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post Apr 17 2019, 03:56
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There is no physical choice in potencies other than juggernaut. It's not a well trade-off.
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post Apr 17 2019, 04:22
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 17 2019, 03:38) *

but really, i know melees get the most damage from magical attacks, especially holy damage, but is it such a big amount to want the mitigations?
It is not actually worth all those shards i do use on a single item if you want to know it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Apr 17 2019, 04:41
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 16 2019, 22:38) *

now that i'm writing this, then shouldn't you had wanted to go for warding pieces instead of protections? or is there something i ain't seeing?


Would not that be because there was a study that said 80% of the damage was physical and 20% magical? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I do not remember where that was. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I think it was sssss2 that posted.
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post Apr 17 2019, 07:58
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Apr 17 2019, 03:41) *

Would not that be because there was a study that said 80% of the damage was physical and 20% magical? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I do not remember where that was. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I think it was sssss2 that posted.


Yes, by far the majority of the damage taken is still physical - but some of the most dangerous attacks you'll take with large amounts of damage in one hit are magical, and those are likely to be the ones that spark you.

At least... that's what I've heard. My personal experience has been that it's just general damage at the start of a round that sparks me, so the most general-purpose mitigation scenarios count for me.

(Also, it was pointed out to me last time... physical attacks can still have elemental + holy/dark types - a celestial could do a physical holy for its 2nd and 3rd skills, for example)
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post Apr 17 2019, 08:14
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 17 2019, 01:38) *

but really, i know melees get the most damage from magical attacks, especially holy damage, but is it such a big amount to want the mitigations? you play even without spark, i picture high end melee players as a wall of bricks
now that i'm writing this, then shouldn't you had wanted to go for warding pieces instead of protections? or is there something i ain't seeing?

I am a wall of bricks that still gets sparked sometimes during PFFEST.

The issue with mitigating magical attacks, is that chosing to mitigate them better is done at the cost of not mitigating the wimpy physical attacks just as well.
If you don't mitigate magical attacks enough, your spirit shield takes a slap in the face and SoL triggers often.
If you don't mitigate physical attacks enough, your HP will be chipped away and you'll need to heal often.

I've tried both the 4P+1W and 3P+2W setups. Altough they're both viable, you'll certainly feel the difference: the 3+2 is safer regarding magical attacks, but you'll need to heal regularly. The 4+1 needs you to heal less often, but spirit draughts are needed to keep up as the spirit shield is almost alone to protect you from the magical attacks.

So overall, the suffixes alone actually aren't enough to protect a player decently. Having elemental prefixes helps a bit, especially when they're high enough. Ask the Celestials what they think about my 69.4% mitigation against holy.
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post Apr 17 2019, 11:22
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 17 2019, 00:14) *

Ask the Celestials what they think about my 69.4% mitigation against holy.

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post Apr 17 2019, 19:54
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post Apr 17 2019, 20:23
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These easter button drops keep dodging me, I got a not soulfused legendary (90 rounds per run) to IW7 and I still didn't get one drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Apr 17 2019, 20:36
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Apr 17 2019, 18:23) *

These easter button drops keep dodging me, I got a not soulfused legendary (90 rounds per run) to IW7 and I still didn't get one drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

One entire PFFEST without having all the associated buttons here.
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post Apr 17 2019, 20:43
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 17 2019, 20:36) *

One entire PFFEST without having all the associated buttons here.

oml, I'm probably going to buy them if that's the case (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 17 2019, 20:51
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to me it's the western and asian porn buttons the ones that are elusive
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post Apr 17 2019, 20:55
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Apr 17 2019, 20:23) *

These easter button drops keep dodging me, I got a not soulfused legendary (90 rounds per run) to IW7 and I still didn't get one drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


yeah I think they are much rarer in Item world... but also grindfest is sometimes annoying, I usually do 500 rounds and 2 times now I got only 1 and once I got 0
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post Apr 17 2019, 21:19
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By simply IWing my staff I got already more than 40 buttons for each type...
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post Apr 17 2019, 21:47
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Apr 18 2019, 03:19) *

By simply IWing my staff I got already more than 40 buttons for each type...

simliar situation
I got four j5 IW on 100-round-shade to finish.
Are u doing IW with your melee set? If that's the case, your mentality is quite strong.
It takes on average 150 shards to do a P5+S4
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post Apr 17 2019, 22:04
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Apr 17 2019, 15:47) *

simliar situation
I got four j5 IW on 100-round-shade to finish.
Are u doing IW with your melee set? If that's the case, your mentality is quite strong.
It takes on average 150 shards to do a P5+S4


I'm starting to build a cheap mag mage set but with my very limited budget, I don't think I can make them work on IW.

Yap. I'm doing everything with my melee set.

At least with my minimal forge, it isn't extremely slow. If I can get a good rapier maybe it'll become 'fast'.

I do sometimes play with my physical damage mage but it is too much of a hassle when it comes to PFUDOR IW.

103 shards used so far.

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post Apr 17 2019, 22:29
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Apr 17 2019, 16:19) *

By simply IWing my staff I got already more than 40 buttons for each type...


This is called excessive luck. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

In my case the RNG is pretty crazy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Arena
Monday: 774 rounds -> 4 buttons (I had done some arenas before the event started)
Tuesday: 1264 rounds -> 21 buttons
Wednesday: 1264 rounds -> 10 buttons

Item World
Monday: 900 rounds -> 2 buttons (9 x 100 rounds / all PFUDOR)
Tuesday: 900 rounds -> 5 buttons (9 x 100 rounds / all PFUDOR)
Wednesday: 530 rounds -> 8 buttons (10 x 53 rounds / 2 Nintendo, 1 IWBTH, 7 PFUDOR)

GrindFest
Since I have bad luck, especially with GrindFests, I decided to buy the buttons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 17 2019, 22:35
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Apr 17 2019, 16:29) *

This is called excessive luck. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


NO

It's more like excessive bad luck in IWing that staff
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post Apr 17 2019, 22:39
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Till now I get average <5 buttons from arenas/day(1252 Rounds). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Apr 17 2019, 23:35
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 17 2019, 17:35) *

NO

It's more like excessive bad luck in IWing that staff


Well, this is another point of view. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 18 2019, 00:04
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In each type, I mean the buttons from the IW.

I mean I IW a lot more than you...

and right now I'm still IWing...

(but I might overcount those that are not from the staff though)




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