad, maybe I should not make fun of the vtuber. I mean, if that were the original and only version of Orange in the world, I would still put that on my hard drive. Although I would feel the same regret as with Mirakuru-mika-run-run which is the only song in the Haruhi series I truly like.

Dumping a few of the vtuber songs I check out here. One useful thing about looking at this giant vtuber song list is that it gives me an idea of how (in)complete my knowledge of Japanese music is. I think I recognize like 2% of these song titles. Anyone much better than me?

Quite good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-mgXYbfyf8 (never watched this but it's Dear With You, why does her eyebrow twitch like that)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M45dz5eRq8 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD7aFmLMvLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZt08u8pfys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8xRpBRtxs (never heard this before, clicked because of title Lemon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6pqU7mO6kY (the horrible background music quality is unfortunate)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbSezLioaTc&t=4590 (for Snom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlS5TmnFZyA&t=600 (need to improve the music quality)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OdwkyxmgkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrFxzKTXuz4 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzjw_Cibgb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA4syDBjfMM (sometimes I don't know the names of songs I know, lucky I checked this)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LGnA_4_Zek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JvcoGSyzVc




Not bad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQp9VbUFwXY (this person very cute)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMtCJSSnMrg (I hear canon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoYms1LesvE (original https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqps4anhz0Q First time I heard this, I like it. Is this what Hatsune Miku normally sounds like?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cmo3_qqMtM (she must be old to know this song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAXavTUBOvI / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BNg7FsWwhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oySsHkr6aE (how did she sing this so well? maybe a different person under the voice changer)



Throw tomato (not for Ass Spanker):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdQm4ajNpQ4&t=360 (top quality hololive vtuber, but not great singer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rsle5TrK8k (hard to judge if I don't know the song well)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0NzWeTss0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgi3R7Bxzno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG6-dkvgazY (most attractive vtuber, I'm noticing the new ones are higher quality)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3SJwZ1xvSc (this is a guy using voice changer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLjNjPoDYw (just checking if she can sing a more normal song, nope)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afQtxyBbrJA (even though I've not heard the original Lemon I know it doesn't sound like this)




Death bomb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUTUZAgr5UE (Ass Spanker surely kill himself if he sees this, we have to hold him back and save his life)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZyV8ZSgKPw (Why is a guy being a girl vtuber and singing? This is gross)


I'm fairly impressed. May update periodically. I would rather watch these a jillion times more than those singing competitions on TV here in america. Replace them all with vtubers, at least it would improve the looks.

I don't understand how the vtubers control their avatars. I have heard (recently, of course) that it is generally kept secret. Some of these look, act, and behave quite naturally. Like as good as in anime. Others, like the very first vtuber song I accidentally found, shocked and scared the crap out of me because the eyes kept rolling around and getting bigger and smaller for no reason...

I had to look up what is an e-thot. It looks like you can chat with these vtubers, so they are sort of like pretend real anime girls. I also had to look up simp. If simps annoy you, just teach me how to become a vtuber with that girl above. I'll crush their dreams when I tell them I'm ossan.

This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Feb 16 2022, 15:58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-mgXYbfyf8 (never watched this but it's Dear With You, why does her eyebrow twitch like that)

It's you. Jesus. With you -kizuna- is the version with all the Higurashi cast, which is my favorite version, despite being extremely badly mixed, arguably the worst one in all the you versions. Dear you are the 4 versions for the 4 girls (though not sung by any of them).

(original https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqps4anhz0Q First time I heard this, I like it. Is this what Hatsune Miku normally sounds like?)

Yes, Miku has always had this sound, unless the only Miku you listened to was Mitchie-M's Miku. Dude's got some godlike level of tuning.

I would rather watch these a jillion times more than those singing competitions on TV here in america. Replace them all with vtubers, at least it would improve the looks.

Just listen to originals bruh. Though I'm not a big consumer of western pop music, much less US singing competitions, I have had my fair share of goosebumps from some of the performances. The skills are real.

I don't understand how the vtubers control their avatars. I have heard (recently, of course) that it is generally kept secret. Some of these look, act, and behave quite naturally. Like as good as in anime. Others, like the very first vtuber song I accidentally found, shocked and scared the crap out of me because the eyes kept rolling around and getting bigger and smaller for no reason...

There are some apps for these I think. Not exactly informed about the technology, neither do I want to spend time looking into it. If it looks shitty, probably because they didn't put in enough efforts to make it look good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMtCJSSnMrg (I hear canon)

Probably IV V vi iii in C major. Canon is I V vi iii.

I'll crush their dreams when I tell them I'm ossan.

Apparently it's somewhat like a taboo thing in vtuber simps community? Or at least I notice that from people who I know that follow vtubers. If there are rumors or you know some vtubers with female avatars but turn out to be dudes using voice changers, you don't point that out and let them live their dream.

Dumping a few of the vtuber songs I check out here. One useful thing about looking at this giant vtuber song list is that it gives me an idea of how (in)complete my knowledge of Japanese music is. I think I recognize like 2% of these song titles. Anyone much better than me?

Kano (鹿乃) is really good. Have been following since her first days of being utaite. She's got over a decade of experience by now.
I know about half the songs. Most of these are vocaloid music which I kinda grew out of. I don't think I know more than 100 vocaloid songs in the last 5 years? Used to know a lot before 2015. No longer has the edgy teenage blood to enjoy that kind of music you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZyV8ZSgKPw (Why is a guy being a girl vtuber and singing? This is gross)

Jesus fuck it's actually beatmario. Some dude composers I know have girl vtuber avatar. It's a meme so I don't care much. Like this motherfucker has a wife and still does this shit. He's actually really good at Arcaea. Like, extremely good, world ranker good. I know some producers can play music games, but being this good? Rare.

This post has been edited by Ass Spanker: Jan 3 2022, 13:29

I know I'm using terrible computer monitor speakers here, and the sound system on my other computer i outdated and has serious problems, but I'm relatively big on sound quality. (I need a few weeks to listen to xi albums and study the songs, but hopefully I can mix them in decent quality and have software that can do it).

It is unlikely I would download youtube videos to my music PC (is it even possible) unless something is super awesome and there is no other source. I need the best quality possible, preferrably lossless. I'm just checking these vtuber songs for laughs. I can't properly hear music on this computer that I use here.

Don't worry, most of the songs I am checking are ones that I already know/have or recognize the name somehow, or that was posted by others here and I already listened to the original versions. When I heard senbonzakura vtuber, I shut it off and went to go find out what it was and listen to the original first.

Wait, holy...is that a guy using a voice changer? The ones I heard before were not convincing at all. This sounds a bit weird and crackly but would fool me. Is it easy for us to voice change this well? Maybe he has a naturally girly voice that helps him. (I may not need a voice changer, but if I did, probably just the tiniest minimal tweak would work for me. If I actually made the slightest effort to talk like a girl that might work too; I've never tried).

People who want to imagine my natural voice as female, tend not to have any problem. I get into more trouble with suspicious folks who accuse me of using voice changers and want to imagine me as male (which I am, of course).

This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Jan 3 2022, 14:20

Wait, holy...is that a guy using a voice changer? The ones I heard before were not convincing at all. This sounds a bit weird and crackly but would fool me. Is it easy for us to voice change this well? Maybe he has a naturally girly voice that helps him. (I may not need a voice changer, but if I did, probably just the tiniest minimal tweak would work for me. If I actually made the slightest effort to talk like a girl that might work too; I've never tried).

Nah his natural voice is your usual male voice, as heard from his playing game video.

I know I'm using terrible computer monitor speakers here, and the sound system on my other computer i outdated and has serious problems, but I'm relatively big on sound quality. (I need a few weeks to listen to xi albums and study the songs, but hopefully I can mix them in decent quality and have software that can do it).

Audacity is free and quite ok for basic usage. If you want to be a bit more professional, REAPER. It's not free but the trial period is amazingly long. I think you can still use it for free as long as you don't make money from it. I recommend Ableton or Logic if possible, though they are mighty expensive. I have a free copy of Ableton Live when I bought my keyboard though.

It is unlikely I would download youtube videos to my music PC (is it even possible) unless something is super awesome and there is no other source. I need the best quality possible, preferrably lossless. I'm just checking these vtuber songs for laughs. I can't properly hear music on this computer that I use here.

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Okay i'll throw it in here I'm Lvl 193 now and doing... random things i assume if I have extended questions like i'm 2HMace/Leather, what should a skill rotation look like or should i slowly start respec into mage or is my ability rotation any good etc. etc.

where should I ask those questions? should I ask on the "Ask the Experts" Post or rather open one for my char and all my mistakes?

Ask the experts is best

There's a lot of experts in the hv discord as well if you prefer that https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=231752

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This post has been edited by OnceForAll: Jan 3 2022, 21:57

Thanks! Original post fixed. (That girl looks more pervy than the cute skirt illustration suggestions. Which is just perfect).

Audacity is exactly what I was going to try first. I needed and downloaded it a year ago. Before then, I used even weaker software. If it can't do the tempo (and/or pitch) transform with adequate quality (or at all, as this is a very difficult mathematical process) then I likely have to search for something better.

Speaking of keyboards, another cheat I didn't do in your chords contest is use a piano or instrument to check notes. That may have removed some of my false submissions (if any root chord note is wrong) and saved me fifty hours of (failed) chord checking. I confess I have a piano here and even tried to open it, but it is buried in unopened boxes of anime toys.

(After thirty years of inactivity, I also forgot how to read sheet music and play any musical instrument, anyway).

There is a valuable skill you have: being able to hear a note and identify what it is, i.e. transcribe music. In my experience this ability is extremely rare. I don't know if it is acquired naturally or through training. I never had this ability no matter how much music I played or heard. Checking online now, it seems some progress has been made in [en.wikipedia.org] this area but [www.seventhstring.com] transcription software is still imperfect.

One thing I've always found odd though, is why almost no one can hear a song and instantly play it back on a musical instrument (you probably can) while almost everyone can hear a song and just sing it back correctly? (Although the singing might be terrible.)

What is the difference between Peerless Demonic Rapier of Slaughter and Peerless Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter?

I thought Ming83974 bought back his own peerless hallowed rapier in the bargain sale, but I remembered wrong. It was Grandmasters who originally sold it. What happened to his picture? I forgot what it used to look like, but probably it was a girl like most of us? Now it's a weird beard face, did our ossan talk scare him?

The arctic peerless rapier is now perfectly IW'ed and max forged. It's with the person who will use and deserves it most. I'm glad I didn't wake up to bid on it.

This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Jan 4 2022, 02:04

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Audacity is exactly what I was going to try first. I needed and downloaded it a year ago. Before then, I used even weaker software. If it can't do the tempo (and/or pitch) transform with adequate quality (or at all, as this is a very difficult mathematical process) then I likely have to search for something better.

No it's not difficult at all what? You just pick the start and destination tempos/pitches in Audacity and it stretches the audio for you.

There is a valuable skill you have: being able to hear a note and identify what it is, i.e. transcribe music. In my experience this ability is extremely rare. I don't know if it is acquired naturally or through training. I never had this ability no matter how much music I played or heard.

No, I have shit pitch detection. Zero perfect pitch, a bit relative pitch. Throw me an octave and I wouldn't know it's one without touching my pressy pokey musical instrument.
Perfect pitch is learnable, albeit extremely difficult. But relative pitch is 100% a learnable skill. Even on very limited training, I have relative pitch to some degree.

One thing I've always found odd though, is why almost no one can hear a song and instantly play it back on a musical instrument (you probably can) while almost everyone can hear a song and just sing it back correctly? (Although the singing might be terrible.)

Nah I can't even play with a music sheet. My playing is around the same level as a child's after 2 months of training. I'm more on the theory and enjoying train, not making.
Playing by ear after a single listen is difficult (duh), because of the skills required. Now, the big difference would be when you press a key wrong, it's wrong and even if you find the right key (which requires muscle memory and relative pitch) after that, it will be awkward. With your voice, it's a spectrum thing rather than a quantized thing like piano keys, and you can very quickly change your pitch to match the music in your memory. Furthermore, you have been using your voice as long as you have been alive (unless you suffer from some disease), so your degree of control over your voice will be a lot higher than over a piano (unless you are mute and the piano is your voice).

I meant that the mathematical formula for changing tempo (independent of pitch) is very difficult. As in, it takes a very smart person(s) to write the computer program that does that for you. Most likely the authors of Audacity did not code that part themselves but it's a plugin or something that they borrowed or read up on how to do it.

It's such a difficult process that even when it is done, the quality of output audio is something that will always be scrutinized (the program I linked in the last post threw up a sample for quality judgment). That's why traditionally, software or players to change tempo used to force the pitch to change with it: that's a completely different process and way easier to perform mathematically.

This process is also related to voice changing software, mathematically and theoretically speaking. So it's not trivially easy for the programmer to create that software. By now I guess the technology is getting scary good at it, judging by that voice changer vtuber guy.

No, I have shit pitch detection. Zero perfect pitch, a bit relative pitch. Throw me an octave and I wouldn't know it's one without touching my pressy pokey musical instrument.

Nah I can't even play with a music sheet. My playing is around the same level as a child's after 2 months of training. I'm more on the theory and enjoying train, not making.
Playing by ear after a single listen is difficult (duh), because of the skills required. Now, the big difference would be when you press a key wrong, it's wrong and even if you find the right key (which requires muscle memory and relative pitch) after that, it will be awkward. With your voice, it's a spectrum thing rather than a quantized thing like piano keys, and you can very quickly change your pitch to match the music in your memory. Furthermore, you have been using your voice as long as you have been alive (unless you suffer from some disease)

I vaguely recall there might be trick(s) to being able to hear octaves, but I can't remember what they were.

[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_pitch
[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_pitch

Skimmed these just now, they were interesting reads for me. The internet did not exist when I used to play musical instruments. While I was sort of a poor player, I was always told I had perfect pitch (the meaning was never made clear to me). As a result, instructors regularly gave me other people's violins and asked me to tune them (only takes a few seconds).

I think my problem is that I have zero relative pitch, like regular laymen. I never internalized what the intervals between notes are. I don't understand the intricacies of music theory, and I have trouble distinguishing how much a semitone difference is. If I hear a tune, I cannot quickly play it back by ear.

One guy I knew with weak playing skill could play anything back by ear flawlessly, while the most skilled players weren't much better at it than me. Pretty neat comparison.

I took some short internet quizzes just now to see if I have perfect pitch, expecting to fail. Results were coming back that I am close. Like they play the standard concert octave A and ask me, is this in tune? That's my specialty, so I get it right (even though it's been 30 years since I heard a pitchfork A). I luck out and do okay on some other notes, too. Then they ask me to name chords and song keys and I get all those wrong.

Your answers about singing -- that you fix any mistakes by quickly changing, etc -- are what I've often heard as well. They are definitely correct but I never could believe that's the whole explanation, so I keep wondering.

Not singing. Vtuber playing Sausage Legends against Chinporon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAgZZ2kqRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8_8Wp2HR_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0NzWeTss0w

Hey. That last Vtuber girl's voice is too metallic and tinny sounding. It echoes too. I say voice changer.

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I vaguely recall there might be trick(s) to being able to hear octaves, but I can't remember what they were.

[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_pitch
[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_pitch

Skimmed these just now, they were interesting reads for me. The internet did not exist when I used to play musical instruments. While I was sort of a poor player, I was always told I had perfect pitch (the meaning was never made clear to me). As a result, instructors regularly gave me other people's violins and asked me to tune them (only takes a few seconds).

I think my problem is that I have zero relative pitch, like regular laymen. I never internalized what the intervals between notes are. I don't understand the intricacies of music theory, and I have trouble distinguishing how much a semitone difference is. If I hear a tune, I cannot quickly play it back by ear.

Your answers about singing -- that you fix any mistakes by quickly changing, etc -- are what I've often heard as well. They are definitely correct but I never could believe that's the whole explanation, so I keep wondering.

Rick Beato asserts that perfect pitch can't be learned by adults, it's something you either learn as a child, or else it's just very hard practice and relative pitch once you're older to emulate something like it.

Relative pitch is something you might be underestimating; Jacob Collier does a great demonstration of how multiple singers, even without training, can easily find the right pitch by harmonizing with those around them.

For what it's worth, if you're singing along with a backing track, you'll find it easier to harmonize; but if you're singing without any accompaniment... it's probably not on pitch, just that your relative pitch is good enough to keep the intervals correct even if you're in the wrong key, so the tune sounds right. Try singing something from memory, recording it, and then playing it alongside the track itself and seeing how close you were...

(Although if you have perfect pitch - or close enough to it that you can find the right starting note - then these two skills work in harmony.)

As far as my own sense of pitch goes... I can tell when a guitar's out of tune by playing any (common) chord, but I can't always identify which string it is, letalone whether it's too flat or too sharp. I can find harmonies when I'm singing, but often I can't keep tune with the original song. Just limitations of my voice, though, I think.

I watched some of that video, it was pretty funny.

I think the only thing you need to be able to perfectly play by ear and/or quickly transcribe music is flawless relative pitch. That's what important (and I've got zero of that). It's very difficult to learn, I feel. But seems like there are methods to learn it.

I say perfect or absolute pitch is a different ability, or can be a bonus on top of relative pitch. The potential for that is probably what I might have been born with. I can only identify/make one note, 440 Hz concert A, but I can probably do it being only a few Hz off. Needed no reference even after 30 years.

The brief tests I took online were like Rick Beatos challenge, except automated and harder. The A tuning test was too easy. Not a rigorous testing, but they wrote I passed (even though I didn't know how to identify chords or keys).

The singing video reminds me of how orchestras tune their string instruments. It's how violins are supposed to be tuned. That's why you always hear all those tuning sounds before performances.

I was bad at tuning that way. I made those noises only because you are supposed to. Now that I read up on it, you are playing a 2-note chord (fifth interval). That one guy I knew who could play anything by ear was the fastest and most confident at tuning that way, now it makes sense.

I didn't have to practice anything to be able to replicate concert A, it's just something I could do. I vaguely recall the instructor tested all students carefully and failed everyone except me. I wasn't confident of my tuning, but I also thought all the others were faking to do poorly. The instructor probably had excellent pitch, because they didn't use a tuning fork. They just listened carefully to everyone's tuned A and told people how off each one was.

Come to think of it, an online test could be done the same way. Just give us a slider, and tell us "make a 440 Hz concert A." Then score us on how numerically close we are.

I see how your singing test works, nice. But I'm not a girl, so I never sing. If I someday figure out how to make vtuber avatar, I will try to sing. Because I will be a girl on the screen. But my voice: jesus™ I cringe hearing it played back. (I'm very manly. The microphone changes it, dammit!)

I was bad at tuning that way. I made those noises only because you are supposed to. Now that I read up on it, you are playing a 2-note chord (fifth interval). That one guy I knew who could play anything by ear was the fastest and most confident at tuning that way, now it makes sense.

That's right, guitars are tuned in 5ths except for the interval between the G and the B string, which is a 4th, giving the standard tuning EADGBe. I used to tune by ear that way, and if you can get at least one of the strings right by memory, you can get it mostly accurate like that - but I find as my relative pitch develops, it becomes slightly harder to get it right that way since the intonation on my guitars isn't perfect.

Come to think of it, an online test could be done the same way. Just give us a slider, and tell us "make a 440 Hz concert A." Then score us on how numerically close we are.

I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a site for that - I tune my guitars using an online app right now, since my tuner died a couple weeks back.

I see how your singing test works, nice. But I'm not a girl, so I never sing. If I someday figure out how to make vtuber avatar, I will try to sing. Because I will be a girl on the screen. But my voice: jesus™ I cringe hearing it played back. (I'm very manly. The microphone changes it, dammit!)

Yeah, I know that feeling, I can't listen to my own voice either. I read it's something to do with the acoustics of your own head - the resonation in your nerves and bones - which emphasizes the bass when you're speaking, but you don't get that with a microphone (especially not anything on the cheaper end).

So imagine what it must sound like for the voice actor for Kratos. Or any number of singers who sound like horses that smoked 2 packs a day for 40 years.

Yeah, I know that feeling, I can't listen to my own voice either. I read it's something to do with the acoustics of your own head - the resonation in your nerves and bones - which emphasizes the bass when you're speaking, but you don't get that with a microphone (especially not anything on the cheaper end).

So imagine what it must sound like for the voice actor for Kratos. Or any number of singers who sound like horses that smoked 2 packs a day for 40 years.

Almost everyone hates their own recorded voice. I don't think I have gotten used to it even after years of recording my own voice. I used to record my singing a lot, and other stuff besides singing as well. No longer record anything, though I still sing along a lot.
I take shit care of my voice. Combine that with singing difficult stuff and teaching kids. That's a throat destroyer combo. Tbh I think teaching kids did way more damage to my throat than singing.

This post has been edited by Ass Spanker: Jan 5 2022, 03:08

Wow, you teach kids...to sing? Or you just teach kids. I guess either could destroy your voice.

Anyways...I'm pretty much in shock right now. A number of the Japanese guys I used to play games with became vtubers. One of them, basically an amateur who just started, has a character of equal visual quality to all these Hololivers. He also defeated all of them in singing a girl song using a voice changer.

I think. I can't really read Japanese so I can't fully understand what's going on. His avatar looks like a girl with a skinny male body (I saw a lot of these in that link earlier). He voice changes sometimes to various types of low female voices. Sounds like those typical female Japanese VA who try to sound male, ironically (I dislike most of them). He uses his normal deep, dude voice other times.

I won't link the video or tell it to anyone here. I don't think he has much of a following, and am not sure how dedicated he is to getting one. But he looks serious.

A whole bunch of other Japanese players are vtubers too, with characters of varying visual quality. All were pretty much girls. Some using voice changer. It's pretty obvious sometimes. Robotic audio quality. I don't think they really want to be girls. They just want to use a girl avatar and speak to match.

The world ended. All the vtubers and even original famous artists lose to a dude using a voice changer.