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Oct 19 2021, 20:43
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Oct 19 2021, 08:57)  Bitcoin transaction fees aren't really set by regulators, but by users choosing how quickly they want their transaction validated and included on the chain. Since there's lots of BTC transactions, the fees are high. (Ignoring things like Lightning.) Now, maybe your exchange is tacking on fees on top of that, but right now the fees seem to be about 3-4 USD. At least they're better than the 60 USD they were earlier in the year.
I think in 2017 transaction reward was under 0.5$ and you wait up to 2 hours, something like 0.1$ if you willing to wait few days. But it was for sending from your local wallet, online wallets had extra fees, and this days it seems like there is more middlemans with extra fees. ___ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ In theory, elect/wind better than fire/cold because willow staff have native edb bonus for elect/wind(and dark), and willow staff is more preferable over redwood because willow have counter-resist parameter. So you want willow staff, and willow work best for elect/wind. Technically redwood staff have higher prof, prof also grant you counter-resist, but to compensate difference you'll need push prof too high(potentially use pants of elementalist instead of gloves, which would lower your edb and, in case of radiant, also lower mdb), pushing prof too high at some point will make your counter-mitigation maxed, so past this point your prof would be partially wasted(it will affect only counter-resist), so willow staff more optimal. Hard to estimate real difference. Fire/cold cheaper, there is some unexplained hype around cold mage so fire is cheapest one,but only until someone mention about this on forum - after that on next auction would be hype around fire mage equip (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Also with fire/cold you can use redwood staff which is cheaper, it is suboptimal but for fire/cold willow staff also suboptimal so not a big deal(you basically trade some counter-resist for edb+prof). Huge portion of money will go for upgrading equipment, fully upgrade mdb for a staff cost over 5m, i calculated recently upgrade for radiant phase piece to +22 - it would cost 18m. I dont know minimum upgrades you need, but at least staff must have mdb upgraded to +100?(and edb +50, but upgrade edb on staff is cheap, prof +50 cheap too), especially if its "of destruction" staff. Plus perk for elemental prof, DD1(maybe DD2) perk, 5+4 IW for staff, J5 IW for all pieces of armor... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Oct 20 2021, 01:26
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(bensalenkkari @ Oct 19 2021, 11:52)  How much would a decent mage set cost, be it fire, cold, or dark, whichever is the cheapest? Smooth arena clears would be enough, at least for now. I'm currently considering upgrading my mag power of slaughter pieces and possibly forging stuff, but perhaps I should save for mage pieces instead. If the price range is in the 8 figures or close for a single piece it's way out of my reach though - especially since forging phase pieces is so expensive too, and proficiency hath perk is another 4.4m or so.
The mages usually transition piece by piece so it isn't exactly clear for me how much it costs but someone made the transition in one go recently and posted in the experts thread, I think it was erhm davidtsu? In any case the transition to fire mage costed said user something around 70m considering forge, IWs and equips and it apparently was enough for arenas so I suppose it's a good reference. QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Oct 19 2021, 13:43)  Fire/cold cheaper, there is some unexplained hype around cold mage so fire is cheapest one,but only until someone mention about this on forum - after that on next auction would be hype around fire mage equip (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I think people don't like fire as much because there are more monsters resistant to fire and because the cold debuff seems better but from what has been posted the difference is not that big (or practically non-existant) between fire and cold so yeah, maybe peopel will realize fire is a very strong option and it will go up in price soon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 20 2021, 02:14
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Oct 19 2021, 23:26)  I think people don't like fire as much because there are more monsters resistant to fire and because the cold debuff seems better but from what has been posted the difference is not that big (or practically non-existant) between fire and cold so yeah, maybe peopel will realize fire is a very strong option and it will go up in price soon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well at least it is cheap for now. Biggest problem is ever growing prices for phazons. In almost 4 last months i've got only 3 phazons from monster lab. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Oct 20 2021, 08:28
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Nezu
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QUOTE(bensalenkkari @ Oct 19 2021, 17:52)  How much would a decent mage set cost, be it fire, cold, or dark, whichever is the cheapest? Smooth arena clears would be enough, at least for now. I'm currently considering upgrading my mag power of slaughter pieces and possibly forging stuff, but perhaps I should save for mage pieces instead. If the price range is in the 8 figures or close for a single piece it's way out of my reach though - especially since forging phase pieces is so expensive too, and proficiency hath perk is another 4.4m or so.
You can get a full set of fire/cold stuff for really cheap - something less than 10m for a full set of reasonably good pieces, and you don't really need high rolls either. But a full set of dark stuff wouldn't be much more for beginner stuff, I'd estimate ~15m, and partly because the staff would be slightly more expensive. Watch auctions, because low roll gear tends to be really cheap these days, and you don't need good rolls to begin maging. For the best beginner performance, you'd just want to upgrade the staff fully (about 15m), and the proficiency on the cotton pieces. You wouldn't need to worry about forging phases to start with, and to be honest, you could start without forging the staff either - it'd just be slightly less pleasant. I'd guess you could start mage for less than 20m these days and have a pretty good time with it.
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Oct 20 2021, 14:01
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Oct 20 2021, 07:26)  I think people don't like fire as much because there are more monsters resistant to fire and because the cold debuff seems better but from what has been posted the difference is not that big (or practically non-existant) between fire and cold so yeah, maybe peopel will realize fire is a very strong option and it will go up in price soon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) But is fire mage cool like cold mage? No. Checkmate
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Oct 20 2021, 15:10
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ Oct 20 2021, 07:01)  But is fire mage cool like cold mage? No. Checkmate
Well, there's a reason I've been part of the stone cold crazy gang since I was level 168 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) Here are my killer equips:  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 20 2021, 15:13
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bensalenkkari
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Oct 20 2021, 09:28)  You can get a full set of fire/cold stuff for really cheap - something less than 10m for a full set of reasonably good pieces, and you don't really need high rolls either. But a full set of dark stuff wouldn't be much more for beginner stuff, I'd estimate ~15m, and partly because the staff would be slightly more expensive. Watch auctions, because low roll gear tends to be really cheap these days, and you don't need good rolls to begin maging.
For the best beginner performance, you'd just want to upgrade the staff fully (about 15m), and the proficiency on the cotton pieces. You wouldn't need to worry about forging phases to start with, and to be honest, you could start without forging the staff either - it'd just be slightly less pleasant.
I'd guess you could start mage for less than 20m these days and have a pretty good time with it.
That sounds very manageable. I was under the impression high rolls and especially forging was necessary. Perhaps I should go for dark, since i got low roll charged pants today Legendary Charged Phase Pants of FenrirAnyway, how many and which pieces should be cotton, how many phases? Charged or radiant? Are those the same for all elements? Does dark need imperil later on? Not that I mind using imperil, I've really started to like how big of a damage boost it actually is. What IW for the staff, pen5 and something?
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Oct 20 2021, 16:39
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Nezu
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QUOTE(bensalenkkari @ Oct 20 2021, 14:13)  That sounds very manageable. I was under the impression high rolls and especially forging was necessary. Perhaps I should go for dark, since i got low roll charged pants today Legendary Charged Phase Pants of FenrirAnyway, how many and which pieces should be cotton, how many phases? Charged or radiant? Are those the same for all elements? Does dark need imperil later on? Not that I mind using imperil, I've really started to like how big of a damage boost it actually is. What IW for the staff, pen5 and something? For dark, I'd use cotton cap & gloves to start out with - it'll be ages before you get enough proficiency to switch to gloves & shoes, even fully forged. (On the other hand, being lower prof doesn't matter very much for arenas, because schoolgirls have -1 dark mitigation anyway, and they're generally going to be the slowest to die either way.) You'll want to use all charged - partly because radiants are much more expensive, partly because charged improves your survivability, and that helps a lot when you're just switching with low forging. Yes, dark uses imperil all the time. In schoolgirl arenas, you generally only need to imperil the schoolgirls, but in the Secret Pony Level, using imperil on all monsters can be slightly faster. All mage elements except holy use imperil, and even holy imperils schoolgirls, and holy generally performs worse than other elements until the holy mage has invested an extremely large amount of credits in their account. Penetrator 5 Spellweaver 4 is generally considered the best IW combination for a staff, but Penetrator 5 Archmage 4 is also acceptable (especially for arena-only play).
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Oct 20 2021, 17:59
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bensalenkkari
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Oct 20 2021, 17:39)  For dark, I'd use cotton cap & gloves to start out with - it'll be ages before you get enough proficiency to switch to gloves & shoes, even fully forged. (On the other hand, being lower prof doesn't matter very much for arenas, because schoolgirls have -1 dark mitigation anyway, and they're generally going to be the slowest to die either way.)
You'll want to use all charged - partly because radiants are much more expensive, partly because charged improves your survivability, and that helps a lot when you're just switching with low forging.
Yes, dark uses imperil all the time. In schoolgirl arenas, you generally only need to imperil the schoolgirls, but in the Secret Pony Level, using imperil on all monsters can be slightly faster. All mage elements except holy use imperil, and even holy imperils schoolgirls, and holy generally performs worse than other elements until the holy mage has invested an extremely large amount of credits in their account.
Penetrator 5 Spellweaver 4 is generally considered the best IW combination for a staff, but Penetrator 5 Archmage 4 is also acceptable (especially for arena-only play).
Alright, thanks. Hopefully some cheap pieces keep appearing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Oct 21 2021, 06:42
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andrew1590
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Previously as a Melee, I'm able to clear Post-Game Content with PFUDOR difficulty. It take around an hour to clear. After switching to Holy Mage, I'm only able to clear Post-Game Content with Nintendo difficulty because I just take whatever gear I have an assemble together. Market don't really have much equipment also as all of them mostly are level 500 or too costly. Attached a screenshot of my equipment. Thinking should I maintain as Mage or switch back to melee since I already have the gear for melee. Or is it my proficiency is too low. I'm currently level 423 but my Staff, Cloth & Divine is only 408. I wonder if this have a big impact from my transition to mage. This post has been edited by andrew1590: Oct 21 2021, 06:43
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Oct 21 2021, 06:48
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Nezu
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QUOTE(andrew1590 @ Oct 21 2021, 05:42)  After switching to Holy Mage, I'm only able to clear Post-Game Content with Nintendo difficulty because I just take whatever gear I have an assemble together. Market don't really have much equipment also as all of them mostly are level 500 or too costly. Actually, DWD, PGC and SPL are all locked to PFUDOR difficulty, so you are actually clearing it normally (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Holy is the worst way to start as a mage, and by PGC, you should probably be using 1) full legendary gear, and 2) good prefixes & suffixes. You have no proficiency pieces, which matters a little for a beginner mage in the harder arenas, even if end-game mages can play 5+0. I've written about mage equipment so you can read a little more about it in that thread, if you like!
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Oct 21 2021, 08:33
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andrew1590
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Oct 21 2021, 12:48)  I've written about mage equipment so you can read a little more about it in that thread, if you like! Thanks for the thread that you link previously. I'm able to see the bigger picture now. After finished reading, since I have some dark equipment in my Inventory. I'm giving dark a try now. Currently sitting at 697 dark proficiency, I wonder if that's enough? Or should I go 3 cotton + 2 phase. Is it advisable to keep using Imperial on all enemy or just SGs? Attached is my transition to dark gear. Might need a better staff I guess. 
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Oct 21 2021, 21:01
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Noni
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QUOTE(andrew1590 @ Oct 21 2021, 08:33)  Thanks for the thread that you link previously. I'm able to see the bigger picture now. After finished reading, since I have some dark equipment in my Inventory. I'm giving dark a try now. Currently sitting at 697 dark proficiency, I wonder if that's enough? Or should I go 3 cotton + 2 phase. Is it advisable to keep using Imperial on all enemy or just SGs? Attached is my transition to dark gear. Might need a better staff I guess.  If there are SG, then just imperil the SG. If no SG, then imperil the lot. Because, imperiled SG dies slower than non-imperiled regular mob
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Oct 23 2021, 07:42
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what_is_name
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Part of weird dream last night: Somewhere like the classroom in school, but anyway I was playing HV. Something what was borthering me so I was annoyed in playing. Suddenly there was a Peerless drop, Peerless Shade of Negation. Well almost trash I thought, but at least a Peerless. A trophy droped as well, seems like a Peerless Voucher, well PV won't drops in battle of couse. As the annoying things continued also I felt little dispointed with the Peerless Shade, I thought 'who cares?', and clicked something like continue or skip. As the result, the trophy was shrined in battle, a Peerless Buckler of the Barrier shows in the battle log. Well the Buckler need a good PAB to be a great one but anyway it's better than the Shade. There was nothing beside the Peerless Shade and Peerless Buckler in the battle log, looks quite not like the battle drops, but I was quite satisfied with that. In anyway two Peerless in one battle is a super rare thing. I tried to take a screenshot but shomething trouble happened. Another annoying things need to handle, but I was pleasure at that time so decided to stop HV and check it back later. Things after that was totally nothing about HV, but the pleasure mind continued, even I forgot why I was pleasure quite quickly. BTW I don't fell like need a Buckler actually. Also I shrine all the trophies in Isekai today and get nothing of couse. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 23 2021, 08:21
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OnceForAll
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QUOTE(what_is_name @ Oct 23 2021, 13:42)  Part of weird dream last night: Somewhere like the classroom in school, but anyway I was playing HV. Something what was borthering me so I was annoyed in playing. Suddenly there was a Peerless drop, Peerless Shade of Negation. Well almost trash I thought, but at least a Peerless. A trophy droped as well, seems like a Peerless Voucher, well PV won't drops in battle of couse. As the annoying things continued also I felt little dispointed with the Peerless Shade, I thought 'who cares?', and clicked something like continue or skip. As the result, the trophy was shrined in battle, a Peerless Buckler of the Barrier shows in the battle log. Well the Buckler need a good PAB to be a great one but anyway it's better than the Shade. There was nothing beside the Peerless Shade and Peerless Buckler in the battle log, looks quite not like the battle drops, but I was quite satisfied with that. In anyway two Peerless in one battle is a super rare thing. I tried to take a screenshot but shomething trouble happened. Another annoying things need to handle, but I was pleasure at that time so decided to stop HV and check it back later. Things after that was totally nothing about HV, but the pleasure mind continued, even I forgot why I was pleasure quite quickly. BTW I don't fell like need a Buckler actually. Also I shrine all the trophies in Isekai today and get nothing of couse. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If you indeed drop a sellable Peerless Shade of Negation, I might purchase it for my peerless shade set (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 25 2021, 02:55
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yami_zetsu
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Hath is expensive, are people unlocking hath perks lately, did something else happen or is it (them) manipulating the market?
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Oct 25 2021, 03:17
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Basara Nekki
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Oct 24 2021, 21:55)  Hath is expensive, are people unlocking hath perks lately, did something else happen or is it (them) manipulating the market?
That worries me too. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I think certain people want to acquire the most expensive hath perks, without caring about hath value, that is, they are in a hurry to get what they want. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I still have not bought DD8 precisely because the price went up. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I hope this comes back to the 4,000 someday. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Meanwhile, I'm going to accumulate credits. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Nov 5 2021, 09:31
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lemako
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 5 2021, 00:41)  Don't think so. I have this bookmarked: alt.hentaiverse.org/?s=Character&ss=eq And it always redirects to non alt site. No matter how many times I click it. Even if I manually enter alt.hentaiverse.org Still goes to regular HV. HVUtil is also set to redirect to alt. Regular HV works. Tried with, without scripts. Same result. I did update both HVutils and monsterbation, cause they are the only scripts I'm running. Even with updated versions it still doesn't work. Exact same problem on firefox.
Hmmm seems to be working on Edge. Maybe it's an extension or something. I shall investigate. DING DING DING. It was the "https everywhere" extension that forces https website versions. SOLVED!
I had the same problem as you and now I have solved it, thank you.
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Nov 5 2021, 21:20
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man1970111
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A question about monsters around Lv300:
What happened to the original series of monsters "Peerless XXXX of XXXX"? They seemed disappeared in the world, while new variants appear e.g. Peerless2 of XXXX Just curious what happened to the original series
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