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post May 17 2011, 13:06
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QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ May 17 2011, 18:56) *

You don't need to get a full set of / + ratings nerfed to waste time/money/passion.

Anyone can do it. Just play the HentaiVerse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



i don't understand you do you means mage must stop to collect EDB gear or if you want it you must take risk ?

you can gain power by your hard work but some day you will be lose all about it ?

i think all of mage people would like to wearing a decent phase gear to play HV game.

is this a wrong thought ?
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post May 17 2011, 13:12
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QUOTE(teeeen @ May 17 2011, 12:47) *
new EDB gear is much powerful beyond my imagination whatever that rating is removal it's still deadly


Keep in mind that to obtain a high EDB you have to focus on a single element, and with the new monsters, many have high resistance to one or more elements.
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post May 17 2011, 13:48
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2011, 19:12) *

Keep in mind that to obtain a high EDB you have to focus on a single element, and with the new monsters, many have high resistance to one or more elements.



it must be have high resistance if not that's mage true invincibility

but i still confused

cut off the element rating but rise up new EDB gear

in fact i feel nothing changed except player's equipment get shrink

between old and new phase gear has a power faultage

to fix this faultage it's actually drive people to find new gear

if things go like this my misgiving come true ... ...



i have no malice HV is great game

i like it but just saw a player give up with play HV game , he gone but left a lot of cogitation to us

when we have to change something really matter shall we get some buffer zone





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post May 17 2011, 14:13
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QUOTE(teeeen @ May 17 2011, 13:48) *
cut off the element rating but rise up new EDB gear


The ER change was mostly grounded in that part of the system being confusing and inconsistent compared to the newer additions, but it's important to note that with ER you could get +30% to *all* elements, while with EDB you would typically want to focus on a single one.
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post May 17 2011, 14:40
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2011, 12:12) *

Keep in mind that to obtain a high EDB you have to focus on a single element, and with the new monsters, many have high resistance to one or more elements.
Speaking of which, why didn't you create a suffix giving both holy and dark proficiency bonuses? It could give at same time negative EPB as well. I mean sure we can choose between elemental proficiency and elec dmg bonus to change our playing style, but there's no difference (other than getting raw power) between heaven-sent and heimdall per example.
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post May 17 2011, 14:42
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2011, 20:13) *

The ER change was mostly grounded in that part of the system being confusing and inconsistent compared to the newer additions, but it's important to note that with ER you could get +30% to *all* elements, while with EDB you would typically want to focus on a single one.



if i understood it correctly (sorry my poor english)

do you means

cut off the ER is prevent a player have "ALL ER" overly large

with new custom monster compound resistance the single element is weak than "ALL ER" so cut it ?

is that true ? does single element really weak than "ALL ER" ?

in my experience single is powerful than "all ER"

and was the custom monsters have some coerce classification about show up in battlefield ?

i ask this because i can factitiousness focus to create monsters have there own weakness

example :

fire mage create UNDEAD

elec mage create Mechanoid

between these two kinds of monster they are ambivalent with resistance ( is this the intrinsic balance point of mage ?)

that is the reason i think single element powerful than "ALL ER"

if 100 monster 75 Mechanoid and 20 UNDEAD 5 other that make single elec powerful than others

through reduce all ER is totally wrong on the contrary the single type will be formidable no equal
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post May 17 2011, 15:12
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2011, 15:43) *

Mathematically insignificant. The point being, while such a set pretty much maxes *all* stats, it would be quite possible to find a full set with high physical mitigations at the expense of other stats.



What are these "other stats" you talking about?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Physical mitigations is the only thing Heavy has! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


That's why I say to boost the specific mit (Cr/Sl/Pc) on Heavy and/or the bonus you get from those suffix... At least you could think ... "Hey, lets have higher Slash mit at the expense of Pierce mit" while still get a decent overall defense.


And the lock-out requirement that need you to wear full Heavy to get the much needed bonuses made the whole situation worst! Wearing 1 Light make the whole setup crumble to the ground... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post May 17 2011, 15:46
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QUOTE(buktore @ May 17 2011, 15:12) *
What are these "other stats" you talking about?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Physical mitigations is the only thing Heavy has! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Huh? I'm saying that gear with close to max physical mitigation is much more common than magnificent gear.
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post May 17 2011, 16:13
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Just for confirmation or something, does my silk fleet have less evade than they did before? I could swear I had mostly 5+evades (for my level) -Vakuen
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post May 17 2011, 16:13
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2011, 20:46) *

Huh? I'm saying that gear with close to max physical mitigation is much more common than magnificent gear.



It's also a better idea to use, and probably easier to find, other kind of armor that have effectively the same, or even more defense than the said Non-Magnificent-Heavy without the huge drawback that come with it...

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post May 17 2011, 16:16
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Oh my, someone just dumped +2000 devotion and quintessence crystals at bazzar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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post May 17 2011, 16:39
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 17 2011, 22:16) *

Oh my, someone just dumped +2000 devotion and quintessence crystals at bazzar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


Well....considering nobody's buying these crystals right now....
Bazaar maybe the only choice if he want some quick money
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post May 17 2011, 16:43
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QUOTE(varst @ May 17 2011, 15:39) *

Well....considering nobody's buying these crystals right now....
Bazaar maybe the only choice if he want some quick money
But at 2c each, he must had been desperate for just to get +6000c....
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post May 17 2011, 16:46
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 17 2011, 22:43) *

But at 2c each, he must had been desperate for just to get +6000c....


And someone has bought ALL OF THEM!? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
That's 300,000 credits!
Who's so desperate for those devotion and quintessence crystals? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Edit: And i think that's 3c each, so the seller gets 9000 credits, and snowflake earns 291,000...

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post May 17 2011, 16:59
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It's amazing how many people are watching the bazaar at any given time. I also saw the devotion crystals and they were gone about ten seconds later.

Just who the hell is selling this stuff for 3c?! I would have paid 100k for them and it seems somebody else is happy to pay 180K, yet they just sold them for about 7.5K. Fools!
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post May 17 2011, 17:00
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And someone has bought ALL OF THEM!?



Most high LV. player has more money than Warren Buffett.
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post May 17 2011, 17:00
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QUOTE(Frith @ May 17 2011, 16:59) *

It's amazing how many people are watching the bazaar at any given time. I also saw the devotion crystals and they were gone about ten seconds later.

Just who the hell is selling this stuff for 3c?! I would have paid 100k for them and it seems somebody else is happy to pay 180K, yet they just sold them for about 7.5K. Fools!

You actually assume everyone read forums.
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post May 17 2011, 17:03
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Actually it was 12k, it was 4000 crystals in total lol
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QUOTE(buktore @ May 17 2011, 23:00) *

Most high LV. player has more money than Warren Buffett.


You mean in credits or US dollar? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


QUOTE(cmdct @ May 17 2011, 23:03) *

Actually it was 12k, it was 4000 crystals in total lol


See, i was THAT shocked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 17 2011, 18:31
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Hmm... The ADM boost sure have a side effect on Bleed weapon, since it's not boost as well..

But that's a good thing, I guess... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I have a feelings people relied on bleed too much for sometime now. Rapier use to be something people use to excite about when they got it. For sometime now, it had slowly become just another piece of shit in people's mind before I even know it. And I actually began to agreed with their view...

This change my thinking, though!

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2 3 Apathetic Canuck has been defeated.
2 2 Your offhand hits Apathetic Canuck for 1194 piercing damage.
2 1 You hit Apathetic Canuck for 3151 soul damage.
1 4 Apathetic Canuck gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
1 3 Your offhand hits Apathetic Canuck for 1165 piercing damage.
1 2 You crit Apathetic Canuck for 2929 soul damage.
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=15 (Apathetic Canuck) LV=138 HP=8190 MP=92 SP=61 NA=171 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #19 (Round 18 / 30) ...
0 0 Battle Start!



I might have to start LV. my Rapier again! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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