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post Apr 18 2019, 00:46
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Rough estimates of efficiency of crystal upgrades for morale regeneration:

- Happy Pill valued @1000c
- Crystal valued @ 2c, regardless of PAB/Elemental

a. Extra Strength Formula X

Happy pill = 6 morale/credit

PAB lv5->6: 6.6 morale/credit
PAB lv6->7: 4.3 morale/credit

Elemental lv 15->16: 5.9 morale/credit
Elemental lv 16->17: 4.7 morale/credit


Level up to 285 without Happy Pill for max efficiency
394000 morale restored along the way



b. Extra Strength Formula O

Happy pill = 12 morale/credit

PAB lv3->4: 13.3 morale/credit
PAB lv4->5: 8.5 morale/credit

Elemental lv 12->13: 11.9 morale/credit
Elemental lv 13->14: 9.4 morale/credit


Level up to 186 without Happy Pill for max efficiency
256000 morale restored along the way


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post Apr 18 2019, 01:09
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 18 2019, 00:46) *

Rough estimates of efficiency of crystal upgrades for morale regeneration:

- Happy Pill valued @1000c
- Crystal valued @ 2c, regardless of PAB/Elemental

a. Extra Strength Formula X

Happy pill = 6 morale/credit

PAB lv5->6: 6.6 morale/credit
PAB lv6->7: 4.3 morale/credit

Elemental lv 15->16: 5.9 morale/credit
Elemental lv 16->17: 4.7 morale/credit
Level up to 285 without Happy Pill for max efficiency
394000 morale restored along the way

b. Extra Strength Formula O

Happy pill = 12 morale/credit

PAB lv3->4: 13.3 morale/credit
PAB lv4->5: 8.5 morale/credit

Elemental lv 12->13: 11.9 morale/credit
Elemental lv 13->14: 9.4 morale/credit
Level up to 186 without Happy Pill for max efficiency
256000 morale restored along the way



So, efficiency (with the pill perk) is PL 186 with +4 on Pabs and +12 on resistances, right?
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post Apr 18 2019, 01:27
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Apr 17 2019, 19:09) *

So, efficiency (with the pill perk) is PL 186 with +4 on Pabs and +12 on resistances, right?


+4 on PABs and +13 on Resistances with the perk,
+6 on PABs and +16 on Resistances with the perk.

15->16 and 12->13 give like 0.1 less morale/credit based on my calculation, but I neglected it since 0.1 difference is more or less within the error range. (i.e. happy pills may cost more than 1k, crystals less than 2c)
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post Apr 18 2019, 12:41
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Every day I want to make the leap and swap to Mage, but I feel like I'm just gonna blow all my money on equipment and not know what to do
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post Apr 18 2019, 13:10
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QUOTE(Kross25 @ Apr 18 2019, 13:41) *

Every day I want to make the leap and swap to Mage, but I feel like I'm just gonna blow all my money on equipment and not know what to do


Every set is a hassle to collect, but considerably better clear time for arena is relatably easily achieved with ~10m budget

Start by looking for the easiest element for you (mb you have some equipment or prof?), get nice staff and look for charged or radiant pieces.

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post Apr 18 2019, 14:53
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QUOTE(Kross25 @ Apr 18 2019, 12:41) *
Every day I want to make the leap and swap to Mage, but I feel like I'm just gonna blow all my money on equipment and not know what to do

Monsterbation is already designed with mage play style in mind. Press 1-2-3, then hover your spell of choice.
I run this regex "charged[\w\s]+(freyr|elementalist)" on WTS every other day. It's not like I have the credit, but it gives me idea from which level mage play started to open up. It's 400. No secret. The gears are almost all lvl 500.
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post Apr 18 2019, 15:34
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 18 2019, 12:53) *

Monsterbation is already designed with mage play style in mind. Press 1-2-3, then hover your spell of choice.

It's a sure-fire way to die. That's called Imperil to death.
However cautious you can be, there will always be a moment when you get carried away and press the keys too fast.
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post Apr 18 2019, 18:39
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>Account is in safety lockdown due to an email or password change - lockdown is lifted in 21 hours

Can't check mooglemail/shrine/exchanges for a full day, fuck... At least I can still do battles
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post Apr 18 2019, 19:08
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QUOTE(Kross25 @ Apr 18 2019, 18:39) *

>Account is in safety lockdown due to an email or password change - lockdown is lifted in 21 hours

Can't check mooglemail/shrine/exchanges for a full day, fuck... At least I can still do battles

you can? I thought that account lockdown also affected HV. I did not know that!
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post Apr 18 2019, 19:10
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 18 2019, 19:08) *

you can? I thought that account lockdown also affected HV. I did not know that!

Nope, you can battle just fine. But believe me, getting an MM during lockdown is nothing but torture. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 18 2019, 20:31
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 18 2019, 19:08) *

you can? I thought that account lockdown also affected HV. I did not know that!

Yes you can.
You can't use anything related to exchanging mail/items with other players.
Anything else is okay.
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post Apr 18 2019, 20:57
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QUOTE(Kross25 @ Apr 18 2019, 13:41) *

Every day I want to make the leap and swap to Mage, but I feel like I'm just gonna blow all my money on equipment and not know what to do

You can try 1h-mage style. Its very cheap, its very safe and you can get idea what it is to play imperil mage. With 1-2 millions credits set (+ small bonuses from perks) i could finish PFfest in 90 minutes (no scrolls or anything like that). For sure full mage can do that faster, but with completely different budget. You can spend like 100-300k to get some basic stuff and look how it goes.
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post Apr 19 2019, 00:53
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but is there anyone who can help me bid on one of the auctions? I won't be able to stay until the end since I'll be busy with work.

Please PM/MM me if someone can, thanks.
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post Apr 19 2019, 13:16
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dark/holy mage guys, do you feel the need to keep on suffused aether all the time?

One thing I dislike about my transition from elec to dark is significantly bigger mana consumption. The only place I do not need mana conservation consistently is SG arenas and that's it. For normal arenas, if I don't get enough mana gems I have to pop an elixir lmao...
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post Apr 19 2019, 13:23
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 19 2019, 13:16) *

dark/holy mage guys, do you feel the need to keep on suffused aether all the time?

yup
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post Apr 19 2019, 13:32
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 19 2019, 07:23) *

yup


lol that was fast. Thx! Sometimes I try to be clever and not use it on arenas, but guess I should just use it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Next time I might want to keep track of number of mana potions I use for daily arena to get the effective cost of aether shard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 19 2019, 13:54
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 19 2019, 14:16) *

dark/holy mage guys, do you feel the need to keep on suffused aether all the time?


It isn't a necessity, but it helps and it's cheap enough if you'll play all that hour (I still use my stock though) and don't forget about featherweight

QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 19 2019, 14:16) *

One thing I dislike about my transition from elec to dark is significantly bigger mana consumption. The only place I do not need mana conservation consistently is SG arenas and that's it. For normal arenas, if I don't get enough mana gems I have to pop an elixir lmao...


Relying on gems and elixirs is a bad sign, do you heal too much or use potions too late?
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post Apr 19 2019, 14:02
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For my part I need both and I don't like that.
That's a major reason why I'm going to play 3+2 instead of 4+1: the higher prof will lower the cost of Ragnarok, on top of being able to brute force non-imperiled monsters.
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post Apr 19 2019, 14:08
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Apr 19 2019, 07:54) *

It isn't a necessity, but it helps and it's cheap enough if you'll play all that hour (I still use my stock though) and don't forget about featherweight
Relying on gems and elixirs is a bad sign, do you heal too much or use potions too late?


Oh I don't use health elixirs lol at least for arenas, no. I meant I needed mana elixirs because even if I use mana potions and draughts on every cooldown, mana seems to dry out around round 60, so by then I need to either have had some mana gems. or gotta use elixir to replenish mana. Sometimes I leave one monster and spank it with staff for mana potion cooldown lmao.

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For my part I need both and I don't like that.
That's a major reason why I'm going to play 3+2 instead of 4+1: the higher prof will lower the cost of Ragnarok, on top of being able to brute force non-imperiled monsters.


Huh, how do you pull off 1.7k turns with 3+2? O_o What's your magic score?
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post Apr 19 2019, 14:28
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 19 2019, 15:08) *

Oh I don't use health elixirs lol at least for arenas, no. I meant I needed mana elixirs because even if I use mana potions and draughts on every cooldown, mana seems to dry out around round 60, so by then I need to either have had some mana gems. or gotta use elixir to replenish mana. Sometimes I leave one monster and spank it with staff for mana potion cooldown lmao.


I guess leveling up really helps (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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