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Aug 22 2019, 12:51
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Balls-of-steel @ Aug 21 2019, 04:09)  You can't deny though, that HV is not a necessity in terms of having a system with donations, bounties, advertisements etc.
People don't just buy stars or adopt servers for fun. They need their haths and credits to have a purpose, and HV exactly solves that problem. I know for sure if there were no HV, I would be using some ass written scripts to download from EH and some other ass written script to load all images instead of the MPV. QUOTE(Balls-of-steel @ Aug 21 2019, 04:09)  You could put the download link to each gallery behind an ad popup or ad video similar to video on demand websites, this would probably lead to a way bigger yield for the website.
You know most people use AdBlock right? According to my experience, with intrusive ads, people either turn to another alternative or use some drastic methods to get rid of them, which the admin, in turn, has to implement something to counter them and make the site worse. You know what is the fastest way to get rid of users from your site? Use shit tons of ads and use an Adblock blocker. The people who stay are usually the ones who never donate or bring money to the site. I mean, there is a reason why some people use bad websites to get stuff for free even though the sites suck. TL;DR: HV encourages people to donate/adopt servers. Intrusive advertisements as an alternative to HV is a bad idea. This post has been edited by Ass Spanker: Aug 22 2019, 12:51
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Aug 22 2019, 20:46
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Arkoniusx
Group: Members
Posts: 1,607
Joined: 21-December 08

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Hey, I can't believe it, I just got 2 pieces of magnificient grade hand equipment in the shrine that I was just looking for.
One is a piece of power and the other is a piece of shade with 4 tiers, I obtain the 2 the same day, and only spend 10 trophies, what are the possibilities?
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Aug 22 2019, 21:26
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,133
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 22 2019, 20:46)  Hey, I can't believe it, I just got 2 pieces of magnificient grade hand equipment in the shrine that I was just looking for.
One is a piece of power and the other is a piece of shade with 4 tiers, I obtain the 2 the same day, and only spend 10 trophies, what are the possibilities?
Congrats! As long as you are pleased with magnificent items, the chances of getting anything good are pretty good. If you want legendary, shrining is not your best bet.
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Aug 22 2019, 21:48
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Arkoniusx
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Well is Magnificent shade and Magnifcent Power, so for the moment is a good increase to my stats. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Aug 22 2019, 22:58
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ahroun
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 22 2019, 21:48)  Well is Magnificent shade and Magnifcent Power, so for the moment is a good increase to my stats. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Just to make sure, but you aren't mixing Light and Heavy armor in the same set, are you?
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Aug 23 2019, 00:26
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Arkoniusx
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(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) No, total diferent set of armor for different person, the one whit the One-handed figthing style is have a full heavy power equipment set.
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Aug 28 2019, 02:06
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ikki.
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 11-October 16

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There is any Peerless Arctic Redwood Staff of the Elementalist? How much can it cost?
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Aug 28 2019, 07:15
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Noni
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Aug 28 2019, 02:06)  There is any Peerless Arctic Redwood Staff of the Elementalist? How much can it cost?
I haven't seen one. But a peerless redwood of elementalist would have to cost about 5-10m I think.
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Aug 28 2019, 10:38
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(morineko @ Aug 28 2019, 08:13)  https://hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&ss=lt&lottery=1781around 130k-150k tickets in lottery none in past auctions. I put ONE ticket in that auction, but didn't win (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It was with ticket prices around 300 C, so total spent (by all participants) was between 40 and 50 M Since no participant can have more then 10% tickets, anestimation of 4-5 M seems a good one, but for such rare items it always depends if a big buy wants it "nevermatterhowmuch" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Aug 28 2019, 14:45
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kamio11
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Joined: 6-June 13

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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Aug 28 2019, 08:38)  I put ONE ticket in that auction, but didn't win (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It was with ticket prices around 300 C, so total spent (by all participants) was between 40 and 50 M Since no participant can have more then 10% tickets, anestimation of 4-5 M seems a good one, but for such rare items it always depends if a big buy wants it "nevermatterhowmuch" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Lotteries are a decently reliable way of getting peerless equipment that you want. At least compared to all the other ways.
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Aug 30 2019, 03:32
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sssss2
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Jul 26 2019, 11:12)  I hope HV players sell crystals and trophies to me, before quitting (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I need 30,000 packs to feed all monsters to pl 1500. Fed monsters to pl 1478, and now 7500 packs left to achieve my goal.
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Aug 31 2019, 00:59
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Fudo Masamune
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 well... at least it give me a notification that the pony actually refuse to shows up now... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Aug 31 2019, 01:00
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Aug 31 2019, 22:05
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jantch
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QUOTE(jantch @ Mar 22 2019, 13:27)  An update on my morale drain rate tests - After 5 weeks, it looks like the morale drain rate scaling starts at 250, is linear, and the 2x point is at a monster level of around 580. This fits in nicely with this post. Almost, but not quite. It looks to be between 579 and 580, which didn't quite make sense. QUOTE(jantch @ Mar 22 2019, 13:27)  I'll probably make a 250 and a 580 monster soon, to see if their morale drain stays in sync.
I made a 250 and a 1240 monster (250 + 3 x 330, for 4x morale drain rate) a couple of months ago. The morale drop sometimes stays in sync, but it's not consistent. There are times when it takes exactly 12 hours for a morale drop on the 250 monster, and 48 hours for a morale drop on the 1240 monster. Frequently, however, there is a slight delay, maybe 1 to 4 minutes on the 250 monster. The delay on the 1240 monster has been the sum of the delays for the 250 monster over the same time period, plus frequently a little more. At last check, the morale drain rate for the 1240 monster was almost 4.01x instead of 4x. So, my guess is that the morale drain rate starts changing after 250, and it's supposed to increase by a factor of 1 every 330 levels (although it's probably capped), but whatever is causing the slight lag makes the drain rate increase a little better. I can't be positive without knowing what causes the inconsistency, but it's close enough for me.
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Aug 31 2019, 22:25
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 30 2019, 17:59)   well... at least it give me a notification that the pony actually refuse to shows up now... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) applejack
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Aug 31 2019, 23:10
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,571
Joined: 12-July 14

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Can't you see it's Trixie? She's too great and powerful for his browser.
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Sep 1 2019, 16:04
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mundomuñeca
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Joined: 14-July 17

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QUOTE(jantch @ Aug 31 2019, 22:05)  Almost, but not quite. It looks to be between 579 and 580, which didn't quite make sense. I made a 250 and a 1240 monster (250 + 3 x 330, for 4x morale drain rate) a couple of months ago. The morale drop sometimes stays in sync, but it's not consistent.
There are times when it takes exactly 12 hours for a morale drop on the 250 monster, and 48 hours for a morale drop on the 1240 monster. Frequently, however, there is a slight delay, maybe 1 to 4 minutes on the 250 monster. The delay on the 1240 monster has been the sum of the delays for the 250 monster over the same time period, plus frequently a little more. At last check, the morale drain rate for the 1240 monster was almost 4.01x instead of 4x.
So, my guess is that the morale drain rate starts changing after 250, and it's supposed to increase by a factor of 1 every 330 levels (although it's probably capped), but whatever is causing the slight lag makes the drain rate increase a little better. I can't be positive without knowing what causes the inconsistency, but it's close enough for me.
The hypothesis you worked on (and I concurred, back then when we discussed it) was that (in ontrast to what is/was written in Wiki) the drain is constant (i.e. x1) until 250, and then started to decrease linearly up to 2250. I think this can be said to have been definitely proved now. The second hypothesis was that, instead of having the 250-2250 range divided in 5 interval of 400 each (giving a final factor of x6 @2250), it is instead divided (erroneously?) in 6 interval; each one should then be large 333.333.... for a final x7 drain rate slowing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (Someone with both a PL2250 and a PL<250 monster could easily verify which is which, btw). If you want a x4 drain to test, you should give your monster a PL = (333.333 * 3) + 250 => 1250 instead of 1240. This said, @PL 1240 you should see something like x3.99 instead of x4, so the discrepance is even a bit more off (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I can only assume that some (a lot, actually) optimizations had to be made in the code that calculates the drain rate (for ALL the monsters in the database ! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) ). And the discrepancies are just the total effect of the introduced errors/roundings for the sake of processing speed.
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Sep 1 2019, 17:45
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Fudo Masamune
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Joined: 2-February 10

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woa a full set.
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Sep 2 2019, 18:56
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Noni
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Joined: 19-February 16

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dude... an experimental auction? What do you say, should we pin this? I don't think so, but I am almost always wrong.
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