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post Oct 16 2020, 08:33
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QUOTE(lestion @ Oct 1 2020, 12:23) *

The entire active playerbase is basically getting somewhere around 20 stocking stuffers over the duration of this event based on admin's numbers - so basically Christmas on steroids. Plus they're actually gonna get shrined since they're untradable. I think there should be a good auction next week, yeah.

That said, I expect a ton of people to shrine them on stupid shit, like 2H weapons and heavy armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I guess everyone shrined them on stupid things, the auctions are no better than usual so far. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 17 2020, 02:20
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A little help here, I would like to know if you think that in the current market this would attract the attention of some buyers:

Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall

The other detail would be to know if it is safe to send this to auction, or to carry out the auction myself, I comment because there I saw a comment about that sometimes it is not a good idea to auction some equipment yourself.
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post Oct 17 2020, 04:13
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Oct 17 2020, 01:20) *

A little help here, I would like to know if you think that in the current market this would attract the attention of some buyers:

Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall

The other detail would be to know if it is safe to send this to auction, or to carry out the auction myself, I comment because there I saw a comment about that sometimes it is not a good idea to auction some equipment yourself.


You should send it to Superlatanium next week and cross your fingers, or list it in a shop.
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post Oct 18 2020, 03:28
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You know, I forgot to tell you that this was not a 100% complete victory, since it is true that I broke the scheme of the probabilities that my first Radiant Phase equipment would appear right after you explained how unlikely it is to get one , Anyway you won me again with respect to something ... I wanted to keep it a secret ... but ... since:

[imgbox.com] (IMG:[thumbs2.imgbox.com] https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/d4/46/uebE0kcM_t.png)

That's right, I got this gear in a Random Encounter, checking once again that your stats are 100% accurate certainly when it comes to RE.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) And to think that I would not be doing RE, if I had not partially withdrawn from this.
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post Oct 19 2020, 14:14
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[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&s...mp;lottery=2397

Today's lottery. Is it part of any end-game build?
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post Oct 19 2020, 14:40
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QUOTE(Visadio @ Oct 19 2020, 13:14) *

[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&s...mp;lottery=2397

Today's lottery. Is it part of any end-game build?


Sort of, yeah.

Holy mage has an interesting super-endgame distinction where running it with 4 phase + 1 cotton (robe) becomes better than the standard 3 phase + 2 cotton (gloves + shoes)... at 590+ prof, assuming you have a PHOH, or at least an LHOH with absurdly high proficiency.

But while that's been commonly acknowledged now, most people seem to massively underestimate how much play we're talking about to get your prof that high - like, to the tune of 6000+ full PFUDOR grindfests (starting at 500, with assimilator 25, GS, every exp training/perk). Even catgirl only halves this number to 3000+. It's simple not something the vast majority of players are ever going to achieve without years of consistent play.

3+2 performs extremely well, despite the EDB/MDB difference. So for most holy mages, this is still their ultimate shoe slot. But there's one more thing to note - 3+2 doesn't actually struggle that much to hit 1.0 prof, after which prof is wasted. So they're okay with fairly low prof rolls on their shoes. The main benefit to this peerless is survivability and a tiny tiny bit more MDB from int/wis.

Also, it makes your dick bigger.
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post Oct 19 2020, 20:42
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QUOTE(lestion @ Oct 19 2020, 14:40) *

Sort of, yeah.

Holy mage has an interesting super-endgame distinction where running it with 4 phase + 1 cotton (robe) becomes better than the standard 3 phase + 2 cotton (gloves + shoes)... at 590+ prof, assuming you have a PHOH, or at least an LHOH with absurdly high proficiency.

But while that's been commonly acknowledged now, most people seem to massively underestimate how much play we're talking about to get your prof that high - like, to the tune of 6000+ full PFUDOR grindfests (starting at 500, with assimilator 25, GS, every exp training/perk). Even catgirl only halves this number to 3000+. It's simple not something the vast majority of players are ever going to achieve without years of consistent play.

3+2 performs extremely well, despite the EDB/MDB difference. So for most holy mages, this is still their ultimate shoe slot. But there's one more thing to note - 3+2 doesn't actually struggle that much to hit 1.0 prof, after which prof is wasted. So they're okay with fairly low prof rolls on their shoes. The main benefit to this peerless is survivability and a tiny tiny bit more MDB from int/wis.

Also, it makes your dick bigger.


I see, so it's basically my e-peen is bigger than yours lol

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post Oct 24 2020, 08:33
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I think I'm going to be banned from Superlatanium auctions for life, but I'm going to withdraw the Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall from the MM I send.

The auction is about to end, and they have not even reached half the price for which this equipment was valued.

I suggest that from now on, so that the same thing that happened to me does not happen to you, because the HV market is currently terribly bad, do not trust yourself and put a minimum starting price on your equipment, so that it is not undersold for few credits. Prefer to keep your equipment with great value, if there is no one who can pay the minimum they are worth.

At the moment I'm only going to wait 4 more hours before removing the equipment from the auction. I would put up with this being sold out if I had a Gold star and credits to waste, but I don't have them, so I prefer to keep something that is worth a lot and at the moment cannot sell, than to lose a lot of credits just for the sake of it.

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post Oct 24 2020, 11:13
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Oct 24 2020, 08:33) *

I think I'm going to be banned from Superlatanium auctions for life, but I'm going to withdraw the Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall from the MM I send.

The auction is about to end, and they have not even reached half the price for which this equipment was valued.

I suggest that from now on, so that the same thing that happened to me does not happen to you, because the HV market is currently terribly bad, do not trust yourself and put a minimum starting price on your equipment, so that it is not undersold for few credits. Prefer to keep your equipment with great value, if there is no one who can pay the minimum they are worth.

At the moment I'm only going to wait 4 more hours before removing the equipment from the auction. I would put up with this being sold out if I had a Gold star and credits to waste, but I don't have them, so I prefer to keep something that is worth a lot and at the moment cannot sell, than to lose a lot of credits just for the sake of it.


i understand that you find the result so far disappointing. However, I doubt that you'll ever get a better price for the item. The current meta is changing a bit, away from holy. Just a bit, but enough to make the prices a bit lower than let's say half a year ago. It's a fair market price that you'll be getting.

I strongly recommend you not to withdraws those gloves from auction. You'd be quite unfair to other players, and this will lead to some raised eyebrows within the community and the mod team as well.
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post Oct 24 2020, 11:18
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also, auctions work in such a principle: when you send an item, you basically agree you will be fine with whatever price you'll earn from bidders. if not, just set a starting price.

past that, you have basically no claims on ending price, regardless you like it or not
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post Oct 24 2020, 15:21
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 24 2020, 12:13) *

i understand that you find the result so far disappointing. However, I doubt that you'll ever get a better price for the item. The current meta is changing a bit, away from holy. Just a bit, but enough to make the prices a bit lower than let's say half a year ago. It's a fair market price that you'll be getting.

I strongly recommend you not to withdraws those gloves from auction. You'd be quite unfair to other players, and this will lead to some raised eyebrows within the community and the mod team as well.


Look, seriously, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, but I have no choice.

Practically I am no longer playing this and with what happened in this auction, it is definitive that I totally withdraw from playing this because there is no longer a market.

Imagine Lestion explaining a month ago how difficult it is to get something like what I got, so that later on I just have to put up with the consequences of the current situation and just watch this get wasted? As I mentioned earlier, I prefer that Superlatanium ban me from their auctions forever.

The one who is buying this has much more credits than I do, so he will be able to buy similar equipment at some other time, in my case I will no longer be able to buy anything.

By the way, in previous auctions the equipments of this suffix were sold for a minimum quantity of 80M, the only one that sold for 30M were exactly gloves, but they had 49% EDB and were level 500, and I'm sure they don't compare. to these.

Once again I apologize, especially to the poor that I am going to indirectly affect, because I sent another piece to auction and just now someone came to bid for it, and well I will have to withdraw both because I will not be getting into bigger problems than Superlatanium, I would totally look like an asshole saying:

"I removed a piece of equipment from the auction because I no liked the final sale price, but another that I send if it was sold at the correct price, could you give me the credits I obtained for that?"

Well, I have to go and think about what to do now that I already have time available thanks to the consequences that all this will entail.
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post Oct 24 2020, 16:08
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you really withdrew the gloves huh
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post Oct 24 2020, 16:20
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QUOTE(Visadio @ Oct 24 2020, 16:08) *

you really withdrew the gloves huh

he withdrew both items, clo01 and clo03. Bidders will be angry, and rightly so.
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post Oct 24 2020, 17:21
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clo03 is on moogle now
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post Oct 24 2020, 20:05
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Oct 24 2020, 07:33) *

I think I'm going to be banned from Superlatanium auctions for life, but I'm going to withdraw the Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall from the MM I send.

The auction is about to end, and they have not even reached half the price for which this equipment was valued.

I suggest that from now on, so that the same thing that happened to me does not happen to you, because the HV market is currently terribly bad, do not trust yourself and put a minimum starting price on your equipment, so that it is not undersold for few credits. Prefer to keep your equipment with great value, if there is no one who can pay the minimum they are worth.


Your move is wrong, for the following reason :

YOU have decided to put it on auction, instead of setting up your own WTS (aka 'shop').

YOU have decided to NOT put a starting price for it.

That means YOU were preferring to run the risk of not getting a "fair" price (whatever that is, if it even exist), rather then running either the risk of not selling it (due to high start price) or the risk of having to wait a long time before selling it (like it happens in WTS) while it (possibly) devalues even further.

Instread, you prefer to play safe for yourself, lesaving all the risks on the buyers.

I CALL THIS UNFAIR, not the bids you got.

I have nothing against you personally, mind you; I could even sympathize with your predicament.

But you should also think what would happen if this kind of behaviour becomes commonplace ; think what the market would become then ... not like it is now, but so much worse, that you wouldn't believe it.

For my part, if I ever will run a auction for others, I'll put in the rules that they have to send the equips first and after the auction starts noone can recall anything; and I'd like for the others auctioneers to do the same in their rules.
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post Oct 25 2020, 00:28
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For my part, if I ever will run a auction for others, I'll put in the rules that they have to send the equips first and after the auction starts noone can recall anything; and I'd like for the others auctioneers to do the same in their rules.

That's exactly what I do, just saying.
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post Oct 25 2020, 01:30
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Clo01 went for a fair amount of credits. I don't know how much you wanted for your items but to me it feels like you shot yourself in the foot. You can't predict how much an item will go for in an auction there's too many variables involved. However what is certain now is the animosity of a few players toward you and you won't seem trustworthy. Well this was a dick move but recalling your times right when the auction ended was worse. I've seen items recalled before but they were recalled with one or two days before the auction ended. Never like this. I don't think it was worth it tbh. Sometimes your reputation is worth more than a few million credits.

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post Oct 25 2020, 04:03
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Oct 24 2020, 15:21) *

Look, seriously, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, but I have no choice.

The one who is buying this has much more credits than I do, so he will be able to buy similar equipment at some other time, in my case I will no longer be able to buy anything.


Laughable and immature thought, just thank god that this is merely a game, not some real life. I hope you read every single detail in the future before you enter any sort of purchase and sale agreement before signing your life away.

What happened to me is unfortunate, I don't really care anyways, but I do hope this incident would improve any future auction, thus prevent it can be happening again to other.
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post Oct 25 2020, 04:21
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Still figuring out all of the different Auction houses with HV but a couple of points from years of MMO and AH Experience

I'm actually surprised that the AH you are using doesn't lock auctions. Like 6 hours after the Auction goes live it can no longer be canceled. Honestly locked auctions help the seller sometimes too. You never know what will happen at the end. I'm guessing that the 3rd party AH sites are more competitive with each other for clients. So they are scared to anger users. The smart business move for those sites is to actually work together on these types of things. Small business groups have a decent success rate. Basically to join the group you have to agree to enforce rules that the group makes. It would also give them enforcement over smaller AH's who want to be a part of it.

Arkoniusx you have other options. You choose this auction. So you are the most at fault.. If this was a game software company who controlled the only way to sell items. I could understand your anger. I still would not support someone who agrees to the rules beforehand and then breaks them. My 8 year old nephew does that. He's 8 and doesn't understand that he is not the victim. I'm sure as an adult he will understand personal accountability. In my experience the video game community as a whole struggles with it.

Just some human to human advice Arkoniusx. Why do you feel the need to discuss it? I didn't know anything about this and never would have. You made it a point on a public forum. If you really believe you are in the right, Why do you care what other people think? If you had just taken it down without bringing the topic to a public post. Very few people would have known. Now, its available to anyone like me. Honestly, It just makes you look bad. I've been there. I was a guild leader in Wow for 8 years. My first year i defended my decisions constantly. It never made people happy. When i stopped defending myself. People stopped second guessing me. There is a reason lawyers tell people not to talk about circumstances. If i make a mistake, I own it. Then disappear for a bit. So people can settle down.

I'm actually against buying weapons and armor personally. I started using HVmarket to buy mats today and it's been great. I need a lot of mats. I resisted it at first but I pretty much had to do it. As everyone knows on this forum. I picked HVMarket because they only do mats. My plan was to not sell anything. Then i needed 150k credits. I've already made more credits selling mats in one day than I feel comfortable with. It can be addicting.

Let me be the first to say I might be wrong. I really don't know much about you or this topic. It doesn't even make me mad. I expect certain behavior online. If you disagree or dislike what i said...that's fine. I didn't post this because I care. I posted it because you brought it to a public forum. Giving unwanted opinions at public forums is an American tradition that I support. lol

I will read into the 3rd party auctions in HV. I have yet to form an opinion due to lack of knowledge. I like free markets generally. Having a small amount of oversight is required typically. Maybe Twilight Sparkle can police it lol. I doubt this in an outlier problem. I would bet a lot of people back out on auctions. They just stay off the forums afterwards lol. Thank you for giving me something to entertain myself with. I have been snowed into my house all day. Normally I wouldn't use an essay format to say. "You are in the wrong for canceling it." (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Oct 25 2020, 07:27
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Arkoniusx shouldn't have done that, but let me play the devil's advocate here. At the moment, there is no rule against shill bidding on Super's auction. In fact some players are cycling and bidding on their own materials week after week; this has been going on for months. Superlatanium is aware of it and did nothing.

All Arkoniusx had to do, was shill bid 500m on his own items to get them back. I think he deserves any punishment he gets, but let's also consider how we currently treat shill bidding and the reselling of materials when the auctions have no selling fee.

I am not fully opposed to the reselling of materials, and I do it myself from time to time (in moderation, as I try to only buy what I need). However I think these issues should be thought over.
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