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Aug 8 2021, 22:11
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BlueWaterSplash
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On that topic, I'm still not 100% convinced that Hallowed/Demonic are even better for SG arenas. While they are certainly better for the three SG themselves, this difference is lessened if you use Imperil and/or a lot of skills like Vital Strike (1H), Frenzy Blows (DW), or OFC.
Meanwhile, Hallowed/Demonic are the worst elements for the generic monsters if you use Imperil. And overall, I cannot say what the balance of importance is between SG and generic monsters is because it depends on how you play the SG arena.
Also, more investigation needs to be done with Tempestuous because wind is the best for killing Konata. And holy/dark is just as bad against Konata as cold/elec/fire....which actually means that cold/elec/fire would be much better than holy/dark against Konata especially if you use Imperil.
And depending how you play, Konata can be the most important SG to consider because she is the one you are going to want to beat down normally, and save your skills for the bigger SGs.
It is a complicated relationship that is not too different between elements in the end, is the best thing I can say.
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Aug 8 2021, 22:45
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 8 2021, 19:51)  You mean for the SG?
Yes for SG arena. I used fire infusion in the past, and after switch to dark i got some improvements in dmg and turn count. I'm using arctic rapier and flame spike shield. Here it was on legacy DwD: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5944497dark always had more dmg comparing to cold, and cold always was better comparing to fire(due to spike shield ofc). This post has been edited by Mud attheBaseofLotus: Aug 8 2021, 23:02
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Aug 9 2021, 00:31
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Aug 6 2021, 17:39)  I want hath to go back up to 15k.
Late reply, but I agree (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I don't mind GP prices rising either lol.
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Aug 9 2021, 13:25
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Aug 6 2021, 22:39)  I want hath to go back up to 15k.
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 7 2021, 09:40)  when hath was @20k.
Were they ever?
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Aug 9 2021, 13:45
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kamio11
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Aug 9 2021, 11:25)  Were they ever?
Yes.
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Aug 10 2021, 09:19
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Aug 9 2021, 13:45)  Yes.
When?
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Aug 10 2021, 10:17
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kamio11
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Aug 10 2021, 07:19)  When?
Just go back through the WTB threads around 2012-2014. A couple examples. Edit: You could also track it by checking the old auction threads. Lots of them used to accept hath valued at a fixed amount (K's auctions, D's auctions, g's auctions, ...). This post has been edited by kamio11: Aug 10 2021, 10:31
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Aug 11 2021, 08:06
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(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(Nezu @ Aug 10 2021, 22:20)  Yeah, every stat on an item contributes to its pxp, although the weights vary. The reason why Arcanist is so high is because it adds more than anything else, and PAB rolls are apparently pretty high weights. Katalox staffs can be 368 PXP which I think is the lowest. Not all kataloxes are - Focus suffix is 371, for example. Peerless Shocking Axe of Slaughter - 375 Peerless Onyx Force Shield of Stoneskin - 374 Peerless Fiery Katalox Staff of Heimdall - 368 i never know that some peerless 1h weapon don't have 100 IW rounds... Should have check it first when I search it... This post has been edited by Greshnik: Aug 11 2021, 08:10
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Aug 11 2021, 13:08
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Aug 11 2021, 09:06)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i never know that some peerless 1h weapon don't have 100 IW rounds... Should have check it first when I search it... Fun fact - Peerless Leather is always 393 PXP (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Aug 14 2021, 09:38
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BlueWaterSplash
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Petal_Kiss is fighting with a24711255 for the peerless hallowed rapier. Skirt With Legs is using an interesting reverse psychology of bidding, by pretending to bid just under 50m to show that "if you bid 50m you will win this item." Then when a24711255 did bid 50m, Skirt With Legs says "just kidding!" and stomp him down with just under 100m bid to again tempt with "if you dare to bid 100m you will win this item." I have used this strategy for materials before, but not with the same intention. Instead, more for long term pricing influence since materials relist weekly. Did you guys know that Petal_Kiss used to be named a723370967 so maybe they are from the same clan? Hehehe. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Only little green munchkin is powerful enough to beat the Skirt With Legs. Well there are some other lords of this realm, but those two fought the historical battles of legend.
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Aug 14 2021, 16:42
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Aug 14 2021, 08:38)  Petal_Kiss is fighting with a24711255 for the peerless hallowed rapier. Skirt With Legs is using an interesting reverse psychology of bidding, by pretending to bid just under 50m to show that "if you bid 50m you will win this item." Then when a24711255 did bid 50m, Skirt With Legs says "just kidding!" and stomp him down with just under 100m bid to again tempt with "if you dare to bid 100m you will win this item." I have used this strategy for materials before, but not with the same intention. Instead, more for long term pricing influence since materials relist weekly. Did you guys know that Petal_Kiss used to be named a723370967 so maybe they are from the same clan? Hehehe. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Only little green munchkin is powerful enough to beat the Skirt With Legs. Well there are some other lords of this realm, but those two fought the historical battles of legend. I'm imagining an interesting scenario, like this : one bets above 100m, the other relaunch to 149m and gets it. Soon after, the winner drops a double ... (he he he, Snowflake's joke (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ). What to do now ... he auctions it, and his former adversary (being the only heavy bidder now) gets it for 1m. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Aug 14 2021, 21:37
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BlueWaterSplash
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I wouldn't quite call that pure collecting because those are commonly thought to be the most useful melee weapons in the game. Having 6 might be redundant, but having 2 or 3 has use because demonic/hallowed are inferior to fiery/arctic/tempestuous/shocking if using a full imperil style against regular monsters.
I can make an argument that each of those prefixes is possibly the best (keep in mind not by much) except for shocking.
If you don't use infusions, then owning all 6 element rapiers of identical quality would allow you to use a different one corresponding to each element of the day. You might save money after a zillion years.
Petal_Kiss doesn't have tempestuous yet. I don't know if he has peerless ethereal but I pray he doesn't want, because I still do. Please don't step on me. I might also still bid on arctic.
I appears I dodged a bullet last week. Maybe Mantra64 wanted a peerless hallowed in particular to match with his Stars Light. For laughs, Stars Light originally sold for 7.5m and I think a peerless hallowed rapier of slaughter also sold for around that much in one of the first auctions a long time ago.
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Aug 15 2021, 00:50
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Somnophil
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What is the lowest possible tower ranking that confers benefits? I can probably crack the top 500 by virtue of just trying harder than other casuals, but the top 100 will be a challenge for me.
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Aug 15 2021, 00:55
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Basara Nekki
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QUOTE(Somnophil @ Aug 14 2021, 19:50)  What is the lowest possible tower ranking that confers benefits? I can probably crack the top 500 by virtue of just trying harder than other casuals, but the top 100 will be a challenge for me.
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 21 2021, 06:25)  - The end-of-season permanent stat bonuses are now officially fixed to floor level rather than being competitive. The Top 10 peerless voucher and per-floor damage bonus remain unchanged. -- Clear Floor 50: +3 to all primary stats -- Clear Floor 40: +2 to all primary stats -- Clear Floor 30: +1 to all primary stats
Until the floor 40 is easy. Then it starts to get hard.
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Aug 15 2021, 02:11
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Somnophil
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All-righty. I think I can... I think I can...
Come on, Light/2hMace style, you've somehow dragged me as far as you have in persistent, you can do it... XD
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