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post May 18 2011, 00:11
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Maybe It's the loss of Rating and not the Elemental nerfed?
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post May 18 2011, 00:17
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ May 17 2011, 15:59) *

That is why I liked to use a full Elemental setup when doing BT and IWBTH. The damage increase to all my elemental spells was good but it was never what you could get by going with a EDB setup. Less damage to all spells was of more use then just doing great damage to one spell. Now with the same setup the damage is a joke. You've increased the max EDB if you can find it, but why nerf elemental gear damage so much?

The future of proficiency gear looks bleak. But according to the patch notes it wasn't nerfed. It still affects damage in the same way. More precisely:

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Proficiency still affects proc chances as before, and magical proficiencies have not been changed.

It's probably the loss of rating..

But I'm expecting some unfair change in proficiency equip. Like one of those base max increases to screw even my last decent phase. Would be even worse since proficiency phase doesn't drop any longer.
Maybe we're lucky and he increases the scaling factor though. Or how and what elementalist affects.
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post May 18 2011, 01:22
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I feel like I've been dodging the worst of these nerfs by the skin of my teeth each and every time. With the 0.5.2 changes, I went from one-shot clears on hard back to one-shot clears on normal with my destruction staff. With the 0.5.3 changes, I manage to barely hang on being able to one-shot (kinda) with arcane focus, but still getting more bruises thanks to big losses on my magic hit-chance.

Either way, I'm probably on my last straw. If Tenboro introduces another nerf with 0.5.4, I just might have to do something drastic and crazy. Like switch over to melee.
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post May 18 2011, 01:44
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I switched to melee today and it kinda sucked. I almost forgot how to do it.
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post May 18 2011, 02:13
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ May 17 2011, 13:02) *

is the wiki just trolling tenboro?

Yes.
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post May 18 2011, 02:45
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I decided to play with some numbers using a fictional user (Hell if Tenboro can use magnificent so I can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) using the max know stats at conquest thread.
Here's some data,
Before patch:
l300, 300 staff/cloth/elemental proficiency, 300 supportive (giving +22% MDM of AF), 45% rating,+10% MDM from aura, +10% from Godslayer, and finally a destruction staff + full EDB gear (max elemental proficiency, EDB, MDM)
MAX power multiplier:18.57x

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l300, 300 staff(+15%MDM)/elemental proficiency, 300 supportive (giving +22% MDM of AF),+10% MDM from aura, +10% from Godslayer, and finally a destruction staff + full EDB gear (max elemental proficiency, EDB(*1.5 in the armor), MDM)
MAX power multiplier:16.55x

So there's a loss of ~12.2% in power.

But what if the proficiency rules didn't change (All gear with stats 30% bigger, and -15% MDM)
MAX power multiplier:: 20.59x

Lol he would gain ~10.9% power instead (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post May 18 2011, 03:05
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I switched back to mage. I like my Magnificent staffs too much.

Oh, and I actually got a maze today in the arena that was slightly difficult. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post May 18 2011, 11:31
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Longest you've gone without triggering puzzle.
> 160 rounds + whatever # of rounds I did yesterday since my last puzzle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post May 18 2011, 12:29
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Is it just me or the odds of meeting a custom monster in arenas have been significantly reduced ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post May 18 2011, 17:10
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I just noticed the new(?) desciptions on the infusions. Nice.
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post May 18 2011, 18:29
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I am just shocked when i see Frith's phase robe of owl.
If that's a phase robe of fox it will have ridiculously high INT.
I have to change my expectation on fox phases...
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post May 18 2011, 18:43
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QUOTE(varst @ May 18 2011, 17:29) *

I am just shocked when i see Frith's phase robe of owl.
If that's a phase robe of fox it will have ridiculously high INT.
I have to change my expectation on fox phases...


I've been surprised by the Phase stuff myself. I had a Fair Phase Cap of Mjolnir yesterday and I think it had an EDB of something like 28. I can't find the link because I swapped it for 600 crystals so neet132435 has it now.
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post May 18 2011, 18:55
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QUOTE(Frith @ May 19 2011, 00:43) *

I've been surprised by the Phase stuff myself. I had a Fair Phase Cap of Mjolnir yesterday and I think it had an EDB of something like 28. I can't find the link because I swapped it for 600 crystals so neet132435 has it now.


If you remember correctly, then that phase cap may have almost max EDB right now.
It just seems to me that going into a particular element is doomed after the recent patches.
I need to try creatively to solve this problem.
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post May 18 2011, 20:10
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Mix and match maybe, 3 EDB pieces for maximizing first strike damage and 2 elementalist/fox pieces for clean-up. Then again I only play on hard X(
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post May 19 2011, 06:30
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QUOTE(sheng9632 @ May 19 2011, 12:17) *

He wanted my recipe for banana nut bread and I finally gave in.


Would you mind not spamming here?

Spamming should go here instead
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post May 19 2011, 14:00
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Which are the crystals of divinity?
Devotion?
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post May 19 2011, 17:14
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ May 19 2011, 14:00) *

Which are the crystals of divinity?
Devotion?

yes.

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1 4 You have been defeated.
1 3 Claws crits you for 6651 slashing damage.
1 2 Liselotte Werckmeister uses Claws
1 1 You hit Liselotte Werckmeister for 535 crushing damage.
0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=316 HP=5786 MP=217 SP=33 NA=121 Type=hostile...

Skill use in Turn 1? Not fair! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

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post May 19 2011, 21:49
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Any reason I didn't get New Dawn event today? (Only random battles.)
Last one was
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What am I'm missing? I've been ignoring new dawn for hundreds of levels, and I don't care about 500 C, but I do care about my hath. So, what's wrong with it? Help me please. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post May 19 2011, 22:03
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ May 19 2011, 21:49) *

Any reason I didn't get New Dawn event today? (Only random battles.)
Last one was
What am I'm missing? I've been ignoring new dawn for hundreds of levels, and I don't care about 500 C, but I do care about my hath. So, what's wrong with it? Help me please. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

hath doesnt show up in the user control panel, but you will get the hath though.

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post May 19 2011, 22:08
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ May 19 2011, 14:03) *

hath doesnt show up in the user control panel, but you will get the hath though.

Yeah I know that. But I didn't get the new dawn event. At all. You know.. that message.. journey, new dawn, +500 credits, +1 hath.
Didn't see it today. Only random monster battles.
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