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Jan 22 2021, 22:53
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 5-January 14

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 23 2021, 04:45)  Because as was pointed out, who wants to spend a lot of money on something you will lose? Ultimately what you are really buying is a chance to win in the isekai season rankings, but how much is that really worth? And you may still achieve a top ranking without the weapon, or fail to achieve with it.
I agree, so I choose to give away.
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Jan 22 2021, 23:02
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lololo16
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 5-March 12

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 22 2021, 17:45)  Because as was pointed out, who wants to spend a lot of money on something you will lose? Ultimately what you are really buying is a chance to win in the isekai season rankings, but how much is that really worth?
i think you can take to persistent anything you soulfuse. Shields and rapiers are expensive cause everyone is playing 1h.And if you have good equips the journey will be less painful (everyone is having a hard time playing with lame stuff)
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Jan 23 2021, 00:05
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BlueWaterSplash
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Oh, if soulbound stuff carries over then yeah anything could be good. Was it always that way and I missed it, or did Tenboro change it at some point? I think I recall that at one point, Peerless were not carrying over and Tenboro changed it.
edit: yup looks like Tenboro changed it, quite recently in fact.
So in light of that, I still think the same of low and medium quality equipments (should obviously be worth more in isekai) which includes low-rolled legendary rapiers and such.
Ultra high-rolled legendary rapiers and peerless gear should be worth more in isekai, since they can be carried over, although perhaps not too much more. They should be worth their persistent value + the chances to improve your ranking, which as I mentioned before is not guaranteed to benefit from even a peerless.
Medium and medium high-rolled legendary rapiers (or any sort-of-top gear) might still suffer from devaluation in isekai. I'm not sure about this though. The perception of being a temporary weapon might still hurt these. Even if soulfused and brought over, if they aren't really good enough to keep in persistent forever then they could be a waste of credits, and can't be resold.
This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Jan 23 2021, 00:24
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Jan 23 2021, 00:36
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 10,914
Joined: 5-January 14

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QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 22 2021, 06:04)  Aw, the level is way too high but thank you so much. I like gifts and those are lovely.
I've always depended on the kindness of strangers.
Get a Magnificent Onyx Phase Cap of Fenrir 318 today and send it to you.
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Jan 23 2021, 00:41
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aleden
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 22 2021, 22:45)  I just started playing isekai so haven't followed prices. My thinking is that prices in isekai would obviously be higher for low and medium quality gear since they are useful for everyone. Prices may peak for "high" quality gear like low-rolled legendaries.
Yet truly high quality gear would probably not be worth as much as on persistent. For example any high rolled rapier worth millions, or awesome legendary mage gears, might be worth nothing or just about the same as a low rolled legendary on isekai.
Because as was pointed out, who wants to spend a lot of money on something you will lose? Ultimately what you are really buying is a chance to win in the isekai season rankings, but how much is that really worth? And you may still achieve a top ranking without the weapon, or fail to achieve with it.
Common thought is that on a rapier/shortsword in persistent, parry is overrated at high level. But everyone is low level in isekai, so the parry roll may be way more important than the adb roll.
There is also the issue of a much smaller playbase and less competition in bids. From what chjj30 showed, it looks like less than 30 players are even competitive in the rankings, and someone only needs to place top 20 (?) to get the top prize.
So if you get a top quality isekai legendary (or a low rolled isekai legendary) you'll probably just have to end up using it yourself, or look for someone to trade with perhaps.
Peerless gear carries to persistent so you can expect full credits value for those, however my guess is that it's not worth a premium like you might expect. I'm thinking a peerless isekai may not be worth much more than a peerless persistent.
Yeah... What do you even get and what is the range for these tower rankings? I started super late, literally two days ago, and I'm rank 240. Tells me the active to semi-active playerbase is probably around 300-400 people max. I could probably reach top 100 this season if I try, but I'm not 100% sure it's even worth it, especially considering I'm fairly low level in persistent and I just started playing again. BTW - any low level players (around 270) who need a Mag Power Helmet of Balance, I just upgraded my power helmet and I have no need for this old one. No idea if this shit is worth much to anyone so I'd rather just give it to someone who will use it.
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Jan 23 2021, 00:49
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Jan 22 2021, 14:34)  what's the difference between alt.hentaiverse.org and hentaiverse.org? Just the https?
Cloudflare I think, so as you can guess the vanilla version was unplayable or really slow for some people whereas the alt one was relatively smooth. That said I don't know if it's because the holiday season is over or the new servers but even the normal one works nicely for me now.
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Jan 23 2021, 00:59
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 5-January 14

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QUOTE(aleden @ Jan 23 2021, 06:41)  Yeah... What do you even get and what is the range for these tower rankings? I started super late, literally two days ago, and I'm rank 240. Tells me the active to semi-active playerbase is probably around 300-400 people max. I could probably reach top 100 this season if I try, but I'm not 100% sure it's even worth it, especially considering I'm fairly low level in persistent and I just started playing again.
BTW - any low level players (around 270) who need a Mag Power Helmet of Balance, I just upgraded my power helmet and I have no need for this old one. No idea if this shit is worth much to anyone so I'd rather just give it to someone who will use it.
The Mag Power Helmet of Balance is even useful for Players like me, but you seem not to be a Donator yet, so sadly you can't sent it to others.
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Jan 23 2021, 05:54
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lololo16
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 5-March 12

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QUOTE(FullestDay @ Jan 23 2021, 00:40)  Welp, so I decided to join in on the big dark mage staff on a whim (I don't even have a full set of dark mage cloth ATM), and well...
congratulations (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE EDIT: the item is being weird, though, I can equip it, but I can't link it, it comes up as
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jan 23 2021, 06:34
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Kinights
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QUOTE(FullestDay @ Jan 23 2021, 00:40)  Welp, so I decided to join in on the big dark mage staff on a whim (I don't even have a full set of dark mage cloth ATM), and well... https://hentaiverse.org/equip/267122913/804d1d7376Damn it, so lucky. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Dark mage is pretty good with 0.8 proficiency and spamming imperil on all monsters present, with the nice deprecating proficiency bonus from the staff too. Being a Peerless, you can full forge it without feeling any guilt because it's probably somethign you'll never replace, unless equips are updated in the future or something.
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Jan 23 2021, 07:48
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 5-January 14

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QUOTE(FullestDay @ Jan 23 2021, 11:40)  Welp, so I decided to join in on the big dark mage staff on a whim (I don't even have a full set of dark mage cloth ATM), and well... (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/cRIVIEc.png) EDIT: the item is being weird, though, I can equip it, but I can't link it, it comes up as https://hentaiverse.org/equip/267122913/undefinedDouble edit: Even weirder, it's back to normal once I upgraded it once. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/267122913/804d1d7376You're not dark Mage, but luck Mage.
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Jan 23 2021, 10:26
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Honeycat
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jan 22 2021, 12:36)  Just got it, thank you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) The Tower is becoming too hard and it's starting to suck and the rest of it is becoming as boring as regular HV. The monster names in Isekai are totally kooky, though. When I scan them it doesn't show the trainer name, it just says Isekai as the trainer. It should say who is responsible for those spamfucked abominations.
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Jan 24 2021, 01:21
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desiresanonymity
Lurker
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Okay, is it me or are experience gains lower today than they were yesterday? Did something happen?
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Jan 24 2021, 02:00
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Chaisy
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 3-August 12

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QUOTE(desiresanonymity @ Jan 23 2021, 18:21)  Okay, is it me or are experience gains lower today than they were yesterday? Did something happen?
There's an XP bonus for posting on the forums within the past 30 days. So that could have been it? You only have 1 post besides this one.
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Jan 24 2021, 08:59
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,275
Joined: 19-February 16

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Good news, everyone! Schoolgirls are nerfed on isekai. Way less health now. Thanks tenboro!
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Jan 24 2021, 09:02
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 10,914
Joined: 5-January 14

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QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 24 2021, 14:59)  Good news, everyone! Schoolgirls are nerfed on isekai. Way less health now. Thanks tenboro!
Wow! Thanks Tenboro and thank you for informing us!
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Jan 24 2021, 09:43
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Kinights
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 988
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 24 2021, 03:59)  Good news, everyone! Schoolgirls are nerfed on isekai. Way less health now. Thanks tenboro!
Just in time for me to start the last arenas. >:) Time for some spanking(piercing and bashing).
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Jan 24 2021, 10:59
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Pretty anon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,670
Joined: 10-April 17

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QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 24 2021, 00:59)  Good news, everyone! Schoolgirls are nerfed on isekai. Way less health now. Thanks tenboro!
Blessed news, definitely noticeable so I'm really thankful for the nerf. Nice one Tenboro (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jan 24 2021, 11:46
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SoaD666
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Jan 24 2021, 15:14
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Juggernaut Santa
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I just got 2 MGW from salvaging a single exquisite piece...what?
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