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post Aug 5 2019, 08:04
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Precursor Artifacts and HGC just ticking down, down, down.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Aug 6 2019, 03:56
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How do I stop being poor and irish?
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post Aug 6 2019, 07:49
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How do I stop being poor and irish?

stop drinking guiness?
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post Aug 6 2019, 11:25
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 6 2019, 07:49) *

stop drinking guiness?
Does this mean i am irish everytime i drink a guiness? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Aug 6 2019, 14:29
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 6 2019, 11:25) *

Does this mean i am irish everytime i drink a guiness? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


It just means you're poorer, each time you drink a guinness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 6 2019, 14:40
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So when am i irish then? I also like to eat black angus meat, does this make me scottish? I am so confused. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 6 2019, 15:17
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 6 2019, 14:40) *

So when am i irish then? I also like to eat black angus meat, does this make me scottish? I am so confused. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Eating black angus meat, also makes you poorer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If you want to be scottish, thou', all you have to do is to take off your trousers, drop your dirty pantsu, and let the fresh air sooth your delicate sackballs' skin under your kilt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 6 2019, 15:29
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Aug 6 2019, 15:17) *

Eating black angus meat, also makes you poorer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
You mean because a single rissole made of angus cost me more as a whole Big Mac? Yeah, you could be right, but on the other hand it taste better. So i dont feel poorer but happier.
QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Aug 6 2019, 15:17) *

If you want to be scottish, thou', all you have to do is to take off your trousers, drop your dirty pantsu, and let the fresh air sooth your delicate sackballs' skin under your kilt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
But i cant go naked righht now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) There are just not enough women to watch me doing it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

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post Aug 8 2019, 17:42
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Observation.
The more I level up, the bigger the gap between the damage I take from physical attacks and those I take from magical attacks as Power 1H.
It's quite logical, since the individual crushing/slashing/piercing mitigation scale up with not only the armor's level, but also the heavy proficiency. While I do have some elemental mitigation from the armor as well, but one part of it is fixed (potencies) and there is no scaling ability for that.
I have reached a point where physical attacks tickle me even at FridayFest 1000, while magical attacks hurt really bad.

I'm starting to think that while 4 Protection + 1 Warding, or 3+2 are quite recommended at Lvl 300, at a very high level one should be geared with more Warding than Protection.

Thoughts?
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post Aug 8 2019, 18:47
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 8 2019, 18:42) *

Observation.
The more I level up, the bigger the gap between the damage I take from physical attacks and those I take from magical attacks as Power 1H.
It's quite logical, since the individual crushing/slashing/piercing mitigation scale up with not only the armor's level, but also the heavy proficiency. While I do have some elemental mitigation frox

I'm starting to think that while 4 Protection + 1 Warding, or 3+2 are quite recommended at Lvl 300, at a very high level one should be geared with more Warding than Protection.

Thoughts?

I personally was thinking of pestering you about calculating what is the distribution of damage types from that monster database you have. To see what percentage of damage types can you expect and thus what armor type is more valuable than others.
I'm bad at spreadsheets though so I just brute forced the lvl2250 monsters and the results were inconsistent with the damage I've taken because I do not face only 2250. So I decided there's too many variables and whatnot and scrapped it. I had no idea how to calculate how many special attacks do monsters use compared to melee and so on.

Anyway, relevant to your question might be that monster appearances at your level might be different than at ~lvl300. Even though I see a lot of lvl2250, they sometimes go down to 1500. This might imply less chaos tokens, less stats, maybe less special attacks used because of it. Maybe you face more 2250s and thus it's not just the heavy armor that scaled badly. Maybe monsters use more special attacks at higher levels? That still implies more warding as an answer though.
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post Aug 8 2019, 19:09
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QUOTE(mega-wifeacc @ Aug 8 2019, 18:47) *

To see what percentage of damage types can you expect and thus what armor type is more valuable than others.

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Well when you actually want to know what damage "does" hit you it is imo much more helpfull to look at something like a full PFest. These is the data from a full Pfest with 85.5% PM and 85.5% MM. And no, these numbers dont actually tell you what is actually dangerous and so wouldnt a look into the database.
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post Aug 8 2019, 19:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 8 2019, 20:09) *

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Well when you actually want to know what damage "does" hit you it is imo much more helpfull to look at something like a full PFest. These is the data from a full Pfest with 85.5% PM and 85.5% MM. And no, these numbers dont actually tell you what is actually dangerous and so wouldnt a look into the database.

I was thinking more of [hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com/
What type of damage is seen how many times and thus what type of mitigation is more useful than others. Mostly out of curiosity, game applications are likely minimal.
For example you can see that physical elemental attacks are rare (and it is corroborated by your screenshot). Those types of things were curious to me.

But your screenshot is pretty cool. 1000 rounds of PFFest is a good sample size by itself plus I haven't played one so the big numbers are interesting to see. Mind posting a screenshot of your mitigations?
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post Aug 8 2019, 19:34
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Well, i actually wanted to wait until i get my next increase in block, but fine, why not?
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post Aug 8 2019, 19:41
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 8 2019, 20:34) *

Well, i actually wanted to wait until i get my next increase in block, but fine, why not?

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) thanks

I mean, I would be embarassed too to post stats if i had ONLY 69% block.

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post Aug 8 2019, 22:22
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QUOTE(mega-wifeacc @ Aug 8 2019, 19:41) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) thanks

I mean, I would be embarassed too to post stats if i had ONLY 69% block.

Hm? I wasnt talking about embarassement, i was talking about improvement. I mean i made multiple post with my stats. And right now, the only actuall way for me to increase my block is with prof, but because that only happens every 10.00 prof for +0.25 that can take a while.
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post Aug 8 2019, 22:41
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 8 2019, 23:22) *

Hm? I wasnt talking about embarassement, i was talking about improvement. I mean i made multiple post with my stats. And right now, the only actuall way for me to increase my block is with prof, but because that only happens every 10.00 prof for +0.25 that can take a while.

I was joking. 69% block is massive for someone of my level to see. It seems ridiculously much (especially when you think about it - you block more than two thirds of all attacks and that's not even counting all other mitigations and parrying). No easy way to send nuances over the Internet so I'm sorry if it came out rude. Wasn't supposed to be.
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post Aug 8 2019, 23:03
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Oh, i am sorry, i am a bit distracted by RL, so the thought been a joke never occurred to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) And i personally i think that block is okay for a level 500 player. I mean i still dont have a peerl force shield. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yeah, i know but an uncle can dream, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) But your assumption about the effectiveness misses a few important points. Number one is, that evades comes allways first. So only with a block chance of zero really all attacks will have a chance to get blocked. And number two is that most if not all monster i encounter have some tokens into Precision, which reduces my block. So 69% does look really good, but it is not the actual chance i have to block a monster attack. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Also a chance is not equal to the outcome, because a chance is not a guarantee. I mean who doesnt know games who play with chances and you miss multiple times in a fow with a near 100% chance, or hit with a really low chance? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 8 2019, 23:18
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 9 2019, 00:03) *

Oh, i am sorry, i am a bit distracted by RL, so the thought been a joke never occurred to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) And i personally i think that block is okay for a level 500 player. I mean i still dont have a peerl force shield. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yeah, i know but an uncle can dream, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) But your assumption about the effectiveness misses a few important points. Number one is, that evades comes allways first. So only with a block chance of zero really all attacks will have a chance to get blocked. And number two is that most if not all monster i encounter have some tokens into Precision, which reduces my block. So 69% does look really good, but it is not the actual chance i have to block a monster attack. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Also a chance is not equal to the outcome, because a chance is not a guarantee. I mean who doesnt know games who play with chances and you miss multiple times in a fow with a near 100% chance, or hit with a really low chance? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yeah it's true. And about the last thing you said - that's likely the reason why there are situations where no matter how easy something looks when grinding -> all of a sudden your spark is down! Probably happens when several monsters at the same time forget about averages and roll high on everything.
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post Aug 8 2019, 23:35
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Well, that is not the whole truth. When you actually upgrade your equipment, you will quite soon reach a point when no arena can still kill you -well unless you forget to recast regen and you die the death of a thousand stitches (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) - and the point the same been true for IW is not that far after that. And no, you dont need even a single peerl for that to be true. When you reach 500 and have fully forged your whole set, the only thing that can still actually kill you would be a PFest. And even that could easy be avoided when you are not as stubborn as a certain uncle and just use SoL and haste and shadow veil in the last 200 rounds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 8 2019, 23:53
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In fact I was having problems with the opposite, that is, from level 301, the enemies began to be alive after several strokes of my weapon, and the most ridiculous thing was that this happened when they only had something like 50 points of life, what is worse, I had to attack them 3 times to die, taking away valuable movements.

It has more than about 2 weeks that did not lower the difficulty to play more at ease, I was in Nintendo difficulty, and it took almost nothing to complete the last 3 challenges of the arena with dual welding fighting style, but only pass from level 301 , what I already mentioned began to happen to me.

I have no more solution, but soul fuse with one of my weapons to have more attack. And that solved the problem.

But it seems to me abysmal, the difference that there is of change of difficulty from a single level to another. If I knew that I would have to change weapons at some point, but I didn't think that the change would be so sudden.

Quick question, when you soul fuse a weapon, is it only for one person, or is it for all the person's you have created?
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